Two 'Thilly' (silly) ??'s tonight ...

1. Installed a new mouse today (a new Logitech Optic [HID-compliant??] from the original MS PS/2 ball-type). SHOULD I UN-install the original Dell mouse somehow from the PC (as opposed to the simple "Hot-Swap" that I already performed)?? Something tells me that the info from the older/different style mouse needs to be purged/removed from the system.

2. Are the SIMPLEST instructions to be had/found for setting-up Outlook Express (email account) on this PC going to be had/found within the PC ("Help") itself? I haven't dealt with Outlook in YEARS, but I vividly recall almost having nightmares about trying to get it set-up with the old Dial-up connection, "POP3" or whatever the heck it was. Had to know exact names of incoming/outgoing (servers?), ports, etc., etc., etc. I think it has to be "tied-in" to/with our ISP here (?), but now this PC has DSL, and well ... ? Is there a "simple" method for simple 'ol "grc123"? I've been using Yahoo! & Hotmail (web-based) email accounts for years, and, well, they just sort of 'set themselves up' as most of you know.

Thanks in advance ...

 

ok, thank you on the OE info!

And on the mousey-thingie - no probs - everything working just "fine n' dandy" , I was just "POST-Curious" (as I so often seem wont to be!).

Should I try to go CP>Mouse>? and then try to uninstall from there - or would that be too easy (simple!)?

Thanks again ...

 

as for the OE question-

Get Thunderbird!

It is available on the front pages...

Mozilla Thunderbird - [2008-05-01 | Freeware | 6.43 MB | Win All | 62452 | 4.58 ]
A mail client based on mozilla that "plays nice" with the browser.

 

I have migrated back to webbased gmail myself....

 

Ooops! Naturally I spoke (typed) too soon.

The new mouse (and now that I think about it, I suppose protocol dictates that I take this to the "Hardware" Forum??), but anyway, for now - the new mouse is not allowing me to "wake" or bring the PC out of "Stand-By" mode. I tried changing it in CP>Mouse>Hardware>Properties>Power Management - to no avail. There, it's showing BOTH "mice", and when I highlight the new one, it seems to take the "change" or "setting" to "Allow this device to bring the computer out of stand-by" - but it in fact won't.

I'll try a thing or three here if need be to see if I can remedy this - and will post results.

And thanks for the T-Bird reminder (and it goes to logic: what else would a "kestrel" use but ThunderBIRD anyhow??)- I did use that a few years ago and realize that it's somewhat similar to OE, yet safer/more secure - I'll give it a try - after I RE-read Kestrel's instructs!

 

I say this in the "nicest possible way" (heehee) - perhaps it's the 'bAlAnCeD DiEt' causing that?? :-D

 

Re Mouse, I leave my old one installed - my logic being if for some reason my current one dies I can just plug in the old one and function again. I have a one backup mouse per PC. They very seldom go bad, but has happened at work once and home years ago. I have never had a problem with leaving the old mouse software installed. Best bet, leave the mouse alone, it will not bother anything.

Re Outlook Express or Thunderbird it's best to get the settings from your ISP, each uses different settings and change them periodically.

Example of ATT Outlook Express settings:
Your Email Address: Incoming (POP) Outgoing (SMTP)
Feline@.... pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com
Incoming mail server: POP3
Outgoing mail server: Outgoing server (SMTP) requires authentication
Incoming mail port #: 995, secure connection (SSL) checked
Outgoing mail port #: 465, secure connection (SSL) checked

If you follow the format and check the right boxes it's pretty easy. If you want help with this you can tell us your ISP and we will try to find you a easy guide or walk you through it.

Also if you download mail, best to have a antivirus that scans the mail, think you have Avast which does so, but make sure it's turned on: Right Click Avast Icon > On-Access Protection Control > Internet Mail > High

Just a thought... my personal mail is left on the web, if it's something I need I download, but 99.9% of it I delete from the web. Mail just accumulates like garbage if you don't take it out daily and once read it's usually useless to me. If you get a lot of jokes and such best to create a web junk account and let friends send to that, when you have time you can look on the web and your pc is not cluttered with junk or infected by it.

 

Ok, nothing working on the mouse uninstall (tried all suggestions). Something interesting though - both mice showing as using the same diver files (the same two files for each mouse), but he new mouse is showing a different version of one of the files?

Is that interesting, or am I (still) an id-iot!?!

 

guessing you missed this post...leave the mouse alone

 

Thank you very much - all very good info.

