The High Performance PC

Discussion in 'Software' started by mark59, Mar 30, 2015.

  1. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    I don't know enough about computer hardware and software to diagnose faults and adjust settings for optimised performance. I know software exists to help with these things but I suspect unless you download something that works well you could create more problems than you solve. I'd like, if available, a program that can check my PC and ensure it has no faults and that's it's running we'll. I don't just mean something that finds and deletes junk files, missing shortcuts, traces you leave but which checks Windows to ensure there are no problems and which can fix any problems detected.

    1. Does any software exist that does what I want?

    2. If such software exists what would you recommend?

    3. If you've recommended something what do you think is good about it? Why do you recommend it?

    4. I'd also like to know about program's I should avoid.
     
  2. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    I completely endorse your feelings about system tweakers sometimes causing more problems than they solve, but there is one that I run on all the computers here with very evident improvement in performance and no resulting problems at all -

    http://www.tweaking.com/content/page/simple_system_tweaker.html

    However that alone won't ensure your system has no faults - there isn't any software capable of that - but the two most important considerations are the integrity of your windows filing system and of your windows system files. Both can be checked by utilities built into Windows -

    chkdsk - open an elevated command prompt and type chkdsk c: /r where c: is your operating system drive.

    This will check that every file and folder on C is correctly indexed and that any files making use of disk sectors which don't pass 100% are relocated. It can take quite a time to run but it's worth the wait.

    The system file checker - open an elevated command prompt and type sfc /scannow

    This checks that every Windows file is in its correct version and attempts to correct any that are not. Software sometimes replaces your Windows files with a different version, but for a completely stable system that isn't desirable.

    Elevated command prompt (win 7) - type cmd into Start, right click cmd.exe and Run as Administrator.

    Elevated command prompt (Win 8.1) - right click Start > Command prompt (Admin)

    It helps if you always provide at least basic info about your operating system when asking for help.
     
  3. Doofus

    Doofus Private First Class

    I second Earthling's endorsement of Tweaking.com, system is definitely snappier after application.
     
  4. psco2007

    psco2007 Master Sergeant

    Wow - who knew?

    Didn't know I had a problem - now pages loading instantly.:wave
     
  5. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    I downloaded and ran Tweaking. I did the system file check. It said it found problems. Where’s the best place to start a thread on that and post the CBS log generated.
     
  6. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    OK, this is where the hard work starts. Work your way through THIS tutorial. I'm assuming Win 7 but you still haven't said which.
     
  7. psco2007

    psco2007 Master Sergeant

    @Earthling - Sorry to get off track.

    After downloading the program, everything is great.

    Just a quick question : PC now runs 10 degrees cooler, which is great.

    Is this just a coincidence, or did one of the tweaks somehow contribute to it?
     
  8. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    I think I might be losing the plot.

    I definitely wrote a post with the OS details. I've been through the entire thread and it's not there. Anyway, the PC in question runs Vista.
     
  9. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    Because I don’t use Win 7 (I have Vista) on the PC I searched Microsoft’s own website on how to use sfc. I then went to use it. On Microsoft’s website I only found a list of commands that could be typed in. Perhaps I did it wrong because I received the following error message: “You must be an administrator running a console session in order to use the sfc utility”. I am the administrator and set as such; therefore, I don't now why it's saying this. I also attach a screen print of the error message. I got into command by typing the letters ‘cmd’ in to the Run after pressing the Start button.
     

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  10. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi Mark,

    Like others I don't advocate all in one tweakers, although some parts in some that the tech geeks would recommend are worthwhile, the tweaking.com one is one created by geeks for geeks, so not like the snakeoil that others are that want to charge you to fix issues (if an app really finds 1000s of issues and wants to charge you to fix, check what its finding as in the main they could just be old files, cookies etc that are no major issue)

    AS to an all in one diagnostic to predict issues, then sadly not that I know of, the in build checks that where posted above are in Windows and work well,

    A CBS log will have loads of innocent references in it but if you attach the text file as below I'll have a look.

    Did the system file check say it was fixing the issues so on reboot and if you run it again do you see the same issues mentioned?
     
