Ubuntu_Karmic_Koala.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

 

Why are you providing links to what can be had by going to their website?

Respond soon, there is a decent chance that one of the mods is going to remove this thread.

 

Ditto^.:confused Anyways, %20 of folks are having problems with this release. I wouldn't download anthing from rapidshare, esp a freely available OS, who knows how clean this is even if it is clean.

 

Link updated. There is no rhyme or reason to providing an rs link.

 

@auggie

Check out Linux Mint Helena. IMO, it fixes a lot of the shortcomings of 9.10 and is more elegant. I had less wireless issues in it as well.

Mind you...they still include less drivers than 9.04, but they aren't open source (the ones I need), so, I can somewhat empathize.

 

Thanks Adryn, I might give that a shot for the heck of it as my 9.10 install was good, mind you it is installed in a VM and has run stable 24/7 for these last few weeks. They also updated the nVidia drivers so my screen resolution is now spot on.

 

I'm running Mint Gloria right now, and I really like it. (No wireless issues!) More detailed feedback on Helena would be intersting.

 

Gloria is fantastic.

Well, not a lot of feedbck just yet, as I haven't reinstalled it yet. I took the oppurtunity for these four days off to do some housecleaning on my laptop.

So--things I noticed better--MORE USABLE. Slab brings a whole new level to usefulness in Gnome menus. You already knew this with Gloria though.

Better artwork. Ubuntu has no excuse for this.

Better working restricted drivers manager. I had to beg and plead for it to come up in 9.10, but Helena popped it up immediately on first boot. Of course, I still needed a wired connection for my wireless drivers.

9.10 gave me wireless connection drops every few minutes. Helena never dropped once.

Better update manager that describes importance of updates.
Nothing new from Gloria there.

1 click install with .mint files doesn't seem to be working yet in the Helena RC. At least, not for me.

 

Thanks, that's helpful feedback so far.

Yes, Gloria is fantastic. I think it's using restricted wireless drivers on my laptop, but it installed them without any prompting from me. It offered me a list of connections, took my passwords, and connected me almost instantly. The wireless adapter is listed as using restricted drivers though.

I also fully agree on the artwork. Ubuntu is one of the ugliest distros/OSs I have ever seen. In Mint on the other hand I am still using one of the included wallpapers and the default menus, and it's both good-looking and easy on the eyes.

Keep it coming, I'm very curious about Helena, but at the same time reluctant to move away from Gloria as long as it is working 100% for everything I want it to do. If it's not broken, and all that.

 

I agree.

 

I take back what I said earlier, there is one thing that absolutely is not working in Gloria: Suspend and resume from suspend. Since I run it on a laptop, I would love to get that working, but it just can't. Whenever resuming, it leaves the monitor turned off, and I have to do a hard reboot to get back into the OS. Very annoying. Any progress on that in Helena?

 

Well, I am sure our hardware is very different, but suspend is working quite nicely for me.

 

I would not be the least bit astonished if it is different. I run Gloria on a Compaq nc4010 laptop. For the record, everything except suspend-resume works great. I looked it up in their wiki before installing it.

 

Worth a shot if you have free time. Note that Helena is still RC1.

 

Oh my, I can hardly run a stable edition of distro let alone an RC. Hehe, you forgot that I'm a n00b with hardly any of my own resources to fix things. I barely know terminal so far!:-D

 

Its a pretty polished RC, hehe. I've not noticed any glaring issues, aside from what I already mentioned

 

Well, I had already grabbed it by the time you you mentioned it was an RC. I may as well try it now as I've lost the B/W for the month.

 

Google is your friend. The rest of us are not that smart, only patient. :major

 

I am smart, and not a patient :-o

 

I take it back that we missed you!


:-D

 

Well, Helena has been promoted from RC1 to officially stable release. Downloading the iso now... I will test it with my laptop, and if it can resume from suspend I will probably switch over. I'll let you know.

 

Sweet. Hey, let me know if they changed up the artwork and if one click web installs work?

 

http://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/helena/helena-fresh.png


One Click? Do you mean apt-url ?

 

No. Mint has its own mint installer that works like Suse. You download the .mint file that opens with mint installer and it installs the application.

 

Interesting that Friday night, KK decided it did not like any Broadcom card plugged in for wireless.

The "center stage circle of friends" is beyond description with ugly. It is past ugly.

Maybe I will download and switch the laptop to Helena. I used to run Gloria on it anyway. I have gotten used to menus at the top again though....

