RAM, Paging file with 8 mb databurst, RAID 0

Discussion in 'Software' started by ScouseJohno, Apr 23, 2006.

  1. ScouseJohno

    ScouseJohno Private E-2

    Hi All,

    First off system specs:

    Processor Intel Pentium D 950 x2 @ 3.40MHz
    Memory Crucial 2048Mb (4x512mb dual)
    Graphics Nvidia 7800gtx
    Primary Hard Drive(s) 2x RAID 0 - Striping Seagate 8MB databurst SATA 160Gb

    I changed my paging file, to be handled by ram only, this led to a problem whilst gaming in BF2, basically a loss of soud at certain points in the game, i have not had this problem before until i changed my paging file.

    Taking into consideration, the databurst on the Hard drives and my ram etc, what should i set my paging file to?

    I look forward to a response, and thx in advance!
     
  2. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    You have a lot of ram, but its impossible to have ram only be used in XP.

    The paging file is a requirement.

    Take your heavieist memory load in a day, and look to see how much ram is used. If it doesn't exceed your ram amount, I'd make one for a max size of 512mb.

    If it does exceed your ram amount, I'd take that amount it went over, and add 512 to it.

    The important thing to keep in mind is Windows will resize the file if needed.
     
  3. ScouseJohno

    ScouseJohno Private E-2

    TY for the reply, so what you recommend for a min and max? taking into consideration its a gaming machine.
     
  4. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    TBH, I never have seen any game use all 2gb of my ram, so a small paging file ~512mb should be fine.
     
  5. ScouseJohno

    ScouseJohno Private E-2

    So what should i set as min and max?

    TIA
     
  6. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I've already mentioned it.

    Twice :)
     
  7. ScouseJohno

    ScouseJohno Private E-2

    min is?
    max is?

    Excuse my ignorance, as you said you have mentioned it, but coulkd you please provide numerical figures.
     
  8. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I bolded it. Not noting a max or min implies a single size. Why set a max and min, when it fragments the drive more?

    Besides, Windows will make it bigger if it needs to anyway.
     
  9. mellink

    mellink Private E-2

    BF2 the basics!

    Hi guys,
    I was play BF2 loads, i'm not a pro at it though...

    Firstly the basic idea is that Xp (32bit) can not use more than 2.5gb, unless the motherboard is OCed, modded....

    The second thing is that the sound dosn't work well if you only use ram becasue of the soundcard, people who have on-board sound card will have
    greky sound or just 10seconds of sound and then nothin for a bit...
    If you have a sound card use it! If you don't use a paging file (keep it as small as possible...)

    To find the best size paging file for you, see ow low you get get the pagging file size while loading BF2, if a windows pops-up then its too low, then what ever size you had add 100mb and theres your opitum paging file....
    BF2 will never use more than 2gb it is a FACT, windows programing dise not allow it, unless you have modded you windows and motherboard....

    My System spec:
    2x3.60ghz PD
    2gb (2x1gb)
    4x160gb SATA is ARRY
    Sli, nVidia 6800 Ultras (PIC-E)

    Runs BF2 all on MAX... No lag, load up time of about 25 seconds...
     
  10. mellink

    mellink Private E-2

     
  11. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Yes, it is. You disable it, and Windows will use one anyway. Disabling the pagefile does not stop XP from paging ram, and could, and usually does, hurt performance.

    And the jibberish regarding Windows XP not being able to use more than 2.5gb of ram is just that, jibberish.

    Now, there is truth that 32bit XP cannot utilize more than 4gb of physical ram (this includes paging file), but thats nowhere near 2.5gb. The computer hardware has nothing to do with it, its an OS limitation, and no amount of motherboard modding or overclocking will change that.

    I think you are misinformed, sir.
     
  12. mellink

    mellink Private E-2

    LOL, the paging file maybe, but the sound card thing is ture...:rolleyes:
     
  13. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Check the thread title, sound isn't the question.

    In the future, please check your information. Its ok to be wrong, we all are at some point, but to give out wrong info is bad form, then counter someone else with said wrong info, is frowned on here. We want all answers to eb as accurate as possible from our members.


    If you are not 100% certain, put an 'I think' into your statement.

    :)

    By the way, I use onboard sound without skipping, crackling, stuttering, or anything else.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 13, 2006
  14. mellink

    mellink Private E-2

    :eek: QUOTE - - - ScouseJohno
    Private E-2 Join Date: May 2005
    Posts: 10

    RAM, Paging file with 8 mb databurst, RAID 0

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Hi All,

    First off system specs:

    Processor Intel Pentium D 950 x2 @ 3.40MHz
    Memory Crucial 2048Mb (4x512mb dual)
    Graphics Nvidia 7800gtx
    Primary Hard Drive(s) 2x RAID 0 - Striping Seagate 8MB databurst SATA 160Gb

    I changed my paging file, to be handled by ram only, this led to a problem whilst gaming in BF2, basically a loss of soud at certain points in the game, i have not had this problem before until i changed my paging file.
    END QUOTE-----

    See sound was the question and i said (without a paging file, sound is poor)
     
  15. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    How about posting the full message? Anything taken out of context can mean something else.



    :rolleyes:
     
  16. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    So without a pagefile the sound is poor, and with a pagefile its ok.. leads to the fault not being the sound card or driver but the lack of sufficent pagefile.

    XP needs a pagefile on the root OS drive to opperate, it only has to be the token 128mb in size just to help any STOP errors debug but it still needs a pagefile, if you think you have removed it from C: and not left a token size this can actually be a min of 2mb to a max of 50mb but as I mentioned for debugging STOP errors a size of 128mb is needed, then the OS will either throw out errors or actually add a large PF back on its own.


    Back to question

    depending on software then may need or require a pagefile of a certain size of if the game was working when the PF was at a certain size, then I would experiment with different sizes until you find a low size that works for you, actually splitting the PF can actaully help performance in some apps.
     
  17. ScouseJohno

    ScouseJohno Private E-2

    Well i set it to min 512, max 768. Have not had any problems of late so i shall leave it be for now.

    Thanks for all the constructive replys :)
     
  18. lubetek

    lubetek Private First Class

    you should set the min and max to the same size.
     
  19. Natakel

    Natakel Guest

    I didn't know that . . . what would happen if your physical ram and page file added up to greater then 4gb? Would the OS just ignore the overage, or could it cause performance problems? Just wondering, as I think I have done just that in the past - might explain some odd events . . .
     

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