PCI Express vs. AGP

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Zelda55, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. Zelda55

    Zelda55 Private E-2

    What's the difference between these two types of graphics cards? I'm looking at the prices of the Radeon X800XL PCI Express and AGP and they are the same.
     
  2. A.Son

    A.Son Sergeant

    PCI-E Vga card is new model for Mobo intel 775 or AMD64 it run at 16X
    AGP Vga card is previous mobo model run at 8X
    it depend on your Mobo supports
     
  3. Zelda55

    Zelda55 Private E-2

    so are they the same quality? i just have a dell dimension 8300 so which one would i need?
     
  4. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    PCI-Express is the newest type of uhhh connection that has been out since 2004.

    PCI-express has basically 3 flavours: 2x, 8x, and 16x.

    PCI-Express video cards runs through the 16x connector. Though, with sli, this drops the card to 8x.

    The only difference between a 6600gt AGP card and a 6600gt PCI-Express card is basically, the agp requires a molex connector to it. From the quick scan I did, there isn't PRESENTLY any difference between the two.

    I remember way back when AGP first came out. I had a compaq computer that had AGP 2x. But, found that some games ran kinda slow, so I opted to by a PCI video card and that particular game ran much faster. That was just a situation that I ran into 8 years ago.

    Just remember that pic-express is still fairly new. Though, it is becoming more common.
     
  5. scoobysix

    scoobysix Private E-2

    PCI-Express is touted to be quicker than AGP for an equivalent graphic card, or so I am led to believe. In any case benchmark scores have always turned up with PCI-E cards edging out AGP cards by a little.

    But like A.Son says, it depends if your motherboard supports AGP or PCI-E graphic cards.
     
  6. Zelda55

    Zelda55 Private E-2

    anyone know if the dell dimension supports pci express cards?
     
  7. Jerkyking

    Jerkyking Sergeant Major

  8. Zelda55

    Zelda55 Private E-2

    i'll just go with AGP then...anyone know where i can get the cheapest radeon X800XL (the cheapest i have seen is $300)
     
  9. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    You may be wasting money with the 800xl,it depends which cpu you have,a 6600gt may suit your system more

    :)
     
  10. Zelda55

    Zelda55 Private E-2

    i have a dell dimension 8300...would buying the radeon X800XL over the 6600gt be a bad decision?
     
  11. askantik

    askantik Sergeant

    I have an MSI Radeon X800XL 256MB... Though mine is PCI-E.

    But it is the F-in' bomb :D :D :D

    And I bought mine on Newegg for $292 shipping. Check there, don't know what an AGP version would cost. If you don't want to spend that much money, go with just an X800 or X800Pro, they are still a little better than the 6600GT.

    I'm an ATI guy :p

     
  12. Zelda55

    Zelda55 Private E-2

    even if the radeon X800XL is really good i just want a good price for a recent 256 MB card. so is the 6600gt a better deal overall?
     
  13. askantik

    askantik Sergeant

    Depends on if you want something that is good now and or if you want something that is top of the line now and will be more than adequate for a really, really long time.

     
  14. Zelda55

    Zelda55 Private E-2

    ok then my last question would be if the 6600gt is smaller than the X800XL because ive heard the latter is huge.
     
  15. askantik

    askantik Sergeant

    Don't know, never seen a 6600GT out of the box in person. You might find some dimensions on Newegg, but yeah, the X800XL is kinda big.
     
  16. Olley

    Olley Sergeant

    make sure the power supply is strong enough to support ur new card!
     
  17. A.Son

    A.Son Sergeant

    I think if the card get Dual cores it is better than SLI and Crossfire
    Asus Card but it is A big one that I have seen at Computer EXPO in my country.
    At amoment SLI 6600Gt is still moother than 6800Gt although 3D05 points at SLI 6600Gt is alite lower.
     
  18. da chicken

    da chicken MajorGeek

  19. Zelda55

    Zelda55 Private E-2

    how would i go about making my power supply strong enough for the new card?
     
  20. askantik

    askantik Sergeant

    Funny, today to be exact, I installed an eVGA 6600GT AGP 128MB for a customer. Requires atleast a 350W power supply and needs a power plug from the PSU as well.

    Was about the same sise as my X800XL. Size doesn't seem to vary much between the two... The X800XL will basically "pwn" it in performance though. :p

     
  21. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    Yes, well, the x800xl is more in comparison with a 6800 GT, then a 6600gt.
     
  22. Zelda55

    Zelda55 Private E-2

    so i can't just go with a regular Conext Surge Protection outlet on the X800XL?
     
  23. askantik

    askantik Sergeant

    Huh?

     
  24. Zelda55

    Zelda55 Private E-2

    i don't mean for the card itself...i mean can i continue to power my computer through the conext surge protection outlet (i'm not sure if it has 350w).
     

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