 

The installer works great in Gloria.

My Helena liveUSB refuses to work. Grrr. I've still got the iso, and I know the USB itself works, as does the port, so I will work on it later, and see if I can force it to obey me properly. After I have finished the next chapter or so in my new game.

 

Use Unetbootin.

It works ok that way. It will take the ISO and make it a flash drive version.

 

I always use that when making liveUSB versions. Problem is my laptop won't recognize the USB as a bootable device. It worked great on the same USB stick when I was using Gloria, so I think I probably just messed it up while setting it up.

Starting over, with a freshly formatted USB stick.

 

Yeah I am retrying it as well. First shot, came up as no bootable partition.

 

Second try still a failure. GParted says the partition is bootable, however, the laptop doesn't even see the plugged in drive in the BIOS or in the boot menu. I can access and use it just fine from the Mint desktop though. Weird.

I'm going to wait on this for now, and test the liveUSB in other systems tomorrow to see if it does the same in other computers or not. Bleh.

 

Make sure you arent formatting the flash drive as exFat.

That was my problem. I downloaded the 32 bit version. :mad

 

Nope, fat32. And the right version too, as far as I can tell. I need the 32-bit one for this laptop anyway.

 

Weird. Mine wouldnt boot, but it was because it was exFat. I noticed the second time around, unetbootin took longer to finish.

The first time, unetbootin flew through to the finish.

 

I checked in Gparted again, and it's definitely Fat32. I think my iso is messed up, so I'm going to get another one, from a different mirror. Stay tuned! LOL

 

Good luck :-D

Their site is flooded. I am debating if I want to install the 32 bit version, or hold out for the yet to be released 64 bit. I noticed that the 32bit version installs a pae kernel. So, it probably wouldnt hurt to go 32 bit

 

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8027/screenshot1.png

 

Tease!

That is a very nice wallpaper though. One of the included ones?

 

Sadly, no. I got it from the artwork bookmark they have in FF.

 

I am happy to report that one click install works

 

Epiphany with the webkit engine is just dead sexy.

 

I didn't notice this until now, and now I'm really confused. :confused Are we talking about the panel with the Mint Menu and clock and all that stuff? I have mine on top... it lets you change it in the panel properties if you right-click.

 

Haha, I knew when I booted in Mint8 live you would post this! I knew I would be looking to customize Firefox and so did not use it at all, simply started the install process.

Reference to Mint default on the bottom and Gnome on the top.

Thanks for the right-click reminder.

 

Defaulting the menu at the top of the screen is one of the things I really like about Ubuntu. XP just can't do it right... it adjusts the wallpaper as if the menu was at the bottom, so parts of it are blocked out. More importantly, it adjusts application windows the same way! Uuuuugly! :mad

I do love how easy Mint is to work with. There's a lot to be said for an OS that installs in less than 20 minutes and where everything just works and is non-ugly.

 

and is non-ugly.

That bears repeating.

 

Well not all worked perfectly. First boot on the old hardware (Dell C840 beast) gave black screen..... /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "NVIDIA" to "NV" we have been there before.... I change it and reboot about 8 times...... nothing. It dawns on me that Ubuntu was the 10GB sda1 and Mint was in sda6..... I was changing the wrong file.

Removed all instances of broadcom and bam I was online with no prompt to wait to install restricted drivers. The Atheros card arrived today from NewEgg ($6.99 and free shipping) and I have 4 bars.

Remove Ugly was welcomed.....

 

Yep, it was the iso. Took the USB drive to work, plugged it in and rebooted, and vroooom... lots of terminal error messages when I tried to boot the live iso. Apparently a liveUSB does't work if it's missing several files from the image. Imagine that... LOL

Recreating liveUSB for tomorrow.

 

Will It Blend?

 

The problem is with my laptop. The liveUSB boots in other computers but not in the laptop. It's a very old one, so I can't say I'm surprised, but I'm a little sad I can't test out Helena on it, or install from the liveUSB.

I am looking into how to upgrade from within the OS, but I'm very hesitant to do it... if things go wrong I might not be able to reinstall. The smart course of action is obvious. My inner geek is very badly tempted to go the interesting route. LOL

 

You couldnt pay me enough to turn off acpi on a laptop. Can we say....no more battery life savings that are worth a damn?

Also, thats irrelevant to the issue at hand. Mims has an issue with USB, not Linux.