Passenger Airliner shot down over Ukraine

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by LauraR, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    This are some really crazy times we are living in. :(

    I was just watching the coverage for this:

    Ukraine says Malaysian airliner shot down, 295 dead



     
  2. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

    Or not shot down. They've been talking constantly about it since it happened, taking over every channel on TV, but they have no information to report. Everyone who isn't there is looking at cell phone video and speculating, and I hate that crap. It could very well turn out it was shot down, but at this point all their talking about how it was done and who did it with no information is at best unhelpful. This is the only thing I hate about our 24/7/365 demand for news.

    If you go to other sources, it was shot down by either Ukraine, Russia, rebels, or terrorists from some branch or another of Al Queda.
     
  3. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    hmmmm....I thought it was confirmed by an official over there. That's what the channel I was watching was saying.

    I agree with you on the news. For the most part I have zero respect for the media anymore.

    I thought this was confirmed which is why I posted. Maybe not.
     
  4. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

    An official over there has reportedly confirmed it was shot down by either the Ukrainian government, the Russian air force, Ukrainian rebels, or perhaps terrorists. I suspect those are each a different official. Every channel is saying something different from each other.

    "Ukrainian officials said it may have been shot down, possibly by a Russian-made antiaircraft system."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/malaysian-airlines-jet-ukraine.html?_r=0

    "The aircraft was "shot down" over Ukraine by "terrorists" operating a Buk surface-to-air missile system, according to the Facebook page of Anton Gerashchenko, adviser to the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. There were 280 passengers killed as well as 15 crew members, Gerashchenko's post reads."
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html

    Fox News is all over the map, blaming pretty much everyone.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/17/malaysia-airlines-jet-reportedly-crashes-in-ukraine/
     
  5. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member


    Typical. :( Thanks for the heads up. Who knows when the actual truth will come out.
     
  6. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    I feel for the families of the lost and in particular one AUS woman who lost brother and sister in law in the MH370 disappearance to now loose a grandchild in the MH17 incident!

    Crazy times indeed Laura, how this one will play out is a crapshoot! Evidence to date seems to say it was a BUK missile strike so civilian plane shot down, so what side did it and if it was Pro-Russian extremists in Ukraine or Russia itself, then really don't know how USA, UK, EU, AUS, NL etc who's citizens where murdered proceed.

    Today seems that evidence is being lost and tampered with by the Pro-RUS separatists!

    This is 27/7 on UK news at present to the unfolding storyline.... could be a world changing event if its found RUS has a hand in even part of it.
     
  7. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    Indeed. This is a royal mess.

    Then somehow people were allowed to loot the area.

    Between this and what's going on between Israel and Palestine....:(
     
  8. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    I know Laura, a few issues globally that could drag in UK, USA etc into something we really should keep out of, and Israel is a difficult one for UK/USA given historical friendship.

    Russia not so much but they are a loose cannon, Putin is a nutcase! to put it mildly! Medvedev is more reasonable and sensible. The Ukrainian president was not holding punches yesterday in his address to the press.
     

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