Pc Will Not Boot Up

Discussion in 'Software' started by peterr, Jan 24, 2016.

  1. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    Hello
    Long story short;
    Power button yellow not white. I finagled the power cord to get it to boot to Macrium and recovered an image. I had gotten 2 error reports I am not including as I have another question.
    Once running I ran SFC and Dell diagnostics for hard drive, memory, etc. for 1 + 1/2 hours. All tested fine.

    If a PC cannot power up and there is nothing on the screen, will a rescue disc be an option?
    I have WinPE 10 for Win 10 but if the PC will not boot up how can you use it?
    Is there a rescue disc that will use the startup to be in it so you can work off the disc or flash drive?
    I do not understand the difference between the Macriun rescue disc and any other.
    Thank you for your help in case this happens again.
    Peter
     
  2. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    First you need to find out why the computer will not boot up. Do you need a new power supply? If nothing is appearing on the screen, do you need a new video card? Is the hard drive or the cable connecting the hard drive bad?

    To me, that is the first step, not "finagling the power cord" and restoring an image to possibly bad hardware.
     
  3. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    I knew the word finagle would catch someones eye. It is in Websters.
    How do you boot from a rescue flash drive or disc? Do you insert it and press power or what? I have a Macrium rescue flash drive made by Macrium for Win 10.
    It is WinPe - 10 which the program creates; it is useful as it boots straight into the program whether UEFI or BIOS
    Is this something I could use to boot off of in the future so I don't have to finagle. ;)
    If so, how do I do it?
    Peter
     
  4. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

    They all work on the same principle. You boot into a rescue environment, sort of like a mini-OS but one that is specially designed and that has tools designed to help you accomplish what you are attempting to accomplish. What you can accomplish depends on the disk.

    The Macrium disk will give you the ability to create and restore images. You can also use it to create backups of just personal files if you want to. Not sure how obvious a thing it is to be able to do back up just files in Macrium as I use Paragon Backup and Restore. I think some of them have a one button files backup utility.

    Other utility disks will give you the ability to accomplish whatever is included in that rescue environment.

    There are plenty. Many use Puppy Linux for moving files. Ultimate Boot CD is another tool that many keep for moving files and so on. Puppy Linux is a full CD based "Live" operating system. Nothing is written to the disk during use, but you have access to all your hard drives, USB ports and so on, so that you can move, add, delete, or edit files...

    I just have the Paragon B&R disk and then I use a rescue environment like Ultimate Boot CD called FalconFour. If you go with UBCD and Macrium, you should be able to basically accomplish anything if your computer breaks.

    The only thing that would stop you from being able to use a rescue CD/flash drive is if your PC will not post to BIOS. If you aren't seeing the manufacturer's screen that says "Press F8 for Advanced Boot Options" or "Press F10 to enter Setup", you likely have a bad RAM stick, graphics card/chip, or a failing/failed power supply. To boot from hard drive, CD/DVD, flash, or anything else, your PC must first pass through the initial BIOS post screen...
     
  5. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    You have given me valuable information. Mostly I now know you must be able to boot to the rescue media. No rescue media will "start a "PC".
    That was my trouble yesterday when I clicked the button to power up and it went yellow(solid) . That is why I unplugged it so I could "push" it to start. Since then it has been fine but troubles don't just go away..
    At 4 1/2 years this Dell has done its job I guess. I notice the laptop is heating more which is a sign the paste is likely pretty crispy. It is on a glass cutting board for ventilation & kept clean.
    It is the same age. I put those little chair coasters under the laptop's legs for height. I may get a cooling pad. Most Dell laptops are easy to access some parts but the N5010 is total dis assembly to paste the GPU and CPU.
    I cannot think of a young thing around here including me and the Mrs. Still here though.
    Thanks for your explanation.
    Peter
     
  6. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

    peterr...

    You're welcome. I should mention that the UBCD has a large number of tools so that you can do basically anything. The great thing about this is that you don't have to know how to use them all to still have access to them if you ever have a problem. You just post that you have the disk and then ask what to do, and you will be able to find the help to know where to start. I highly recommend keeping this handy (maybe even two of them in case one malfunctions or the CD/DVD wears out).

    I am sure you are keeping your laptop clean, but they can gather an amazing amount of dust inside that can trap heat. This may be more of a problem than even aging thermal paste.

    It is frustrating when the PC is struggling along with overheating. If you need any help at any point with that, please just post back. For now, if you haven't blown out the insides lately, you could take the back off and see if you can get the fan and vents clear of dust. Maybe that will help with the heat issue...
     
  7. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    I looked at Ultimate boot CD. I likely would need hep as you suggested if i were to use it. Please do not over rate my skills as they are simple. Secondly, Macrium is talking about going to ver 6 and needling a license, I have used them for years and they never failed but always had the free version. the stick it creates boots right to Macrium even if you have UEFI.
    So, I will be looking for free imaging programs if Macrium does as I think. I wonder if Paragon does the same regarding UEFI as a free version? I'll look it up.
    Regarding imaging, I wonder if the Win 10 native imaging program handles UEFI and can find a fie or if it just does a fll image and slowly as in Win 7.
    Regarding maintenance, I think I am facing the same problems everyone with 4 1/2 year old pcs. Namely, dust in the laptop and a need for re pasting. And with the desktop, a component like the power supply beginning to fail. Unattended they can destroy the machines. However, I saw a video on the dis assembly of the Dell Inspiron N5010 and you have to take the whole thing apart. The desktop would be easier. I have only inserted memory.
    So thanks again for your posts. i find good information in each.
    Social security prohibits purchasing new and trial and error with parts. I miss work but cannot do it.
    Peter
     

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