single file recovery

Discussion in 'Software' started by peterr, Apr 26, 2010.

  1. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    I have been reading about Win 7 and although i was told it has an imaging program, it reads as though the system restore has only been enhance
    Is there a true imaging program apart from system restore in which you can retrieve a single file?
     
  2. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi Peter

    You will have to let me check on the Windows 7 imaging option as not used it reciently but its not really a version of system restore, just cannot remember at this moment if you can browse the image .vhd

    What Windows 7 version do you have as not all have the imaging option, Ultimate, Pro and Enterprise, but all versions come With Backup & Restore in which you can grab single files out if the backup, but if I remember you also have Acronis True Image (or easeus todo) which will do what you want also, as you can browse the Acronis backup file and navigate to a single file, so long as you have Acronus installed on a PC that can be used to browse your backup location
     
  3. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    My two concerns are disaster recovery and single file recovery.
    I do have Acronis but do not like it b/c I have low level skills and need some rudimentary program.
    If Win 7 had an imaging program that was straight forward I would use it.
    The trouble is I have read a lot and it does not seem as though Win 7 has such an imaging program. I read about archiving and backing up but not imaging.
    Most of the reading has to do with system restore.
    I look forward to any information you have that points to an imaging program in Win 7.
    I would use Macrium if necessary as I have recovered my laptop with it twice and it is easy.
    The downside is that you cannot retrieve a single file if you compress so a back up takes twice as long.
    As I am in the process of lining up a new pc I want to get my facts straight.
    Thanx for your help.
     
  4. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    I think you will find this page helpful peter. W7 does do a full image, but you cannot restore individual files from it as you can with Acronis - you can only restore the full image. However you can restore individual files from a separate file backup.

    I tried it but was totally underwhelmed. You should take time to get to understand your Acronis program, as it is miles better than W7 backup.
     
  5. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi Peter

    @Earthling cheers for the link, was on a mobile when posting so links are a pain to do, was going to test it as I couldnt remember but your link says all, although not as feature rich as Acronis, Windows Imaging does work ok, but other free options do exist also that are very good, see 3rd paragraph.

    What version of Acronis do you have Peter as its really easy to use, looks more complicated than it is, I tought a few users how to use it, was in person but if I know the version (I have 2010 installed at present, but so have the last version also I could install) I will try at weekend a very straight forward user guide with screenshots for you.

    While Acronis is I would say the easiest (for me anyways) Easeus ToDo that I mentioned earlier will do this as well, it can image a whole HDD and then it allows you if needed to Mount the image as a virtual HDD so that you can browser and copy single files from it, then un-mount.
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2010
  6. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    As I read about Win 7, it seems to me you can restore a single file. It also appears to be imaging not just archiving.
    Am I reading something wrong?
     
  7. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    This is from the link I gave you -

    Windows Backup provides you with the ability to create a system image, which is an exact image of a drive. A system image includes Windows and your system settings, programs, and files. You can use a system image to restore the contents of your computer if your hard drive or computer ever stops working. When you restore your computer from a system image, it is a complete restoration; you can't choose individual items to restore, and all of your current programs, system settings, and files are replaced. Although this type of backup includes your personal files, we recommend that you back up your files regularly using Windows Backup so that you can restore individual files and folders as needed. When you set up scheduled file backup, you can choose whether you want to include a system image. This system image only includes the drives required for Windows to run. You can manually create a system image if you want to include additional data drives.
     
  8. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    >>Sorry about the quick reply I wanted to edit as I was asked which Acronis I have.
    It is Acronis True Image Home 2010 build 6.053.
    Macrium is my choice for the low level user altho you can't compress and retrieve a single file. You have to backup w/o compressing. That is the free version which I run on the laptop. The desktop has Acronis.
    If I paid I would get Macrium.
     
  9. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek


    >>Could you explain separate file backup?
     
  10. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    The things that rule out Windows Backup in my book are that you cannot restore individual files from an image, and that there is no bootable rescue disk that would enable you to restore a file backup either. You need to get your comp working again before you can restore file backups.

    Frankly, imo it's pathetic and should not even be considered as a backup solution.
     
  11. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    Windows Backup provides two different backup methods - a full system image which can only be restored in full, and file backup which allows you to choose which files and folders to backup. As I've said above, if your comp won't start you have no means of restoring files from a file backup. It's unbelievable but true.
     
  12. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    You could do from Backup and Restore, but thats not creating an image file, just a backup of specific and custom folders and locations, say your important saved files, images, docs etc

    With this backup you can when you click Restore my Files, browse (check the FAQ) the backup file you made and then choose specific individual files to recover over recovering all the files.
     
  13. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    >>The rescue disc is vital and b/c Win 7 does not have one I would not consider it either.
    Is a separate file backup similar to Norton's backup which holds your files or archives them in case you need them?
    I think Win 7 has two features from what I am reading; A-a full system image unable to retrieve single files and B-a separate backup of files which does enable you to recover single files.
    It has no rescue disc which renders it useless in case of disaster.
     
  14. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    peter, like Halo I'm a long time user of Acronis, and although even that has its faults it is without doubt one of the most capable and adaptable backup programs around. It seems its user interface has put you off, but if you are willing to confont it again we will do our best to get you going with it.

    Macrium is good too, but Acronis is the better.

    p.s. You should download the latest build of Acronis before starting to use it. As long as you have registered on the website all later builds are free.
     
  15. techsent

    techsent Corporal

  16. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    Hello
    I am not looking to recover a file now but thank you for the referral.
    I have used both Macrium and Acronis to locate and recover a single file and have done a system recovery with Macrium but not with Acronis.
    I think what I am saying, in a nutshell, is that the ease of a program is commensurate with the abilities of the user. Keeping that in mind, Acronis can do everything but fly, for low level users like myself it can be confusing. Right now I am using it as simply as I can but finding out issues each time I use it. Example, last week I noticed when you perform a system backup, unless you specify 'full' it is incremental, and not obvious unless you are scheduling. You can't know this intuitively.
    So, I do a one click backup each week, validate it then unplug the cable(safely) and backup the other pc with Macrium and validate it. I have a1T WD and a 2T WD so I guess I have enough room. I keep two backups.
    I have walked through scheduling but I prefer this for now.
    All the mounting etc was very confusing and I found I had no reason to get into it. At this point I can recover a single file and recover from disaster and that was my goal. I have the rescue disk.
    I am grateful for your offers to help and will avail myself of them stating with a question.
    Will downloading the latest build affect the backups I have already created?
    Regards
     
  17. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    No, definitely not, they are safe and recoverable. A tip peterr, no need to mount an image in Acronis. You can simply open the backup file by clicking on it in Windows Explorer and you can copy files from it just as if it was a regular folder. :)
     
  18. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    >>I will download the latest build I assume by going to the Acronis site.
    I will also retrieve a file as you directed.
    If I need to recover the system, I will insert the rescue disc after setting boot order then clicking on recover and follow the rpompts.
    I do appreciate the help along the way - thank you.
     
  19. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

  20. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    I have read and digested the referral.
    I'll beback for help when the need arises and thank you again.
     

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