Text Messaging On Microsip

Discussion in 'Software' started by Silverthunder, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    MicroSIP is a software for voice over IP.
    Windows 8.1
    How do I have text message conversations using MicroSIP? I am comprehending how the application alerts me with the receipt of text messages. I see that I can enter a number into the Dialpad and then press the button for text message and then send a text message. But, if I exit and open MicroSIP the next day, I am not clear on how to view the text message conversation. Also, I am not understanding how to get the program to alert me if I have a new text message.
     
  2. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    This might help.https://www.microsip.org/

    Just looking for info.Never used this software.But it looks like you right click on the persons name to me.For a drop down box menu.Or click on contacts.
     
  3. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    I really combed through their website over the past couple of months.
    If you do have to have the person as a contact, that's a pain because not everyone sending me texts is on my contact list (happens very frequently for me).
     
  4. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    I am not sure on that one.Might want to contact software creator directly.Maybe there is some type of bug you have found and they don't know about it.Software like that all ways tends to have bugs in it's programing.

    And i saw all the bug fix's they have done recently.I am pretty sure not many majorgeek members use this software.This is the first time i have heard about this software.

    This software was made back in 2011.7 years ago.

    Trying to look up more info.
     
  5. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    Maybe ask them how they are sending texts.I am not finding much info on this software.
     
  6. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    Thanks for trying to help. I got myself worked up about VOIP software and VOIP companies (been struggling with them).

    With a lot of free open source software, there is very little opportunity to get help. They just want to write code, nothing else. Sometimes they are interested in helping other developers piggyback off their software in building shinier applications (Linphone, for example).
     
  7. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    Turns out, the problem was mostly phone provider related. I finally emailed the phone provider saying that I want to talk to the owner or I am cancelling. Literally 5 minutes later, I start getting text messages from the last few days (pops up). However, I don't think you can see a text message history for numbers that are not on your contact list (once you exit the software).

    Many (most?) of these residential voice over IP companies are terrible, either in support, price, policy, or all of the above. Unbelievable.
     
  8. ionEyes

    ionEyes Private E-2

    Hi there...

    MicroSip is based on PJSIP, a general VoIP library.
    Having worked with PJSIP code I can tell you its a pretty mean feat getting anything working with it.
    Its quite complex, but that's not its fault, or the developers. Its just a complex thing to do.

    Getting to the point though, MicroSip does try and handle txt messaging.
    I'm not sure about the newer versions, but it should be moving to a better implementation over time as PJSIP becomes more capable and easier to develop with.

    VoIP ought to be easy for the user, but admittedly, it can fall short.
     
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  9. ionEyes

    ionEyes Private E-2

    If you have a specific issue, please do msg me. Either privately or in the forums - especially if it will help others.
    You are in good hands with MicroSip.

    Best of luck with it.

    *** I personally love VoIP. p2p VoIP I think is best as a residential user.
     
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  10. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    I really like having the software on my computer. No need for any phone at my computer desk.
     
  11. ionEyes

    ionEyes Private E-2

    The Dev's here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/blackbeltpriv/ ...
    ... use a custom build of MicroSip.

    It is good for residential users behind NAT capable routers. The 12 ports required for use are configured auto-magically for you.

    You can try it for yourself. Share with friends and enjoy HD Stereo with HD Video calling...

    Tech Detail:
    The custom version has a built-in uPnP library. The library was customized before use. That library threads 2 control and 4 media VoIP signals through your network to the outside world. It does this for both UDP and TCP packets, depending on the mode you choose. Thats 12 ports configured for you.
    The 4 media control signals allow you to have a call running, take another call, then route the new caller, before resuming your original call. This behavior is also custom, thanks to the media signals.

    There is very much a desire to apply full security to the Customized MicroSip, for TLS secured sessions (calls).
    Ultimately though, VoIP providers ought to be taking user security more seriously and consider ZRTP for establishing secure channels for VoIP.
     
  12. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    I am trying to set up a different VOIP software right now, called Ekiga.
    I just installed the software and the software is telling me that I need to manually set up port forwarding. 1) I'm not clear whether I really need to configure that, since I have a VOIP provider; 2) Would I have to involve my VPN provider in that process (or perhaps need to switch VPN providers)?
     
  13. ionEyes

    ionEyes Private E-2

    Hello SilverThunder,
    If the port your new VoIP software needs is different from the older one you already have, then you do not need to setup port-forwarding again.

    If the ports vary between the products, then yes. You do need to setup port-forwarding for that product.

    What ports does your VPN provider allow ?

    If its unfettered access over your VPN then all ports to / via that VPN should work for you.
    I am not sure how your VPN handles incoming packets on varying ports ?
     
  14. ionEyes

    ionEyes Private E-2

    Should read:
    Hello SilverThunder,
    If the port your new VoIP software needs is NOT different from the older one you already have, then you do not need to setup port-forwarding again.

    Maybe I should have just said, if the ports of both products is the same, then no need to change port-forwarding.

    @Me: Repeat 100 times...
    I must Keep it Short and Simple...
     
  15. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    Some of the software, Ekiga for example, seems to claim that I can use it with multiple VOIP providers. In other words, I can have multiple companies that I buy voip service from, and use the service all in 1 software. However, I notice that many settings in the software are not tied to 1 voip account/provider. Instead, these setting seem to be tied to all use of the software. In Ekiga, there is a page where you can select from a long list of audio codecs. If I select let's say 6 different audio codecs, because one voip provider uses 3 of those and another voip provider uses 3 of those, do you think that will still work ok?
     
