Refused WU?

Hey guys,

I know it's probably nothing, but I just want to make sure since i'm still faily new to folding. Last night I finished a WU as per usual, and everything seemed to go fine, there were no errors in the WU. but when it tried to send the WU the work server kept actively refusing the WU all night. It tried about 30 times to send the WU and every time it tried to send it, it was actively refused.

This morning it sent perfect on the first attempt, and I got full score with no errors.

Could it just have been a hiccup with the new Beta or a busy work server? Or do I need to check some setting out?

 

They've been having some issues with their servers lately, actually quite often as servers go, not your fault. They're also installing new servers so that may be a part of it, Bookmark this page.

 

Yep.. My server has a great big yellow box that says DOWN beside it.. lol

Thanks augie

 

You're very welcome. As you can see, they have a lot of servers . I wouldn't want to manage that lot!:-D

 

Most definately not lol. they must have a full-time crew just to keep all the servers maintained and functional. Or they probably just get the university kids in the Tech courses to do it all as part of their education. Free maintenence :-D

 

You're probably right. It would be a good trial by fire into the real world!:-D

 

I would love a course like that, working on the "worlds largest super-computer's" servers. I would fight tooth and nail for a spot in that class :-D

That might also explain the high problem rate with the servers. Students tend to make mistakes while they learn, thats how almost everyone learns. And those mistakes would reflect in the reliability of the servers.

 

They also have older hardware which is being pushed to the max and beyond.

 

Well then stop making them crash with your 30k PPD augie.. geez LOL

 

That's not my fault, blame the guy with 27 i7's raking in some 550K.:eek Hopefully next week I can add a Sandy Bridge i7.:-D

 

Wow, thats overkill. He could have put a down payment on a nice house in the hills with all that.

guess we better head out to the libraries and start installing clients on every PC :-D

(Joking, thats probably illegal, although i do not know for sure. i wouldnt advise it)

 

Ya, at $500/copy =$13.5K US, that is insane! He must be a bigwig at a data centre as he was able to get an electrician to route in more power and is not paying for the power. Here's a pic when he 'only' had 18 i7's. Quite impressive really.

 

Very impressive, His own little folding farm. And that is definately one way to keep 18 i7's cool, at least he saved money on cases and fans :-D

 

Wow.. finally finished my 11th SMP2 WU.. and after reading up i'm entitled to bonus points.

So what happens? the server refuses me again... :banghead


I love my luck lol



does this cost me any points at all? Or does the client record the finish time and award points based off that time?

 

First off I don't understand why you are having problems uploading WU's as I am sailing along as long as I don't turn off the console client(s),which I do from time to time to play an antiquated online game (MOHAA)

there is a flag I use should I have a problem with uploading a WU which is -send all ,thereafter removing that flag after viewing the log file to locate "[18:45:57] + Results successfully sent
[18:45:57] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home." on the WU in question.

as to losing points my understanding is the work unit has to be received by the collection server to be counted which means on time or within the alloted time fame,the sooner the higher the bonus points.

 

Well this is what I'm seeing..

02:48:49:Connecting to 171.67.108.25:80
02:48:50:ERROR: Exception: Failed to connect to 171.67.108.25:80: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.
02:51:56:Unit 01:Completed 415000 out of 500000 steps (83%)
02:53:01:Sending unit results: id:00 state:SEND project:6054 run:1 clone:80 gen:230 core:0xa3 unit:0x12f940e64dd7de9900e60050000117a6
02:53:01:Unit 00: Uploading 17.17KiB
02:53:01:Connecting to 171.64.65.54:8080
02:53:01:WARNING: Exception: Failed to send results to work server: Upload failed
02:53:01:Trying to send results to collection server
02:53:02:Unit 00: Uploading 17.17KiB
02:53:02:Connecting to 171.67.108.25:8080
02:53:03:WARNING: WorkServer connection failed on port 8080 trying 80
02:53:03:Connecting to 171.67.108.25:80
02:53:05:ERROR: Exception: Failed to connect to 171.67.108.25:80: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.
02:59:53:Sending unit results: id:00 state:SEND project:6054 run:1 clone:80 gen:230 core:0xa3 unit:0x12f940e64dd7de9900e60050000117a6
02:59:53:Unit 00: Uploading 17.17KiB
02:59:53:Connecting to 171.64.65.54:8080
02:59:53:WARNING: Exception: Failed to send results to work server: Upload failed
02:59:53:Trying to send results to collection server
02:59:53:Unit 00: Uploading 17.17KiB
02:59:53:Connecting to 171.67.108.25:8080
02:59:54:WARNING: WorkServer connection failed on port 8080 trying 80
02:59:54:Connecting to 171.67.108.25:80
02:59:56:ERROR: Exception: Failed to connect to 171.67.108.25:80: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.
03:05:40:Unit 01:Completed 420000 out of 500000 steps (84%)
03:10:58:Sending unit results: id:00 state:SEND project:6054 run:1 clone:80 gen:230 core:0xa3 unit:0x12f940e64dd7de9900e60050000117a6
03:10:58:Unit 00: Uploading 17.17KiB
03:10:58:Connecting to 171.64.65.54:8080
03:10:58:WARNING: Exception: Failed to send results to work server: Upload failed
03:10:58:Trying to send results to collection server
03:10:58:Unit 00: Uploading 17.17KiB
03:10:58:Connecting to 171.67.108.25:8080
03:11:00:WARNING: WorkServer connection failed on port 8080 trying 80
03:11:00:Connecting to 171.67.108.25:80
03:11:01:ERROR: Exception: Failed to connect to 171.67.108.25:80: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.


