Problem with CPU Liquid Cooling

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by souredspirit, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. souredspirit

    souredspirit Private First Class

    Ok so im trying to figure out a problem, I've cleaned out the radiator ducts, refilled my resevoir with bi-distilled water with an anti-corrosion addative, and make sure all pipes and screws are snug and tight.

    The problem I am having is with the pump above the cpu, it is making a very large amount of noise. It's never made it before, it is constant, and at a steady, fast pulse. It actually sounds pretty much like a cpu fan, it sounds mechanical. Before you ask, I have no idea the brand or model of my liquid cooling system, it was the generic from ibuypower.com. Can anyone tell me if this is a problem that will lead to overheating etc, cuz if so I need to turn it off sooner than later.
     
  2. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    The issue could be air in the piping system so do check to see if your see air bubbles in the piping (if its clear piping that is), or keep an eye on temps, do you have a temp monitor application?

    Monitor the temps over an hour or so and let us know what they are but id your CPU us getting over 50-60c or more so 60c then you are in the upper limit of a CPU, but as we dont know the CPU you are using we cannot tell you 100% what the upper limit is, so do you have some PC specs to give us?

    Can use the below to help
     
  3. souredspirit

    souredspirit Private First Class

    The CPU is the Athlon II X2 240 processor. It's a AM2 or Am3 (whichever is dual/quad core) 2.8 Ghz, and is not overclocked. As for a temp gauge I dont have one but the Core Temp application that comes with Windows 7 is saying that it is averaging between 25 and 26 deg C.

    I do not have clear pipes so I dont know about any bubbles, however I did clean it using vinegar and used a new fish tank air pump to continuously pump the water through into a container to agitate and clean. I then used the pump to re-rinse for 30 mins, changing the water once every 10 minutes. After that I refilled with with bi-distilled water and an anti-corrosive additive. To be honest I have no idea how much of that was neccessary vs how much of that was frill, but I feel pretty confident that it is clean enough, and free of air, debris, or algae.
     
  4. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Temps look superb so you have no issues there, and what you have done in cleaning out the system is perfect, maybe the pump is on the way out, but when you where rinsing and cleaning the system was it making this noise then?

    The noise is it metallic in sound or could is possible be a vibration caused one, maybe check the motherboard and pump for being securely bolted down.
     
  5. souredspirit

    souredspirit Private First Class

    The sound isn't metallic, it honestly sounds more like a case fan when its slightly out of sync, and it didn't make this sound until after I cleaned it.

    I went ahead and took it back out and routed power to it from some portable IT tools I collected over the years, and just held it in my hand, and the vibration is DEFINITELY coming from the pump. It does it when I'm holding the pump in hand and its not even touching the CPU.

    So to the final question I guess. If it is the pump, but the temp is good, should I bother fixing something that isn't broke? I mean I wouldn't take an old car in for repairs over a few rattles unless a warning light came on.
     
  6. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Ya, I agree. Let your car run until there's no more oil left and your engine seizes for some odd reason!rolleyes:p:-D Seriously, you changed something in there or the issue manifested itself when you changed the water. Either way, if the pump goes I hope your CPU thermally shuts down before it blows up.

    Off topic question if I may. Water cooling on a stock speed X2? It is nice but a total waste IMHO. Get a nice, compact Corsair H50 instead, water cooling without all the headaches.:)
     
  7. souredspirit

    souredspirit Private First Class

    well the idea behind the water cooling was to later upgrade to a quad core and oc that. the site i bought it from wanted like 50 bucks to do something i could do myself from bios. Im just not sweating it until I buy the upgrade.
     
  8. souredspirit

    souredspirit Private First Class

    Plus I'm pretty sure that low oil pressure or hot oil would give me a warning light...hence the statement following my "unless." Thanks for the total lack of contribution though.
     
  9. dlb

    dlb MajorGeek

    Yeah - I know it's an old thread, but I had to comment on this:
    Kind of rude, no? augie is a long time and respected member here at MG, and did post something VERY helpful IMO:
    This is EXTREMELY helpful considering the OPs situation. Old-school "traditional" water cooling is more-or-less obsolete and unnecessary, even if planning to OC anewer quad/hexa/octa-core CPU, and especially on a stock AthlonII dual core CPU (the stock air cooler is sufficient for stock clocks). The newer high end air coolers are AMAZING, and the enclosed liquid coolers like the H50 or H70 are excellent and completely trouble free.

    I think it was an important contribution even if it was a bit off topic.

    So there! :neener
     
  10. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    You're welcome and it was my pleasure to help.

    Ya, I tend to do that at times.:-o Thanks for watching my six.;)
     
  11. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    There's your problem the pump should be at the bottom of the case,it should be at the lowest in the circuit.

    The reason for this is simple pumps can pump well but they can't suck well it puts a huge amount of strain on the motor.

    You may get away with just moving the pump to the bottom of the case now but it does sound like you've burned out your pump,unless I'm misunderstanding and the pump is built into the cpu block or similar,in which case move your radiator above the pump.
     
  12. The Shadow

    The Shadow Specialist

    After many years of building PC's using the AMD cpu's, I've found that they run much cooler than their Intel equivalents and the cooler that comes with them in the retail box is more than sufficient to keep them cool. My own AMD, 2X, 5200+ cpu with the stock cooler runs at little more than room temperature, even under the heaviest loads.
    (I do take is all apart and give it a good cleaning, once a year)
    I can lay my finger on the heat-sink any time and it's only slightly warm to the touch.
    I'd NEVER put water inside my PC. That seems like a sure-fire recipe for disaster.

    Just a thought from an old PC builder,

    Cheers Mates!
    The Shadow :cool
     

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