Rollbackrx

Hello
I was being advised by a member regarding this program so will bring it to the forum for any to comment upon.
I read that before a major update the program should be uninstalled.
Because many updates are done without our knowing it, what do you do to prevent a problem.
Also, although I think I will install it, be advised you must use its uninstaller and that you cannot do so with Iobit, Revo etc. That information is not made know up front that I can see. Britec did a great video on YouTube so I am asking how many are going to use this or are actually doing so now. If you are, how is it going?
TY
Peter

 

My word of caution, I used one of those programs and one day my drive was getting full. It was all the data it keeps for you to roll back. I just unistalled the program and it rolled back to the day I installed. So read the manual or ask their support how to remove it without losing everything.

 

When you uninstall now you have to specify which snapshot you want to use. The Home version peter is using only allows 7 snapshots so no risk of space issues.

 

I am going to try to include some info I was given at chat for RollbackDx and the second is a conversation with the owner in the forum. I am awaiting his answer regarding updates and uninstallation. If you read the forum which is quite dated there are issue with updates. It seems it was ok in the day but not applicable to Win 10..
I previously wrote on Veterans' Day and thought it was a totally dead forum; I stand corrected, not totally.
I have 2 referrals I made to bookmarks but don't know how to include them here; they had to do with how to uninstall the program and the updates issue. To be honest, the tech at the program's site was 'antsy' about the way updates are handled. One mention was the old way updates were issued to download and wait to install but that is no longer applicable with Win 10.

I wrote:
I had 2 suggestions and 1 question after chatting with your company.
I offer up that you make known that uninstallation be done with your uninstaller not Revo, Iobit etc. I believe chat said add remove would be ok too - correct.
Also, advise users up front that if major updates, Anniversary and smaller, require the program be uninstalled.
This leads to my question; how are we to know when to uninstall for an update so we do not run into disaster?
I installed, had issues uninstalling and recovered an image. I wish to try again but this update business has me reluctant to try, at this point.
TY
Peter

 

>>>I am working on this with the company + Bernie. Bernie is doing fine but the update issue nags at me and the response at the site seems to confirm that suspicion.
I think it boils down to something like ERUNT as far as being good in its day but with these new updates and new technology there may be issues. It seems the updates are a chancy issue currently.

 

Earthling recommended Rollback Rx to me as well and I had some questions for him. He's only running Win 10 now but, I'm multi-booting Win 7, 8.1 and 10. It might be OK on 7 & 8.1 but 10?

 

It's been running on two Win 10 systems for nearly a week now without issues of any kind and I have successfully tested all of its main functions. However I have explained to peterr that I too need to understand how it deals with a major update, i.e. a version change and we won't know the answer to that until there is one. But we know that version change updates require you to set a time and date, they don't just barge on regardless. So there is no problem about uninstalling first if that is what you want to do but I shall leave it running as I want to know what happens. I don't really care if it goes wrong or renders the system unbootable as that is very easily corrected and an image restore will quickly get me up and running again.

But there are risks to using a program like this that makes extensive use of the MBR and it isn't really recommended for inexperienced users unless they are confident about their ability to recover a borked system and I certainly would not recommend it at present for systems you have to be able to rely on.

 

Yeah, I'm not one that has a "spare" system I can experiment with (although I have USB drives with Windows installed on them — maybe I can try it on one of those).

 

I just received a response from the company who said they will, though various source, allow users to be aware of updates that may require uninstallation. I think the reply was in error as he bundled using add remove with the uninstaller. I will wait to hear.
I know you cannot use 3rd party and thought only the uninstaller should be used. He seemed to say add remove would suffice but as I said, he is writing back about this.
He did say he was speaking with the developer. I will post back what I hear likely today.
Peter

 

I wonder if Tweaking.com's registry backup would be a simpler alternative to RollbackRX. I guess Rollback would restore more tan just the registry.
I used tweaking.com 2 years ago for a while until it was pointed out that system restore, does restore more than the registry backup does.
What is your opinion of the registry backup at Tweaking.com - schedules etc.?
I found it easy and reliable so that would mean anyone can do it. If you had an issue would it revert to the way you where before the incident?