Collection Server:
171.67.108.25 CS 5 vsp19v pande standby Not Accept 9.16 0 0 508 26819 976

 

beginners luck? :confused

The good thing is that particular server is now fully operational.

I wonder what has happened to Stanford's backup strategy because usually another server will collect it.

From now on were I you I would post here concerning down/not accepting servers,so it can be looked in to,which as I recall happens on the weekends when very few network people are around to re boot the server in question.

serverstat

fold on

*Edit

First time I've seen that particular Error "target machine actively refused it"

 

Well this would be the 2nd time it's happened to me. I'm not quite sure why it's happening, but this time It's been trying to upload for almost 48 hours and no luck.

From looking at the log I can see it's trying 2 different collection servers, both of which are apparently refusing it because they are in standy mode.

All I know is that those points for the WU are toast. I will see if this next WU goes through and dump the problem WU if it's sucessfull. It this next one gets stuck as well, I'll try uninstalling and re-installing the client, re-set all flags and config. and start from square #1.

The last time this happened it was stuck for about 24 hours before it went through automatically.

 

Yep, This last one just sent without a hitch. I will notify the F@H guys about which WU is stuck.

In the meantime, I'll just keep folding away and see if this dead WU does anything. If it's still here in couple more days I'll dump it. It's using my precious cycles trying to send every few minutes

 

I've seen that error maybe twice in the last six years. Also, I agree with noprob, post in their forums with issues like this, you can't get any better help anywhere than there for these types of problems. Will you be registering with the same alias as here?

 

This problem has been going on for the last few days (since wednesday) with this server.

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=18555

"There's nothing that can be done to fix the old Collection Servers that are off-line (including 171.67.108.25) so reporting problems associate with it is a waste of time. Those servers were running an old version of the Server code which is incompatible with the new server code. We can deal with problems associate with the primary Work Servers."

Just the luck of the draw.. I got the short stick

 

Damn man that sucks real bad! Looks like nothing much will be done with that/those servers, but it begs the question 'Why are they sending out WU's for that server in the first place then?' I'm totally confused here.:confused I'm going to readup on this.

 

The supply server probably needed to be programmed to stop issuing WU's assigned to that collection server. Some WU's were probably already generated and waiting to be picked up before they knew of this problem.

I picked mine up on wednesday, right before the first post on F@H's forum about this issue. I'm pretty sure that by thursday the servers were no longer issuing WU's assigned to that collection server, as my new WU's are going perfect at 1400-1500PPD with my bonus

Now I will be trying the -advmethods and a larger packet size after this WU to see how that affects my PPD.

 

Ooh man, you're getting a bonus! I learn something new every day. That's quite a jump in PPD!:dood:wine

 

indeed.. roughly 225% of my previous PPD before bonus :drool

Now I cant wait to get it running @ 3.6-3.8Ghz on the new board with this GPU. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133391

I know it's a budget GPU, but it's a pretty good card for $60. And it's better than what i'm using now which is nada. Plus it's cheap, and i like to OC, so if I burn it up it's easily replaced :-D

 

I get some 6>7K with my stock 260 so you shouldn't be too far behind that with the OC. 22 ambient outside but damn warm inside with my 4 GPU's!

 

Remember, push the shaders first and everything else maybe %5 using Afterburner as more than %5 doesn't give much extra PPD except for useless heat, after that you're on your own. Keep the fan on AUTO.

 

Those are some decent numbers for a cheap GPU But I see yours is a GTX and the one i picked is just a GT.. will that affect it much?


I'm right on the ontario/quebec border near Cornwall, it's 24 ambient currently, and 30+ with the humidex. I turned on my 2nd intake and exhaust fans today and I think I might need some noctua's or something a little quieter than the cheap fans i'm using ATM.

My rig sounds like a microwave oven right now.. but at least it's cool. :cool

burrito's anyone?

 

10 minute rule afterthought..

Also, will having the Cuda and PhysX help with folding at all?

 

It wasn't cheap when I bought the 260. As to the Noctuas, I just bought a couple for my Hyper 212+ and might use those too for my H-50, depends on what I don't hear!:-D Yup, noisy like a busy street here but I'm in the woods!:-D Cornwall was pretty quiet last time I was there some 20 years ago, I guess it's noisier.

 

CUDA is absolutely necessary for GPU2 folding.

Here.

 

Awesome, everything should be good then

I was aiming for 5k PPD but I'll take a little extra with no complaints.

I'm guessing the GT-260 falls between the 9800GTX and the GTX-260 somewhere :confused

 

That GT 240(typo?) should get around 4K PPD at stock as does my 9800GT as it only has 16 more cores than mine, I'm getting out of my league now, sorry I can't help you more.