  11. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    @musksnipe: Thank you. I never thought of that. I'm going to take up DavidGP's offer to look at my log first. I'm wondering if Tweaking has discovered something harmless.

    @DavidGP: Thank you Daivd. I've attached the log as a zip file because it was too large too attach as a log file. I opened it when it was created hoping it'd be concise and state clearly any obvious problems. There's no point me trying as it just is too much info which I understand not.
     

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  12. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    You didn't need to think about it mark as it is exactly what I said you should do in #3, and I also went to the trouble to explain what an elevated command prompt was and how you invoke it. Am I wasting my time here?
     
  13. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    @Earthling: I apologise if I have upset you. I do value your assistance and that provided by everyone else here. I'd completely forgotten that post. I'm in the middle of trying to juggle about 10 different tasks all at once. I hope that goes a little way to explain. I don't offer it as an excuse because doing so many things simultaneously is my choice. If you choose to offer no more advice I shall understand. I will, however, miss the sage guidance you've offered me on innumerable occasions.
     
  14. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    I don't throw my teddy about mark, but I'm busy too so was a bit disappointed after putting a lot of thought into #3 to realise you weren't following it through and certainly not paying any attention to the article I linked you to in #8 which would have answered all your questions about the system file checker and enabled you to correct all the reported errors. It's not enough to post logs and hope someone here will study them and drop all the answers in your lap. Sometimes you have to graft a bit yourself.

    End of rant.
     
  15. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi Mark

    Yes I would run the check apps that Earthling mentions from an elevated CMD prompt as I just wonder if tweaking also needs to be run elevated (run as administrator) as the errors in the CBS log seem to point to not being able to move/repair some WinSxS files as that would be a location needing admin access,

    I would run the windows built in tools that Earthling posted as I think quickly the errors you gained are not significant.
     
  16. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Even if it didn't state that it was going to fix on reboot, you can still reboot and run it again. And reboot and try it a 3rd time :)

    There's also a tool called SFCFix that might help, it takes ~15 minutes to run through it: http://www.sysnative.com/forums/win...posting-instructions-post35484.html#post35484
     
  17. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    I feel a little better now because you didn't read one of my posts. I looked at the article to which you signposted me. I knew that it was advice for Win 7 and I have Vista (which you didn't know at the time). Because the site was called Seven something I knew it wasn't going to have a solution for Vista. I then did a search myself on Microsoft's website.

    I posted the log because DavidGP offered. I was waiting for him to get back about it because it might have turned out that Tweaking had found something that was innocent.
     
  18. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    I'm going to try that now. Thanks for looking at the log. It didn't run on reboot so I'm signing off to try the elevated CMD.
     
  19. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    The article applies to SFC /SCANNOW rather than to 7 or Vista and applies to both OSs, though I accept you wouldn't have known that. If you are serious about correcting your sfc errors you should still follow it through.

    EDIT sorry JoeRay, I hadn't seen your post when I posted that.
     
  20. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    I have completed the scan. It reported, “Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files but was unable to fix some of them. Details are included in the CBS.Log”.
     
  21. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    @DavidGP: I've been working through the guidance that Earthling kindly provided. I've reached the point where I've run sfc three times as the fix recommended. Although it doesn't recommend this I ran it a fourth time in Safe Mode because I wondered if it might work in that Mode.

    All four attempts haven't resolved it. I ran Tweaking both in Administrator Mode as you recommended and in Safe Mode as Tweaking recommends. Again no fix.

    I've reached the point where I will have to use the Windows CD and run sfc at boot up. If I only had that to do I'd do it. Trying to prioritise things I want to ask you, as you looked at the log, if the issues are safe enough to either leave alone period or to do at some later date or whether you'd recommend I got them fixed ASAP.
     
  22. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    HI Mark

    I would get the sfcscan.txt file as JoeRay12 mentioned and attach the file so we can look further.
     
  23. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    Please find attached SFC Details Log in txt format.
     

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  24. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

  25. mark59

    mark59 MajorGeek

    Thanks satrow. I'm going to look in to that. It's useful when you get genuine help. I do appreciate it.
     

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