Star Sights and Websites

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by abri, Aug 8, 2006.

  1. abri

    abri MajorGeek

    Astronomy anyone?

    Guessing this pic came from Chandra, but I'm not sure.
    abri
     

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  2. Burning_Monkey

    Burning_Monkey MajorGeek

    My comp background is various images from Hubble that I rotate through. Very cool stuff.

    Right now it is the Orion Nebula. I think I need a new one after I finish up this current project though.
     
  3. abri

    abri MajorGeek

    Cool!
     
  4. Burning_Monkey

    Burning_Monkey MajorGeek

    I know what you are talking about, but it still sounds good that we are the geeks and wallflowers at the big dance of life.

    There is also a theory that the radation levels at the interior would be too high to allow 'higher' life forms to develop.
     
  5. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Anyone want to remark on the observation that our galaxy resembles the makeup of an atom ....as do many others ....and that maybe the universe is just an ant walking across the surface of a much larger reality? (Can someone get me a flashlight? It's kind of dark in here.):) :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  6. Burning_Monkey

    Burning_Monkey MajorGeek

    Not really. If you look at the star clusters around the center as the electron cloud the distribution is all wrong. The Milky Way is a flat disk with a center bulge. Even the smallest atoms have spherical electron clouds.

    EDIT: Here is a cool site that explains electron cloud and energy states better than I can.
    http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/elements_as_atoms/orbitals.html
     
  7. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    The question was philisophical ....not factual ....food for thought ....not a banana.:)
     
  8. Burning_Monkey

    Burning_Monkey MajorGeek

    I thought about enough to reply. Thus you succeeded.
     
  9. abri

    abri MajorGeek

    I hate remarking without my links in hand, but perhaps I will stumble upon it in the dark. (just give me the flashlight) There's a fabulous article out about the history of the galaxies and how they are changing shapes as they evolve. I will try to find it.
    abri
     
  10. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

  11. Burning_Monkey

    Burning_Monkey MajorGeek

    That is pretty neat.

    I withdraw some of my earlier remark. But with millions of galaxies to choose from, chance is bound to favor one of them looking like something.
     
  12. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Which begs the question (always hiding in the recesses of my mind) is there a populated world on one of the atoms within my body? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  13. Burning_Monkey

    Burning_Monkey MajorGeek

    God, I hope not, in my case anyway.

    I don't need any more of my body rebelling against me than already is.
     
  14. abri

    abri MajorGeek

    yes, and what would happen to it if there were and you took a bath? the great flood?
    lol
    abri
    (nice websites, btw)
    oh, and do you think the shapes might be similar because they are being created by similar designing forces, albeit in different dimensions (small/large)


    ooooooooo .. and this! cool!
    http://www.astro.washington.edu/balick/WFPC2/
     
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  15. abri

    abri MajorGeek

    I seem to like this style.
    :)
     

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  16. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Well, abri ....there are far too many examples (from my quirky mind) to enumerate, however ....teenagers and acne (blackheads) / exploding stars and blackholes ....uuuummmm

    as to the similarities of shapes ...physics would dictate uniformity through all dimensions from sub-atom to megaphysical ....crossing dimensional space may simply be a matter of shifting consciousness from the dimensional reality of our life on the atomic particle in our own body(dropping in on ourselves residing on an electon of an atom in our own body) to the consciousness that is real by way of the "atomic particulate" (the universe that we experience) in a "HUGELY" larger reality (dropping in on ourselves where our solar system is but an atom within our own body).

    .....I'm getting dizzy.

    Nice screen savers!!
     
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  17. abri

    abri MajorGeek

    <runs back to get a bigger flashlight>
     
  18. Burning_Monkey

    Burning_Monkey MajorGeek

  19. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    You're not thinking cosmic ....water (H2O) atoms in close (well, cosmically not so close) proximity to the atomic composite of your skin ...huge distances!! More like clusters of meteors passing by ....but you also have to take into effect not only size, but time ..so that "water" would be a part of the universe of those others for eons....if "our" universe is billions of "years" old ....then our body will live for billions of "years" for all those people living on an electron residing in your liver ...(well, guess that would depend on the person involved ....liver wise).

    Oh, my head hurts .....think my bulb is dying ....
     
  20. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    shes thinking lol :)

    I'v got a disaster drama taped that was on earlier tonight the perfect solar storm,if I recall what would happen to the earth if the sun ejected the equivalent of the earths weight in charged particles in one pulse :eek: sounds like alot but 1.3 milllion earths could fit inside the sun

    Get your suncream out! :)
     
  21. knothead2

    knothead2 Private E-2

    I love the fact we have a creator,pictures dont lie
     
  22. abri

    abri MajorGeek

  23. Natakel

    Natakel Guest

    Interesting link. I've always been mind-boggled by trying to imagine the size of the universe . . . not just the matter in it, but the void itself. It is something that can have no finite size - it must be infinite, and continue on forever (but in this context does "forever" have any meaning. How long has this infinite void existed, after all? Forever?) . . .

    I think I need to lay down . . .

    :eek:
     
  24. abri

    abri MajorGeek

    http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html

    If the universe began with a big bang (which probably wasn't a sideways one like the one at Mt. St. Helens), and if the law of inertia tells us that matter continues in the direction it's going in, unless acted upon by an outside force, and if observation tells us the universe is expanding, but not from a point of big bang but from every point, the obvious inconsistencies in this explanation must lie in the explanation itself. Can anyone explain this to me?

    <wonders vaguely... if her body is expanding at the same rate as the rest of the universe, then how come the jeans are not expanding at the same rate?>

    <g>
    abri
     
  25. ItsWendy

    ItsWendy MajorGeek

    Must be the gravitational constant <duck, cover>

    Try this analogy, where is the center of the surface of the earth. Taint any, the center is in the 3rd dimension, but someone who didn't understand gravity and the shape of the planet would swear we were 2 dimensional (mostly).

    We're not even close to the answers yet. You gotta love it.
     
  26. prometheos

    prometheos Staff Sergeant

    It is only slightly less painful if you don't imagine the "void" with size. The "void" has no size or shape - it is a language construct to try to represent the concept of "non existance"; nothingness. The nearest our minds can come to understanding this construct, is to imagine the size of a one-dimensional mathematical point. Once you're comfortable with the existance of that, you may be able to venture a bit further into "non-existance". Our brains usually betray us, however. We want to equate the void with space. As in space=void. However, space=does exist; void=does not exist. The majority of physicists, currently view "matter/energy" as the progenitor of "space". Without matter or energy, space does not exist ===> hence the mental construct of "the void". We talk of the "edge of the universe" as if there is a boundary between existance and the void. Well, no such boundary exists. There is only the universe and nothing more. The universe does not exist, "inside" the void -- the universe is both the inside and the outside and our solar system is at the centre. Actually, every other point in space, is also at the centre of the universe. So, Natakel, you are correct. This is as mind boggling as the human mind can stand. Beyond this point, lies insanity.:)
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  27. abri

    abri MajorGeek

    Are you talking about nihilism?
    abri
     

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