 

Hah yea, thats a typo, I dont know how I got GT-260 stuck in my head.. she's a 240 lol :-o

and 4k is good enough for me, combined with my CPU that puts me over the 5k PPD mark which is my goal for this machine for now. Then it can be my 24/7 folder while I work on building the next one. Eventually networked and running in unison :-D

Thank God hydro is included with my rent lol

Sorry for bringing you out of your league lol, I googled F@H GPU PPD chart and a thread you posted somewhere else is the first link

 

What? You're not running 24/7 yet?:-D No worries about bringing me out of my league, I know my limitations. Bwahahah @ thread! Google loves me!roflmao

 

Yea I wasn't getting any bonus, so I was giving it 6-8 hours downtime a night. So I have a few PPD left in my proc still.

It gave me time to do fan work and get my HD's set up and do some wire management inside the case to improve airflow and all the other little details that usually get neglected, Plus some sleeping time.

I also just installed a new PSU the other week and wanted to be awake if it decided to nuke itself lol. I had one go while I was sleeping before, and it wasn't funny. There was some loud crackling that woke me up, then an 8-inch fireball and sparks erupted out the back of the tower. Talk about getting woken up rough :-D

It was a Bestec and I knew nothing about Bestec PSU's back then. It took my old MSI board with it as well.

 

LOL @ conflagration!:devil That's one reason I always pay the extra bucks for a good PSU, sure it costs maybe triple the cheap crap but it won't take out one's machine! I sure as hell don't want to lose my expensive rigs because I'm cheap on the PSU! Lose $1K for $40 bucks man? Never!

 

As I've read somewhere, (forget where, could have been here)

"Using a cheap PSU is like using a used condom. Sure it works, but is it really that good of an idea?" :-D

I have to admit though, i've heard alot of bad about Rosewill PSU's, but I've been using their RV2-600 model for almost a year now on an old Athlon x64 3200+ and it's never had a problem. I would buy one again, but not for anything high-end mind you.

 

16:08:45:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
16:08:45:Final credit estimate, 1978.00 points

in 19 hours.


no downtime



(Really wish I could figure out how to change the times in the logs to my timezone, but no biggie)

 

Great folding man! I haven't been able to change the time though I haven't tried too hard either.

BTW, we gave them Jim Carrey and Celine Dion too! Good riddance to them, especially to Dion, she can bang her 2x4 chest in Vegas for all I care.:-D

 

roflmao they just keep taking our garbage. Toronto is even shipping their excess trash to the US now as well on big lake freighters.

and Jim Carrey wasn't all that bad, his ex-wife Jenny McCarthy is pretty hot stuff lol

Now if only we could get Sidney Crosby back..

damn penguins..

 

We can't afford a good team anymore. If Sydney came back up here, then I might start watching again. I haven't watched hockey in a long time man, ever since Shero started the clutch and grab style, boring! Bring on the Ruskies and the big ice, now that was exciting! What was it?

1970 I believe when they first came over, 3-3 tie with the Canadiens. What a battle man!

 

I wasn't alive for that, but the footage i've seen was spectacular The annoucers were getting so excited they couldnt even speak properly :-D


Bahhhhh.. my luck is garbage this week.

16:41:06:Unit 01:Completed 30000 out of 1000000 steps (3%)
16:49:33:Unit 01:Gromacs cannot continue further.
16:49:33:Unit 01:Going to send back what have done -- stepsTotalG=1000000
16:49:33:Unit 01:Work fraction=0.0338 steps=1000000.
16:49:37:Unit 01:logfile size=12707 infoLength=12707 edr=0 trr=23
16:49:37:Unit 01:logfile size: 12707 info=12707 bed=0 hdr=23
16:49:37:Unit 01:- Writing 13243 bytes of core data to disk...
16:49:37:Unit 01one: 12731 -> 4464 (compressed to 35.0 percent)
16:49:37:Unit 01: ... Done.
16:49:37:FahCore, running Unit 01, returned: BAD_WORK_UNIT (114)

 

At least it wasn't due to nan's, which means too much OC usually on GPU's, I never had a bad WU though. If they ban you for 24 hrs. then cut some MGHz off the CPU. Damn man, that's some real bad luck!:eek

 

Ya one of my first WU's when i started out gave me an UNSTABLE_PC error. I dropped my OC to where it is now and haven't gotten one of those since.

This was my first BAD_WU though, that i know of anyway. there could have been 1 or 2 that slipped past when I wasn't around. I will go do some reading about what that error could possibly mean and start eliminating causes lol.

I will keep a close eye on my logs today.

 

It's probably just a bad one as it says, it happens from time to time but never to me yet.:cool That's why you got the credit, their fault.

 

What are nan's? lol :-o

 

No idea. All I know is that I OC'd my GPU too much so it was not stable I guess, once I reduced that the nans stopped showing their ugly faces.

 

ahhh..

I guess thats better than saying "Nan-ya business" roflmao

 

LOL, I'd never say that to a fellow folder. Good one!roflmao