  16. ionEyes

    ionEyes Private E-2

    Mmm... thats one 'issue' with VoIP. When the call comes into your VoIP client, a negotiation takes place to establish the call.
    Part of that is the codec choice.

    You do need to be careful about your choice of codecs.

    I have tended to stick to only a few for this reason. Not only can you specify differing codecs, you can change the order they get negotiated in too.

    Its very hard without knowing your providers details (prob best not shared) to then advise further.

    But.... certainly check codecs, protocol (tcp / udp / security - ssl/tls). A correct combination of those should help.
     
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  17. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    Interesting. I did not realize that you could specify what order you want for your chosen codecs. But, now that you mention it, I did find it strange that you could arrange the order of the codecs in the 2 voip programs that I have installed.
     
  18. ionEyes

    ionEyes Private E-2

    The codec order takes part in the negotiation. I think both sides 'offer' their capabilities and the SIP takes over and tries to complete the call.

    So, the type of codec and their order presented to SIP do matter.... which is a shame in some ways, but does make sense.
     
  19. ionEyes

    ionEyes Private E-2

    Hey @Silverthunder, I should have told you that the MicroSip at the official download site does not do uPnP as far as I am aware.
    They recently made all ports run inline to make this easier for users.
    You will need to manually open the correct ports to have a hope of a connection.
    Also, because of this, you may need to use STUN to 'get your IP' to the call-party.

    All this is solved though for you and made automatic below...

    There is 'another' MicroSip... here : https://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortname/proxy.html
    BlackBelt Privacy DOES have a MicroSip that talks to your router over uPnP to configure it automagically....

    With support for multiple accounts, you can have one for relatives and one for business as an example...
    Or one for Residential use, one for commercial VoIP use.

    Hope that helps !
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2019
  20. Anon-469e6fb48c

    Anon-469e6fb48c Anonymized

    Good thing.I never heard of this software.I did as much search for info as i could.
     
  21. ionEyes

    ionEyes Private E-2

    hey @wile e coyote: The original devs could put some more info on their site to make calls easier.
    Its not unknown for 2 people to download MicroSip and never be able to call eachother, while they both try and configure it.
    A great shame because MicroSip is true thru & thru- p2p VoIP software.

    That is... there is no central server, unlike snyke, flyke or spike or whatever its called ;) + others...

    You can call anyone on the planet with a url that looks like this: sip:x@<ipAddress> : <port>
     
  22. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    Thanks, I will have to look into the software that allows for multiple accounts. Right now, I have multiple VOIP providers because I am trying to decide which one I prefer (features, call quality, price, software supported). The MicroSIP download site seems to be able to support multiple accounts, but each account has to have a lot of similarity (audio codecs, source port, RTP ports, use of stun server). Also, I don't think that you can be in "receiving call mode" of multiple accounts at once.

    One of the things that's annoying about the software is that you can't easily manage your text history, it seems to essentially get erased frequently (basically whenever you close the program).
     
  23. Silverthunder

    Silverthunder Sergeant

    The voip companies each "insist" on certain audio codecs. What I mean by this, is that when you tell them that calls are not working properly (audio problems, calls disconnect right away, etc), they start telling you what settings to try. They also say things like "we made some adjustments." The companies don't seem very insistent on a specific set of settings upfront, and instead more navigate the waters/ "play it by ear." It almost seems like things depend on who you are calling. In other words, they are making recommendations based on who you are calling.

    Several of your posts in here, I think, are on a slightly different topic. That is, when you are doing a call without access to actual/all telephone lines. With that there are multiple "flavors"-- end to end encryption (yes/no), is there a middleman server (yes/no).
     
  24. ionEyes

    ionEyes Private E-2

    Lots to consider and answer here. Will have a go.
    I agree on all counts here.
    You can have multiple accounts, but not in use at the same time. Each account will have a lot of similar information. They will likely vary by codec and ports. STUN is used to 'reflect' your IP to your call party. You may have to use this depending.
    RTP ports in the main product I am sure are now set to run in-order. They were all over the place initially, making router setup a pain.

    MicroSip persists your call history and contact information. It doesn't persist your chat history. That's to say it could do in future.

    The fact you are having this problem with the companies is a shame. They ought really to publish the configuration that works.
    Over time, more VoIP solutions may converge on a set of common codecs. This is happening already, but the list of common codecs is still too large - which causes setup head-ache.
    Over time, older formats could get dropped in favour of say... opus as one example.

    I should have been clearer here.
    When using a VoIP provider, you will encounter security possibly, and there will be a middleman relay, likely some VoIP server. That will be handling many calls potentially.

    It is possible to call:
    Pc -> STUN -> Pc, or
    Pc -> router uPnP setup -> Pc.

    With the uPnP solution just needing your ports opened on the router. Your router uPnP will store your public IP.
    Sip then uses that for the call.

    MicroSip can output debug information to indicate what is exactly going on, but I struggle to interpret it.
     
  25. Ginny LaneBosley

    Ginny LaneBosley Private E-2

    Does anyone know how in the hell to begin a conversation on this forum???
     
  26. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Select the sub-forum and at the top right click Post New Thread.
     
  27. Ginny LaneBosley

    Ginny LaneBosley Private E-2

    I'm sorry but I'm old but not too blind..and I know my way around a computer pretty well...but I see NO "sub-forum" or "Post New Thread".??? I filled in password confirmations early on in this sign-up process and after one of the "type password here ", I got a message that a "code" would be sent to my email....that was 4 hours ago.??? Getting on this forum HAD to have been created by a total GEEK with little common sense. Sorry, hope I can still find a way to access the forum since I have a major dilemma on my laptop. Thanks..
     

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