Router Advice

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Trik, Oct 12, 2016.

  1. Trik

    Trik Private E-2

    Looking for a wired gigabit 1 wan / 4 lan router.
    No wireless capabilities needed or wanted.
    My old D-Link (like 12 or 13 yo) died
    Using a borrowed TP-Link Archer C7 right now.
    Don't care for it.
    1) It has wireless that I can't find a way to turn off.
    2) I use MagicJack and when the computers are in sleep or off the router goes to sleep soon after and I can not receive or make calls.

    Things have changed a lot since I bought the d-link. A LOT more features, protocols, etc.
    Not sure what I need or don't.

    I surf, stream shows and movies, Gaming (WoW mostly) and the MagicJack.

    TIA
    Trik
     
  2. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Most any modern wireless router should have an option to turn off SSID broadcasting under the wireless settings.
     
  3. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Not sure what that has to do with the OPs question. Disabling SSID broadcasting only does that, it disables the broadcasting of the SSID. The wireless networking is still functioning 100%. It is just the name (SSID) of your network will not appear on devices looking for wireless networks. Anybody with a simple wifi scanner app running on any notebook or smart phone can still see your network. With most wireless devices, if you know the SSID, you can just enter it manually, along with the proper passphrase and gain access even if SSID Broadcasting is disabled. And even most novice wannabe hackers can easily determine the SSID if not broadcasted. This is why disabling SSID Broadcasting is not considered a security step (and never was intended to be).

    It is hard to find a basic 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet router these days. All I can find are "wireless routers" - meaning they have an integrated WAP in the same case as the router and 4-port Ethernet switch. But that really should not hold you back. The barrier/firewall between the wireless side of the network and Ethernet side is extremely difficult to hack without the router's admin intentionally allowing it. And even then, that in no way allows anyone to access any Ethernet connected devices.

    If the wifi side cannot be disabled in the admin menu, one of the easiest ways to block anyone gaining access or using your wireless network is to enable MAC Address Filtering. This allows access to only those devices with MAC addresses you (as router admin) designate in the admin menu access to your network. And even then they would still need the correct passphrase to get in on the wireless side. If you don't want any devices to access the wireless side of your network, don't enter any MAC addresses and don't give anybody the passphrase.

    Looking/searching through the manual to that Archer C7, I found nothing about it going into sleep or stand by mode. In fact, I have never heard of a router going to sleep or into standby. You can with most (if not all) routers, control access times, however. This feature is commonly used as a parental control feature. You say this is a borrowed router, perhaps the owner blocked his kid's access in the middle of the night.

    Having said all that, I just found on Page 18 of the manual where it says,
    So there you go.
     
  4. Trik

    Trik Private E-2

    Thanks.
    I'm going to try the magicJack GO in the 1st Ethernet port and put the computers to sleep
    Today I woke the computer connected to port 2 first and that didn't wake the router
    Waking the one connected to port one did.
    The MJ was in port 3

    In my experience even with features turned off some devices will still allocate resources to the off features. Even if it's just scanning the features to see if they're turned on.

    My latency to WoW more than doubled with this 10/100/1000 router over my old D-Link 10/100 router which never went to sleep.

    I did find these:
    https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-R...76355121&sr=1-2&keywords=wired+gigabit+router
    Don't think I need VPN. I haven't yet in life.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HXT8EKE/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
     
  5. Trik

    Trik Private E-2

    Looked for a way to edit my last post. Didn't find one.

    Tried swapping the MJ, that didn't work.
    I also found out that no matter what port it's in, one computer when in sleep mode puts the router in sleep mode.
    It's the computer I accessed the browser setup for the router.
    Not sure that's the reason why though...

    With Vid cards, motherboards, memory and even HD's I know a bit about and where to go look or ask for answers.
    Networking is different.
    Used to just plug in the old router and had to do nothing.
    Now all routers have all these features and protocols that I know nothing about or even where to go find out.
    On top of that I don't want to have to take a college course to select a router.
    Want one I plug in and forget like the last one.
     
  6. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    You only have a few minutes (something like 10 minutes or even less - and never if someone already replied) after submitting a post that you can go back and edit. But note editing is not always a good idea because those of us following the thread do not get notice of edit. So if you change something important, we may not see it. So it is best to make a new post anyway.

    It does not appear you read my post above. Your router is not going to sleep.
     
  7. Trik

    Trik Private E-2

    It's not sleep. I think that somehow the one computer is dragging the router down into a sleep like state.
    I can't find any setting in the bios that could account for it.
    Tried both LAN connections on the motherboard same result.
    Thing is my other computer uses the same motherboard but doesn't do this.
    ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3:
    http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z68 Extreme7 Gen3/index.asp?cat=Specifications

    As for the parental controls they're not in use.
    And I found an itty bitty slide sw on the back for turning WI-FI off
    Black on black with raised black lettering. With my eyes it was hard to see. Harder to read.

    I ordered the TP-Link Router
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007B60SCG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Hopefully it won't get pulled down
     
  8. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Same difference. It is not the router, but the computer. Note I did not say the access control feature would be labeled as parental control. It might be something else.

    And no, you would not find any setting in the BIOS for this. Computers don't control routers. Routers control computer access.
     
  9. Trik

    Trik Private E-2

    For some reason this computer, which has the same MB and built in LAN connections as the other computer is dragging down the router when in sleep or off. It kills all the lights. Everything else loses connectivity. This did not happen with the old router.
    But it may be the reason the old one finally broke.
    Because it behaves like a ground fault.
    Gonna try getting a new cable. The one in there is pretty old and brittle feeling.
     
  10. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    This would have been good to know in your first post.

    To be sure, you are now saying all the lights on the router go out? That is the power, activity and port lights all go out? Is that right?

    No, that's not a ground fault. A ground fault would cause problems all the time.

    It behaves like the router and computer are both plugged into some fancy power strip or UPS that has a master control outlet similar feature. This is a special outlet that kills the power to all the other outlets when it senses the connected device is turned off.
     
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  11. Trik

    Trik Private E-2

    And that was it. Plugged it into the first open outlet I saw without checking if it was a controlled outlet.
    rofl

    Thanks again
    Trik
     
  12. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    lol Well I am glad you got it sorted out. I note on the UPS I have that has such a master control outlet, there is also a switch on the UPS to disable this feature so all the outlets stay "alive" regardless the power state of the device in that master outlet. If you have such a switch, I would disable the feature. If no switch, I would cover the outlet with tape or one of those child protected covers, or plug a nightlight in there.
     

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