Security question

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by DOA, Sep 2, 2014.

  1. DOA

    DOA MG's Loki

    How many of you use easily identifiable/guessable information for log in, email or passwords?
    With the new iCloud breaches (not hacks as they just guessed the login and pass or used keyloggers) the internet has once again proven giving real life information is a bad idea. I am sure I can still be found, but I try to make it hard. If you are wondering what to do to remember your online persona, just make your own character in a small town in a game. Flesh it out with an address complete with zip code that is far from you. Having the same country is almost a must, but faking the time zone is almost a given. Create a Yahoo, gmail and hotmail accounts with this name and fake information. Use a password manager or get a programmable keyboard like I do so passwords can be stupid complex but easy to use. Keep the info backed up on your phone if you are like me and NEVER lose your phone.
    Be sure to ISP hop, it will save you $$$ and changing is not all that bad.

    Any other suggestions?
     
  2. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    We did an article about passwords a short time back and research has shown that the best password is a phrase. Trytoguessthispassword is likely to take 18 years to crack, whereas 3#7&*2!!1 would take about 3 hours.
     
  3. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    Define "easily". Which language are we talking about? ;)

    I believe this sums it up very nicely: http://xkcd.com/936/
     
  4. Spad

    Spad MajorGeek

    I always use phrases, numbers, and special characters in all my passwords, and not always in english or any other "official" language . . .

    Exactly! :)

    This is why Mimsy is a Superior Imperial Queen . . .
     
  5. joffa

    joffa Major Geek's Official Birthday Announcer

    Touche Tim ;)
    For me I have a favourite old electronics textbook and for important passwords I copy a short sentence from the start of a paragraph deleting all spaces and then swapping the letters e and i for 3 and 1 plus the first and last words are always in "all caps". Then for my hint I put either the page number or just the chapter number or name. The book is kept in my very large bookcase with all my other electronics books and I also have a duplicate book in storage just in case something dire happens to the one in the bookcase. Because I work in R&D developing new products, security has always been paramount so in the early days I got Steve Gibson from Gibson Research to check the password strength generated using this method and it got his highest rating. (FYI Now he has an online password strength checker amongst many other security oriented aps.) BTW I have no connection with Gibson Research other than as a customer ;)
    After receiving such a positive security report I have now been using this system for 20+ years and it really works for me ;):cool
     
  6. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest


    I developed and built my own password generator. Its one of the first programs I ever built outside of an educational environment, so its basic compared to what I know and do now. Its hosted here too :-D It would probably be nicer if the people I worked with didn't leave it solely to me to write from beginning to finish.

    Thats what I use.

    http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/kdg_c_password_generator.html
     
  7. DOA

    DOA MG's Loki

    GREAT input here, I will be spreading some new ideas around my RL friends.
     
  8. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

    I do phrases, sometimes with a number, sometimes with periodic capital letters (according to a system that makes sense only to me). My brain does things weird, so (for instance) if I start something like my social security number at the beginning I'll get it right, but if I try to come up with the last four digits by starting there I'll get them wrong. Which is how I choose my passwords; starting in the middle of a string of numbers or a phrase, because while the real one might be easy to guess, the one my brain decides it is will not be. It doesn't even make sense to me. LOL
     
  9. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    So phrases are better?? I had no idea and didn't see that article. Link?


    So weird! I was just looking this website up about 2 days ago because I saw his book (http://whatif.xkcd.com/book/) reviewed in one of my magazines. A great site.
     
  10. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

  11. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    I like the phrase way better. I use song lyrics or titles but change it up in a way I can always remember without writing it down. Like Tom Clancy's "Hunt for Red October" I'd use something like "Hunt4RedDecemberbecause Octoberis to easy to guess". I get 'good strength' for sites that show results and reject weak passwords.
     
  12. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    I realize I didn't actually answer the original question. I do phrases that are a mix of Swedish and English words, with a 1 in place of a lower-case L in one of the words. If punctuation marks are required I replace an i with a ! in one of the words.
     
  13. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    I just don't buy anything on the web that requires a credit card. Same in local shops. I'm old fashioned and pay by check.
     
  14. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    If I shop online, which is really rare these days, I use either Paypal or Bill Me Later (which is a paypal service now). Neither of which are tied to any of my banking or CC's. That way I don't worry about getting my stuff stolen.

    As for passwords, I have a few hard ones that I alternate for my banking, cc, and important stuff and a few not so hard ones (ones where I wouldn't care if something got stolen lol) for not so important stuff. It works well for me and my limited brain capacity for remembering passwords. :-D
     
  15. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I read that as, he doesn't locally either.
     
  16. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    The cc is for emergencies...and no one records the routing number off of checks.
     
  17. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    Damn...you Are old school. Do you have any credit cards? If you stay in hotels I think you need one.

    Oops...posted right after your answer.
     
  18. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    We don't go anywhere. And yes, we are old school. Two poor church mice. I think we used the cc once at Walmart when she forgot to bring the check book. Other than that, we just dont use it.
     
  19. Anon-9aee479f8f

    Anon-9aee479f8f Anonymized

    For over two years now there have been some stores in the Mall that will not take checks. If you choose to shop in those stores you have to have cash or use plastic. The reason is they say they got too many returned checks for insufficient funds from people. Sign of the times.
     
  20. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Yeah, like Starbucks. Cash or plastic only.
     
  21. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Target is a prime example. Both online and in store cc were stolen.
     
  22. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    The Dept.of health and human services Obama care server had malware dropped on it. The server was not supposed to be hooked up to the web. Nothing was stolen. And the malware was removed.
     
  23. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

    All the stores around here scan checks into the register, and don't actually deposit the paper checks. Which means account and routing numbers are in the electronic system just like CC numbers.
     
  24. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    True, dat. But nobody steals checks. Too difficult to print fake checks and try to cash them.
     

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