 

RbRX backs up and restores an entire drive, exactly as an imaging program would. A registry backup just backs up a few files and is in no way a substitute. RbRX has now been running for 8 days without issues on two Win 10 computers here. Several test snapshot restores have been successfully carried out on both systems. It works, though I still want to see what happens when we get a major Win 10 update.

 

Well I wanted to run this by you and am happy that you are monitoring it.
I will keep some restore points and not bother with that other registry program as you say. I wonder what kind of update will have any impact. I was emailing Sam who is the owner and he is going to tell the developer to let users know about the uninstall issue when an update is going to affect the program. Now, for uninstall, I believe you can use their uninstall or [add/remove? not sure of this]
He is also going to see if he can send out to many sites like Facebook etc. the update deal and uninstall.
I hope all works out for the good b/c I like the idea.
I think I reached Sam by clicking the help on the program page which brought me to a forum and home page.
He is very responsive except weekends and holidays..

 

Hello
The following excerpts are from Aomei backer upper. I am showing the forum to see if there are any real reasons to choose this over RollbackRX, or not to choose RollbackRX at all. I do not know the answers, that is why I am asking before installing.
They say:
“The Home Edition of RollbackRX protects only system partition instead of the whole hard drive. You can easily create a snapshot of the system, and later revert it to an earlier time. But what about the irreplaceable files and documents and photos you create? It doesn’t monitor the file for changes, so it is not a real continuous data protection. Installing one another file backup software to protect them or purchasing the paid version of RollbackRX is not an effective and wise choice.

What’s more, the free version of RollbackRX doesn’t support Schedule Task. The Task Schedule in Home Edition comes pre-configured to take a snapshot at the first boot of the day.

RollbackRX PC Home Edition fails to encrypt snapshots that may bring unauthorized access to your images. You are advised do not install Rx on a SSD drive because it doesn’t allow theSSD TRIMfunction. And it does not work with SCSI, RAID or MIRROR hard-drive configurations as well. An increasing number of users would like totransfer C drive to SSDfor better performance currently. So Rx is not a perfect solution for users who have SSD installed. “
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Then they go on to promote Aomei. Isn’t Aomei just another imaging program like Macrium, Paragon etc.?

They suggest that you can simply click a restore button rather than having to use a disc unless you cannot recover without the disc. I have always used a disc to recover an image.

In light of this information, is RollbackRX still an advisable program?
Lastly, should image recovery with any imaging program be done within the program by clicking a button, or do you think recovering an image should one use a disc?

Thanks a lot for any reaction to this as I have been researching this program but don’t want a problem. For example, my next build will have an SSD. Also, when I recover I don't know if I am wasting time and should not use a disc and just click the recovery button.

 

Only a fool would argue that Rollback is a replacement for an imaging program as, unlike imaging programs, it cannot recover a system in the event of disk failure. Yet that quote, which I can scarce believe comes from Aomei, fails even to mention that crucial advantage. The two programs complement each other, with Rollback winning hands down as a five minute fix for any software issue, and imaging forming a safety net in case things really gets serious. The TRIM situation is still hotly debated but my belief is that TRIM cannot protect any sectors that are part of any current snapshot, but the built in automatic defrag ensures that these sectors get moved around, effectively enabling TRIM to work on SSDs as it should.

You can recover an image either way - it makes no difference at all.

 

If you feel either tool will revert back to where you want to be it's good enough for me.
No more research.

 

You will be amazed at how unobtrusive it is and how simple to use.

 

I'll get into it now that I am comfortable thanks to your patient advice.

 

Hi Bernie
I wanted to finish the thread I began. After looking at tutorials and considering the kind advice I've been given I have decide to use SandBoxie. It seems not to have any caveats and it very easy yo use.
I am using the free version and seems a good candidate for lower level users seeking extra protection.
Thanks again for all and Blessed Thanksgiing to you and the forum.
Peter

 

Horses for courses peter.

 

I had to look that one up and it is true. Is it a common British saying?
I was used to chacun au sons gout or chocolate an vanilla.
Tambien, hablo en Espaniol como mi otra idioma.