Static Routing on DI-604

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Dex Luther, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. Dex Luther

    Dex Luther Private E-2

    Is it possible to set up a static route using a DI-604? If so, how?

    This is a crude drawing of my current set up.
    http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/5913/compsgm9.jpg

    I'm trying to get File sharing to work between Computer 1 and Computer 2, who I lovingly named Lucy. Lucy and my xbox 360 both have complete access to the internet, but file sharing and access to the printer on computer 1 is non existent unless I play the wire-shuffle game.

    I tried calling D-Link Tech support, but the guy I talked to was lost the moment I mentioned static routing. Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. Mada_Milty

    Mada_Milty MajorGeek

    A few questions first:

    1. What operating systems are on the computers in question?
    2. Is it necessary to have 2 networks, or have you simply added the 604 in need of extra ports? If so, we can reconfigure the 604 to act as a switch, and put all machines on the same network, and eliminate the need for any sort of manual routing.
    3. Are you on a domain, or a peer-to-peer network?
     
  3. foogoo

    foogoo Major "foogoo" Geek

    Ok, the DI is a Dlink router, correct? What is the 6250? your ISP's modem/router?
    If that is the case you can't get file sharing to work in that configuration because the #2 PC & Xbox are on different networks.
    You need a setup more like ...
     

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  4. foogoo

    foogoo Major "foogoo" Geek

    We both said the same things you were faster because I was diagramming the thing out ..lol.
     
  5. Dex Luther

    Dex Luther Private E-2

    1.All computers are using Windows Xp
    2.Yes, the 604 was added out of the need for extra ports. The Speedstream 6250 issued by my ISP has 4 LAN ports and I have 5 devices in need of the internet.
     
  6. Dex Luther

    Dex Luther Private E-2

    I don't know and can't find how to do the reconfiguration. I looked through google shortly before having to leave and found nothing on reconfiguring a DI-604 to work as a switch.

    Your help would be greatly appreciated.


    My modem only has 4 ports and I have 5 devices. I had the D-Link laying around from before I got the networking modem.

    I have to use what I've currently got at my disposal because I'm kinda short on cash and I'm kinda cheap (why buy a hub/switch when I've got a perfectly good router laying around? lol).
     
  7. foogoo

    foogoo Major "foogoo" Geek

    Simply because routers define networks.. if a router did the work of a hub or a switch - it wouldn't be a ROUTER.
    if, BIG IF.. the ISP's modem will allow you to use all those ports, you could put a hub or switch off it and save the second router.. but *some* of those routers are set to only hand out 4 IPs.
     
  8. Dex Luther

    Dex Luther Private E-2

    As I said, my IPS's modem comes with 4 built in ports. I don't see why any ISP would issue a modem like that and not allow you to use all the ports, but that isn't the case here. All the ports are being used with no problems, except for the fact that I have too many devices and not enough ports, which is why I put in the router.

    As I said before I can't put a hub or switch because I'm on a tight budget right now, so I have to use what I have.

    I was told static routing would solve my problem, but I have no idea how it's done on my D-Link router if it's even possible at all with that model.

    Apparently I don't even have to set up a static route. Accoring to:

    I can reconfigure the router I have to ACT as a switch. I just don't know how to do that. I was hoping Mada or someone out there did.
     
  9. foogoo

    foogoo Major "foogoo" Geek

    The reason I brought up that point is because if you do get a hub and hook it up to the Speedstream 6250 may not hand out all the IPs you need. (more than 4).

    If you are that tight I can donate an old hub to you...

    Ok, last post since you want someone who can tell you hows it is done.. I am always willing to learn.
     
  10. Colemanguy

    Colemanguy MajorGeek

    Um not isps don't limit public internal ips, but would limit the wan ip, your useing a router to hand out internal ip addresses so thats not an issue. As has been stated your problem is your going through a router between machine 1&2, your gonna need a way to turn 604 dlink in a modem/bridged device so that all devices get a dhcp lease from the speedstream router/device. A static route won't help as smb isn't meant to go through routers (mostly). As far as setup the dlink to be a switch im leaving that to mada, as im not familer with that particular router.
     
  11. foogoo

    foogoo Major "foogoo" Geek

    I think you mean ISP don't limit private internal ips.The oppsite of public or external ips.
    But it has been my experience with the local DSL providers round here they limit the ips the routers hand out to 4, cable to 1... just something to look for during setup... just an FYI.
     
  12. Colemanguy

    Colemanguy MajorGeek

    Yes confusing wording, but when you have your own router how does the isp control that router? Of corse they aren't gonna give you many public ips, but its not like you need more then one public ip.
     
  13. Mada_Milty

    Mada_Milty MajorGeek

    Alright, I may be putting my foot in my mouth here. The reconfiguration depends on the router.

    However, all routers are switches. They simply perform a few additional functions. We'll want to disable these to turn a router into a switch. However, I mentioned this before I knew whether your router was capable of disabling these features, but chances are, you can. You'll have to check in the router's configuration pages for these features. If I recall the 604 as well as I think I do, these are in there somewhere.

    The first is NAT (Network Address Translation). This turns all your router's client machine's private IP addresses into a single IP for use on the internet. The 604 is doing this, and forwarding a translated address to your gateway, which is translating it AGAIN. This is generally a no-no. I'm surprised your network traffic makes it through that.

    The second is DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol). Client AND server functions. Essentially, we want to set a static IP on the router, as well as disable the DHCP service. We only want one DHCP server on the network to avoid conflicts and minimize traffic.

    Also note that the uplink (connection between router and modem) must go on one of the client ports, as opposed to any "internet" or other uplink ports.

    Recommend you take the device off the network before doing this. Connect a machine to it separate from the rest of the network.
     
  14. Mada_Milty

    Mada_Milty MajorGeek

    Once we get all the machines on the same network, we can follow the instructions in this Microsoft whitepaper titled, File and Printer Sharing with Microsoft Windows to configure the machines properly.
     
  15. Mada_Milty

    Mada_Milty MajorGeek

    They can't. However, they could set their own router to have an address pool of only a few addresses.

    I would advise setting all machines to static IPs anyway. This will reduce the amount of traffic on the network (DHCP is noisier than you might think), as well as facilitate disabling the DHCP client service on the machines, which would save some resources on the local machines as well.

    But, it's possible that I'm just being a meiser....

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