SSD - Sata III and Sata II

Even though I choose not to buy build parts at Best Buy I was just looking at an SSD on their website. It is smaller in storage capacity than what I want but it is one of the reviews for that SSD that am I referencing in this thread. Here is the link I'll be referring to.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-850-pro-128gb-internal-serial-ata-iii-solid-state-drive-for-laptops-black/9426232.p?id=1219414548226&skuId=9426232#tabbed-customerreviews

Look at the 2nd review titled - 'The future in my PC...'

Now, for my concern. I just started researching SSD's in the past few days. Through my research I understand that Sata III will best function on motherboards supplying 6GBpS Sata. Then I find that Sata II SSD's are for MBs at 3GBpS.

The review that I reference above states that the laptop they put the SSD into is 8 years old. I would think that a laptop that old would not have a motherboard capable of handling the SSD Sata III. Maybe it would; I don't really know.

Nonetheless, can a SATA III SSD be placed into a desktop motherboard that is supporting only 3GBpS? If it can then I certainly do not want to consider buying a SATA II SSD especially when they seem to be higher in cost than III's. That 'II' vs 'III' cost observation comes from my researching SSD's at Newegg.com

Now - read the following question carefully - If a SATA III SSD were placed onto my ASUS P5nd motherboard (which handles 3 GBpS Sata max.) would a "SSD Sata III" function better than a SSD SATA II which is actually what should be used with my motherboard?

Thank you for any advice and education on SSD's.

Dekade

 

A SATA III drive may absolutely be put into a SATA II machine. My old ThinkPad has one in it.

It will run at around half the top rated speed, however. I top out at 275 MB/s read instead of the 530 MB/s I could top out at if it was SATA III.

 

Good info!

I installed my first SSD 3 years ago (Asus P8z77-v) and installed it into the 3g port-AARRGH!rolleyes

Got your low readings and thought it was defective, until I installed it in correct 6GB port and now get 580MB/s and on my new 840 256gb, I get over 650MB/s.:-D:-D

 

No. A SATA III SSD connected to a SATA II motherboard will run at SATA II speed. Likewise, a SATA II SSD connected to a SATA III motherboard will run at SATA II speed.

If you can buy a SATA III SSD for the same price as a SATA II SSD (shop around), get it. Your next motherboard will be a SATA III.

 

the mekanic,

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Thanks

 

Eldon,

Yes. I have been very surprised at how much less expensive a Sata III is compared to a Sata II (Newegg). Guess it's because the new motherboards are coming on so quickly.

I actually want to build another machine. This will be my 3rd full build. Financially I would like to just do the new motherboard maneuver in my current case to utilize the the power supply and video card. BUT, I DO NOT WANT to be without a computer for the build, setup, and OS install time. I also don't know if I can also spring for new Ram and a processor at this time.

Maybe I'll do the SSD now and just move it over to a new build when I get it done. However, I just thought - if I put the Win7 Pro OS on the new SSD for the current motherboard and then move the SSD onto a new motherboard I'd not be able to use the SSD because the OS license would be designated for my current motherboard and would not work on the new motherboard - right?

Here we go - decisions, decisions. Money, money.

 

Not true. About 4 years ago I had to buy a new motherboard, CPU and RAM. I had to repair Windows XP and then install the drivers for the new motherboard - onboard audio & SM Bus controllers. And everything worked fine. But, I had to re-activte Windows. Open Device Manager and look at all the devices. How many did you install? Windows automatically installs most of the devices, and many don't require drivers.

The motherboard manufacturers use different vendors for CPU (Intel or AMD), North and South Bridges, onboard Sound (VIA or Realtek), Graphics, LAN, WLAN, etc. If I invest in a new motherboard, I'll do a fresh install.

 

Yeah, that's kinda what I am thinking. It would probably be a lot quicker in the long run by avoiding possible errors by messing with the old install.

 

An afterthought...

Maybe you could hold out a little longer until you can afford all the needed components. Prices of SSDs are dropping and RAM is dirt cheap. And if you have a decent CPU that fits the latest Intel or AMD sockets, you can use it until you can afford a faster one.

PS I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate using a 1.8 GHz Celeron CPU, 3 GB DDR3 RAM at 667 MHz, and a 10 year old 80 GB IDE HDD! And I have Windows XP Professional on the other partition. It all depends what you use the PC for - gaming with my PC is not an option.

Good luck with your future build.

 

Yeah, I think the holdout is the way to go. I'm going to start making up a wish list.

Don't get me wrong - I'm actually pretty pleased with my rig. It is pretty dog gone fast. It's just that lately when doing some word processing, emails, etc. the cursor will hang up for a second and then type in the letters that had already been struck on the keyboard.

This part you'll really get a kick out of - 90% of my work is word processing and 10% is personal video and photo work. No gaming or big time rendering. I just like a computer that responds with the blink of an eye. Outlook opens in about 1 to 2 seconds max for example.

I am running Windows 7 Professional on an ASUS P5ND Intel motherboard SATA 3GBps. 8 MB RAM. A GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-Bit DDR3 video card. The processor is an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield Quad-Core 2.83GHz. There is a 1TB HDD; A 750 GB HDD, and a 400GB HDD.

The main things that aggravate me are the lately recurring delayed typing and the horrendously slow boot up. Those are the reasons why I'm thinking about an SSD Sata III for on my Sata II motherboard. Putting my OS on the SSD has to be better than the current OS being on my 5 year old 750GB Western Digital HDD.

So, that's where I'm currently at in my thought processes.

 

Your PC's specs put mine to shame. The slow startup and delayed typing doesn't seem right, not with those specs. An SSD will improve the startup time. But, in the mean time download and install WinPatrol. Take snapshots of the Startup Programs and Services. Ensure you check the box 'List non-Microsoft Services only'. Post them.

Also, I suspect something is wrong with MSO Word. If you have Microsoft Office Diagnostics, it's in the Microsoft Office Tools folder, run it. If it doesn't detect a problem, I suggest you repair Microsoft Office. I have no problem running MSO Word 2007 on my mediocre system.

 

Okay Eldon,

Give me some time to get your requests prepared. I will get back with you as quick as I can. Hopefully, in the next 36 hours. Thanks very much for offering to help run down these issues.

Dekade

 

Is the WinPatrol a safe program to download? Is the free version enough and sufficient? I always get kinda worried about all of these programs that I know nothing about. Hate to put out money right now for the Plus.

OH, I just ran "detect and repair". Nothing returned as an issue. Do I now need to run something else in MSO 2002? I am running MSO Word 2002 SP3 on WIN7 Pro.

 

WinPatrol has been around for many years. The free version is more than adequate for looking at the Services & Startup Programs, and to change their behaviour. Here's the link for the download from MajorGeeks.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/winpatrol.html

Microsoft has ensured older versions of MSO run on newer versions of Windows but, perfection is not guaranteed and MSO 2002 just might be a little too old. As I said, I'm running MSO 2007 on Windows 7 Ultimate on my basic spec PC, and I have no problems. I suggest you buy MSO 2010 Home and Student (Word, Excel and PowerPoint). Afterall, 90% of your work is word processing.

PS I will not be available until Sunday. Have a look at the Startup items & Services, especially the startup types of Services.

Example: Bluetooth can be set to start Manually, ie it will start when needed.

PPS Also have a look at WPS Office Free (previously Kingsoft Office). :wave