Oil cooling

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Nitrowing, May 12, 2005.

  1. Nitrowing

    Nitrowing Specialist

  2. crazybowlhead420

    crazybowlhead420 Private E-2

    hmmm..i don't think i'd try that
     
  3. Omegamerc

    Omegamerc MajorGeek

  4. KoadMunki

    KoadMunki Private E-2

    the real problem would come when you wanted to change a part not? While yes, It seems to work, I can also imagine it going horribly wrong horribly fast.
     
  5. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    with the pc in oil would you keep the cpu fan on it? lol it sure does look like fun maybe i will try that with one of my old pc's i have sitting here
     
  6. goldfish

    goldfish Lt. Sushi.DC

    It's not that new, just most people don't tend to do it with desktop PCs :p
    You don't keep the fan on the CPU, you'd be better off with a pump of some sort going over the heatsink to ensure the convection is more even and you don't get patches of hot oil.

    Submersion cooling has been around since the early 80's, usually though they used totally closed systems to prevent contaminents getting into the oil and reducing the heat capacity.

    You know I might actually try this with that P2 board that I've got sitting around :D
     
  7. Xelmon

    Xelmon Private E-2

    Gotta agree with that. Rather, I would be worried when you take out a part from that. Why? Oil + dust = sticky dirt I dont know many things that can take it off... Besides high power water, which isnt quite good for your PC.
     
  8. crazybowlhead420

    crazybowlhead420 Private E-2

    u could use some brake cleaner...or alcahol to clear ur parts
     
  9. Omegamerc

    Omegamerc MajorGeek

    Alcohol, anyways, doesnt alcohol act as a catalyst in oxidation?
     
  10. crazybowlhead420

    crazybowlhead420 Private E-2

    not sure >_< lol
     
  11. goldfish

    goldfish Lt. Sushi.DC

    If can, depending on whether whatever you're reacting is soluble in alcohol. As far as I know, most things in a computer are not soluble, but I don't know.

    A degreacing compound might do it, providing it can be removed without trace once the parts are re-submerged.
     
  12. MetalNight

    MetalNight Private First Class

    could you use gatorade instead of water for a coolant,
     
  13. goldfish

    goldfish Lt. Sushi.DC

    In theory, yes.

    But your pump would get sticky, and as it heats up the sugar would caramelise inside the waterblock.

    Needless to say, it wouldn't last very long.
     
  14. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    when guys use phase change cooling,the parts they want to keep dry and safe from condensation,they spray them with this red liquid plastic stuff in a can,it sets like a plastic coating on the mobo,but can be peeled off in one peice,if you just left the heatsinks uncovered it wouldnt take that long to clean and all your ports will be kept dry. :)
     
  15. goldfish

    goldfish Lt. Sushi.DC

    Yes, thats alcohol soluble plastic... as the alcohol evapourates the solid plastic comes out of solution and sticks to the component,in much the same way solid salt is formed when you leave brine in a warm place. However, since the bonding energy and van der Waals forces are less in alcohol (or whatever the solvent is), less energy is required for evapouration to occour, therefore more evapourates therefore the plastic "sets" faster.

    Using that is certainly an idea but I wouldn't bet that the coating would be resistant to oil. A lot of plastics deteriorate when left in oil ...
     
  16. Nitrowing

    Nitrowing Specialist

    When I was working on Radar equipment we had very high voltages that would normally be insulated by air, except at high altitudes there is very little air so the boxes were filled with silicon oil. Of course when it came to servicing we had to drain it all out. We used trichloroethane to clean the parts that needed fiddling with.
    Apart from the fact that silicon oil is umm, indigestable - and trich would wack you out of your skull - it all worked fine.
     
  17. Xelmon

    Xelmon Private E-2

    Thats cool. Yeah, friend of mine told me about the mineral oil being used in high-voltage stuff, and that it conducts heat really well, aka used for cooling.
    Well, the thing about the oil is that you would have nice and shiny prongs for the rest of the time.
    BUT, what about fiberglass stuff? Surely there is some inside every computer. And as you all know, fiberglass + oil = bad
     
  18. MetalNight

    MetalNight Private First Class

    i still rekon gatorade would look kewl
     
  19. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Right then check this article out,

    http://www.phase-change.com/index.php?action=Articles_page&cat=Guides&id=25&page=2

    Theres the liquid tape"but we dont need any",spread die electric grease all over the mobo,you can even stick it in the sockets,then fit your all gizmos,fit your heatsinks with heatpaste obviously and throw it in the oil bath,the die electric grease will protect it from the oil and can be easily removed with a can of electrical cleaner and the mobo can still be RMA'd also in the same article

    I'v heard the die electric grease can be slightly capacitive I havn'tfound any thing conclusive,any ideas goldfish you probably invented it.LOL :D
     

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