problems transfering programs and "other"

Discussion in 'Software' started by eigenvalue, Oct 3, 2005.

  1. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    shadow has helped me recently

    bought a new PC desktop (e machines T6250---looks/looked like a good deal
    ---and only 600 bucks !!)

    bought an 80 gig external hard drive (for backup and to help transfer stuff from old PC desktop into new PC desktop)

    FIRST problem (have already transfered about 15 gig of stuff into new PC via
    the 80 gig external hard drive), as follows

    how does one EASILY transfer the address book from the old PC into the new PC ?? I have Microsoft Outlook 2000 (in the old PC), and its CD, but when
    I put that CD into the new Desktop Windows XP "says" I have Microsoft Outlook 2003, and NOT the correct Microsoft Outlook 2000---and THEN Windows XP asks me for a "key (or authentication) number"---so, I type in the "ket number" for Outlook 2000 (that number on the back of the envelope which contains that CD), and Windows XP keeps rejecting THAT

    I apparently need Microsoft Outllok to "import and export" "back and forth" to GET the address book into the new desktop---AND I certainly don't want to manually type in (in the new EMPTY address book) all "my" names and associated e mail addresses

    if Shadow replies---"Oh yeah, I've been 'busting my chops' TRYING to 'shoot down' HR 2795 (The Patent Act of 2005)", as that proposed bill in Congress
    is a "protect our turf" bill which amounts to 'throwing out the baby with the bathwater' concerning technological innovation within the USA
     
  2. Novice

    Novice MajorGeek

    I'm not the same calibre of help that SPD is, but maybe this will help. Open your email client ( Outlook or Outlook Express ), look at your top left where it says Files, and left click on it. A drop down window should appear with several options available. Export is the one that you want so click on it. It will ask where you want to export the file to and I always choose "My Documents" for simplicity. Once the file is exported to "My Documents", you can copy it to a floppy disk, again this is my own preferred method. Once it is copied to the floppy disk, you put it in your new machine, open your email client, click on Files, Import, and select A: drive as your source, and this should copy your entire address book to your new PC. This is the method that I use and has worked well for me, and haven't had any problems. Hope this helps! :)
     
  3. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    novice

    thanks

    I sort of tried that (but with a CD---don't have any empty floppies, and I don't think, haven't really "checked out", the new desktop has a floppy drive), but will try to specifically do what you suggest

    I sort of did that with Microsoft Outlook 2000 (note the "2000"), and then
    Microsoft XP "told me" I had Microsoft Outlook 2003 (note the "2003"),
    and then I got "all bogged down" in this "authentication code/number" nonsense---and (sigh) where I typed in the CORRECT number---and wherein XP "said" "oh no, you typed in the WRONG number"---and then I went to XP "help" (or similar) and there were all these complicated instructions about "advising" XP "hey, I have MO 2000, not MO 2003, and will you, XP, PLEASE permit me to download, from this CD of the COMPLETE MO 2000, into this new desktop ???"---actually, there are two (2) CDs of MO 2000,but can't
    see where one (1) of those CDs is relevant to transfering my address book
     
  4. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    OK I exported (from Files, in Outlook Express, to a folder set up named
    Address book 10-4-05) but haven't yet burned that on a CD

    hmmm--I left clicked on that file (put in folder named Address Book 10-4-05)
    and, son-of- a-gun, that file is in Microsoft Excel !!!!

    so, if I were to burn that on a CD, and put that CD in the slot for my new desktop, can I still "import" (from Microsoft Excel) into the "empty" Address Book in the new desktop ?? and if so, do I go to file, in "sending out e mails" "thing" in the new desktop, and will I find an "import" down menu to use ?? and the "import" that file (named whatever I named it,, but in THE Microsoft Excel "speadsheet") which is within the folder named Address Book 10-4-05 ??

    I don't even know WHY that list of names, and e mails, re the "old" address book, got INTO the Microsoft Excel "spreadsheet thing"

    ---and it is a good thing I'm constantly using the SAME partially blank CD "to burn on"
     
  5. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    novice

    thank you very much---by following your instructions (and "jockeying" around a bit), I finally got the old address book into the new (and empty)
    address book in the new desktop

    next problem

    when I transfered the some 15 gig into the new desktop, many programs (and shortcuts) "did not take"/did not work

    am not sure where to start--but jumping back to XP "insisting" I'm trying to transfer Microsoft Outlook 2003 (whereas I'm, in fact, trying to transfer Microsoft Outlook 2000), "what a mess"---can that problem be fixed ?? if I can "get away with it", I'm not interested, at this time, in purchasing Microsoft Outlook 2003, and I guess I should note that I suspect a 2005 "version" has recently "hit the market"

    Any help would be appreciated on this
     
  6. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Hello, eigenvalue.

