Thermaltake VA3000

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by slipONflange, Sep 2, 2004.

  1. slipONflange

    slipONflange Private E-2

    I am building a new PC and am look for a case. I was wondering if anyone has this case and what they think of it. I have read some good things about it. I also like this case. I am looking for a case that has good air flow and is not too loud.
    Would love feedback and advice Thanx slip.
     
  2. Anon-15281db623

    Anon-15281db623 Anonymized

  3. Rob M.

    Rob M. First Sergeant

    Thermaltake is a popular "name" right now, but I haven't had occasion to use their products. But that's a big case at 19.5" high, which can make life interesting finding a place to put it. The 90mm side fan would also worry me -- so far as I know, that's a non-standard size. Are you going to be able to replace it when it dies?

    The use of 120mm fans front and back is good -- you can move more air with them without making a lot of noise. But make sure that the front fan can draw air from outside the case easily. Also make sure that the baffling around the front fan will keep it from sucking case air into it. Otherwise, all it will do for you is stir the air inside the case, which doesn't do much for getting heat out.
     
  4. ASUS

    ASUS MajorGeek

  5. goldfish

    goldfish Lt. Sushi.DC

    90mm is standard. Might be a little harder to find than 80 or 120, but it is still standard.

    Ideally you need to use an intake air-scoop to get air from the outside through a duct, but this isn't possible using standard flat-fronted designs. A good compromise would be to cut through the steel casing, make a grill in the front fashia and have it drag in air that way.

    That said, intake fans are less important than exhaust. Getting a negetive air pressure isn't ideal, but much better than positive.
     
  6. Rob M.

    Rob M. First Sergeant

    I haven't seen any around here. Oh, well -- live and learn, I guess.

    Quite so. AMD's recco for case design is 2 exhaust fans for every intake fan, and I think one can assume they know what they're doing. The idea is to get the heat out, not the air in.
     
  7. ASUS

    ASUS MajorGeek

  8. goldfish

    goldfish Lt. Sushi.DC

    If air were solid (this is hypothetical!) and passive movement did not occour because pressure or density was neutral inside and outside the system... then you would need two fans of equal power and speed to move the air through the system. If one of the fans were taken away, no air would move at all.

    Since air is a liquid (or at least acts like one) rather than a soild, its density (or pressure) changes. Negetive pressure will cause the movement of air into the case from a greater pressure area (outside).

    However this intake is passive, and as such there are limitations to the ammount of air that can be moved in this way. There is a certain ammount of pressure that is required for the airflow to be sustained at an optimum, anything above or below that causes in-efficient airflow (not enough air is being moved either because the air isn't being taken out by the fan, or because there isnt sufficient pressure to bring enough air into the case)

    Which is why you need to facilitate an intake fan, and so the AMD reccomendation. If you have two exhaust fan, the pressure will be too low inside the case, so you need an intake fan. Of course it all depends on the size of the case, the shape of the case, etc.
     

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