The only thing about the mouse situation is (and I, like you, was thinking the exact same thing - 'leave the old mouse info on the PC - just in case ...), but the problem I'm having is that since the "Hot Swap" of mice I did today, I cannot seem to bring the PC out of Stand-By" mode, which we have grown quite accustomed to having/using what with multiple (two) users, we just leave the machine on during the day, but while "walking away" from it for any length of time more than, say, 15-20 minutes, taking (extended) breaks, happening to get involved in something else (uh, such as "Life"), you know - we put it into stand-by (or I think it goes/we have it set to go automatically after 20 minutes, I think) - so, I'd really like to get that feature back (hopefully it's saving a little on the electric bill and public resource consumption as well ... sort of like a little "Green" button/switch).

Thanks again, and in advance ...

 

Sorry don't mean to be dumb here but you're typing on it so it must have come out of stand-by?

 

Correct, it did "come-out" of stand-by - however, it would not come out of stand-by via the mouse, but rather by having to bump or push the power button briefly. The power light was FLASHING/BLINKING (as it does in a low-power state such as stand-by), but "normally", or used to be, for years up until the "changing of the mice" today, we could wake it (bring it out) simply by touching/moving the mouse.

 

Ok got it, did you test your mouse in the Control Panel under Mouse to check click settings etc.?

 

yes - to no avail ... (?) It is still listing the first (the Dell) mouse (the original ... the one that is disconnected, and in the drawer now), as well as the new one. it reports the original mouse (device) as "working", and "plugged into PS/2 mouse port" - which is no longer the case.

But there seem to be no other issues except for the loss of ability to come-out of stand-by, via the mouse, which again, is something I'd really like to remedy.

 

Reinstall the New Mouse...think you did something when you went poking around

^ my new favorite technical term

 

Hah - yes, I've been known to "poke around" all right!

Anyway, I agree, I think maybe having done the "Hot Swap" (a term I just recently learned here) may have created a (the) problem.

Probably won't get to it tonight, but I'm going to try an uninstall/reinstall of the new mouse, by tomorrow morn., and try restarting the machine between the two - short of any other suggestions here ...

Thanks again (to all).

 

~~***UPDATE***~~ "SEMI-Success"!!!

Ok, apparently some settings in CP>"POWER OPTIONS" had been changed (back to "default"??) upon switching/changing MICE. Only difference now is that I have to "Click" the mouse rather than simply bumping or moving it ... likely as it is an OPTIC device rather than the latter BALL-type. Though I am CERTAIN that I tried this before (clicking rather than just bumping/moving it), the difference MUST have been in the defaulting to the original POWER OPTION Setting(s).

I do STILL have the problem with not being able to select "smilies" "B"/"I"/"U", TEXT Color, among other function issues - but that is not the fault of the mouse, but rather, I suppose "something" else (add-on/extension, or whatever, though I don't understand that, as I've not "added" anything lately (that I can recall) to FF - though there have been "Updates" to what I've had all along - and what had worked well-enough.

I wonder if the NEW KEYBOARD (also changed/added within the last several days) could have anything to do with it?).

Thanks, and again, please disregard most of what is below.
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Please disregard "MOUSE" issues of the original message below.




Well I guess it's like they say; "the more things change, the more they stay the same ..."

1. I Shut the PC down.

2. Unplugged (disconnected) the new mouse.

3. Re-started the PC (surprisingly, to me, the pointer was still showing on the showing on the screen - though of course I could not access/move it with no mouse device attached [though I'm sure someone will come along here and inform me otherwise - that it COULD have been moved by pressing some keys/controls or something??]).

4. Shut the PC down again.

5. Connected the new mouse (Logitech Optical HID-Compliant), this time while the machine was "Off" (as opposed to the "Hot Swap" yesterday).

6. Re-started again.

7. The old mouse (Original Dell PS/2 ball-type) was/is now gone from CP>Mouse>Hardware (only the new one is listed there now to "configure").

8. Alas, all configuration is possible and working EXCEPT for the one we've been trying to address in this thread. PC still will not "Wake" or "Resume" or "Come-out" of Stand-By via the mouse ... only by touching/bumping the power button (obviously I suppose, I AM able to select, and go into "Stand-By" mode by selecting Start>(then choosing from three options)>Stand By/Turn Off/Restart ... by selecting Stan By, I then get the FLASHING/BLINKING "Power" light [in the center of the power button]).

Oh well, perhaps because it was/is not an expensive device ($15 from Dell online after $2 discount) it's not going to do what I would like for it to do (which the tired, 6 year-old, 1st Generation mouse DID DO??).

Seemingly defeated, yet again ...

PS - and still unable (intermittently! ... off & on) to select "smilies", "B"/"I"/"U", etc. (?!?)

 

mice/mouses seem to have a mind of their own, i have an EDNET lazer office mouse that on my laptop worked perfectly but when i switched it to the desktop (connected to the mouse input) it would not behave and do the things it was supposed to so i played around with it (un-install:install:use the install disk) but all to no avail, just out of curiosity i connected it via a USB2.0 and it works perfectly.