    Office 2003 is problably a 'Try & Buy' 30-day Trial Version; unless you paid for the full version of Office 2003. If it is the trial version then just uninstall from Add or Remove Programs in the Control Panel. Then install the copy of Office 2000 you have the CDs for, and import your Address Book into Outlook 2000. Microsoft Excel is one of the file formats you can export your Address Book.
     
  7. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    hey, what's new ?? how does your daughter like college ??
    ----the transfer of the address book problem has been solved

    yes, a "trial & try" (or vice versa) version of 2003 came with the new desktop--has been "silly" that MS refuses to accept my Outlook 2000 (and keeps naming same 2003)---and I'm quite sure, just yesterday, I read of a Microsoft Outlook 2005 (not 2003, nor 2000) "coming around the bend"

    now I can't even learn (so far) how to do a printscreen with XP---with 98 SE I just used, in combination, an MS Paint shortcut, and a clipboard viewer shortcut

    and I guess re CCleaner, spybot etc I'll have to go back to that tutorial (which I saved) and our loooonnnggg discussions on those "freebie" protection downloads (which I saved to disk also)

    must hit the sack---oh, my son (who is sort of "a gun nut", even though he doesn't hunt) recently bought an operating WWII 45 caliber Thompson submachine gun---what for ? I don't know !!---I hope not for "plunking squirrels"

    OK---I'll remove that trial Outlook (or Office) 2003 program---and then try to transfer (via the two CDS) the 2000 Outlook/and/or Office into the new desktop
     
  8. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    shadow

    I uninstalled Office 2003, and installed (via the CD) Ofice 2000---it worked

    next, I'll do all the spybot etc stuff we did months ago (I've printed out the tutorial)

    BUT in "my haste" to TRY to transfer about 1152 unanswered e mails "incoming" (most of which didn't "deserve" an answer, eg just telecom "pitch and R&D stuff"), I did delete same to "never never land", or transfered same to "I know not where"---(sigh) lost forever, I guess
    ---and those incoming e mails(unanswered) amounted to about 350 megabytes !!!

    doubt if I'll have problems with the spybot etc stuff
     
  9. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    You shouldn't have any problems installing and updating any of the spyware stuff.

    If you deleted the emails and didn't empty the 'Deleted Items' folder then they should still be on the old system. 350Mbytes of email is a lot of email.

    Kids are doing great. Son is in college, daughter is applying to 6 schools (I think it's 6); plus the Airforce Academy.
     
  10. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    I think I first hit "select all" (re the inbox stuff), then hit export---don't know what happened---maybe I tried next "copy"---in any event EVERYTHING disappeared---inbox stuff, "sent to" stuff, deleted items stuff, etc--doesn't matter

    college is fun (sometimes, too much fun)
     
  11. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    shadow

    I haven't started the spybot etc downloads

    I dug around a little about "never never land"

    I have a folder named (o3FSA7420-3Fcc-1103-AIB etc etc), and I did NOT name ANY folder with THAT long name, and thatfolder contains 13 files, and 2 other folders

    left clicking on that LONG file name I get a folder named Microsoft

    left clicking on that folder named Microsoft, I get a folder named Outlook Express, and that LATTER folder has 13 files

    the file "deleted items" (within that folder named Outlook Express) is 301 megabytes in size, and when I left click on that I get the "new e mail windows box thing" (with to-----, from---, date---, subject--- box for me to type a message, etc)

    what on earth is that particular "deleted items" file, or what is all of that ?------the "inbox" file is 31 megabytes in size
     
  12. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    I can't be entirely postive, but it looks like you found where Outlook stores your email on the hard drive, after an export. Normally everything would be in a pst or ost file.
     
  13. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    geez, that 301 megabytes COULD be EVERY inbox, outbox, etc
    Outlook Express "thing" I ever saw ?? and that 31 megabytes COULD be ONLY the inbox stuff I didn't save, nor respond to ?? or, put another way, the 31 megabytes stuff could be "a subset" of the 301 megabytes stuff ??

    I'm going to "fish around" some more and TRY to find the details within that 301 megabytes file, AND within that 31 megabytes file

    clicking (left clicking) on EITHER file doesn't open a "normal" list of what's in those respective files, but brings up (as I mentioned before) that "sending e mail" "box" which "wants me" to e mail THAT stuff to "parties unknown" [and there is an Outlook Express (or Microsoft Outlook) "icon" WITHIN that e mail message to be sent, near the bottom, as if I'm going to e mail my (??) Outlook Express stuff, or Microsoft Outlook stuff, to "parties unknown", or "parties yet to be named (by me)"]
     
  14. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    and IF I try to e mail to ANYBODY 301 megabytes, or even 31 megabytes, it will take maybe a WEEK to transmit all that, and maybe ANOTHER week, on the other end, for the receiver to download all that
     
  15. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Where exactly on your drive did you find this folder? I use Thunderbird as my default; so, I'm not sure if I have a similar folder for Outlook.
     
  16. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    I didn't find (I guess) that folder with the VERY long name, nor did I, most certainly, name that folder its long winded name---in other words, whatever keys I hit what resulted was that folder (and folder name)

    I may have (luckily, or unluckily) just copied some relevant folder (or file) which was ALREADY named by Microsoft computer programmers in the course of their prior computer programming
     
  17. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    and I don't understand what you mean when you say "I use Thunderbird as my default"---what is (for example) Thunderbird ??


    I've chosen (infrequently) various defaults, but such has been "simple stuff" (like use Outlook Express as my default e mail "means" rather tha netzero's e mail "means")
     
  18. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

  19. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    oh---I sort of understand

    but I don't want to learn too much MORE "new stuff"--eg (and I mean eg)
    I must (perhaps) even learn to program in Visual Basic (for some OTHER things) and I'm "getting a little old" to learn "new stuff"---(sigh) I pretty much MUST do some iterative-looping programming stuff (basically, computer models re choosing stocks, and probabilities, and combinations of numerous independent variables, must be tried or tested)p----in "the old days" (re OTHER things) I would set up the miodels, and then hand same to the programmers for the programming---there are "big bucks" involved

    look up a guy named Bruce Storms on a web site named "Math for America"
    (and I'm "good ole Bruce")
     
  20. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    What is the full path to the folder on your Hard drive that has the Outlook stuff?

    Plane and Spherical Trigonometry is more my thing, with a little Analytical Calculus thrown in for good measure.
     
  21. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    you mean the x backward slash y backward slash etc ?? I can find that (I guess) via doing a seach or find, and then all that "backwards slash" stuff will be spelled out for the relevant file

    I don't even understand HOW I could COMPLETELY defrag, as that numbers -letters-numbers file name is VERY long (as in "length")

    but not tonight---must get up at 500 AM
     
  22. Novice

    Novice MajorGeek

    @eigenvalue,

    Glad to see that you got your address book imported successefully! Just want to add that a files name or length of same has nothing to do with the amount of time that is needed to defrag it. It has to do with the amount of disk clusters that the file occupies and whether or not anything has been added or deleted from the file.

    Just wanted to say "Hi" and glad that you are getting your new computer sorted out! :)
     
  23. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    shadow

    the full path for that file (or folder) named (03FA7420 etc
    is C\WINDOWS\Application Data\Identities

    Novice

    thank you
     
  24. pokane83

    pokane83 Private E-2

    hello there i was wondering if u could help me out, i noticed the other day i had an extra tool bar on me computer and my homepage kerps going back to the same one that i cant get rid of, could u advise me on how to remoce it, ive trtyied different thingd and still cant, thanks :)
     
  25. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    pokane83

    if you're asking me, I "must" "pass on that"

    but perhaps Novice or shadow can help you
     
  26. pokane83

    pokane83 Private E-2

    hello shadow, was wondering if u could help me out, i noticed another toolbar on my web page (magic search) and i cant get rid of it, also my homepage has changed and keeps going back when i change it, could u help me fix it thanks :)
     
  27. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    @ pokane82 - Please don't post issues not related to the topic of the thread in another posters thread, as this can confuse those we are trying to help as well as others reading this thread.

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    Make sure you check version numbers and get all updates.

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    After doing ALL of the above you still have a problem make sure you have booted to normal mode and run the steps in the below link to properly use HijackThis:

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    Once you have completed the above start a thread in the Spyware Specific Forum.
     
  28. Novice

    Novice MajorGeek

    @pokane83,

    Your symptoms seem to indicate spyware/addware infestation! As I would like to help you with this, but hesistate to give wrong advice which can fubar a computer, I will refer you to the SpyWareSpecifc page of this forum. There are members there that are more experinced with dealing with such problems, can help more than myself, and won't mess up your computer in the process! :)
     

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