Upgrade For Onboard Graphics

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by mjnc, Nov 14, 2018.

  1. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    I am considering an upgrade for my onboard graphics and want to get some advice before the sales begin.
    Currently I have a Core i3-4330 CPU. At some time I plan to upgrade to a Core i5 or Ryzen 5 Zen+ or Zen 2, in which case I would need a graphics card anyway.
    I want something that is at least a little better than the UHD 630 that is in the current Coffee Lake processors.
    So far, I have never done any gaming, so that probably is not a consideration.
    Since I'm not a gamer, I've never been knowledgeable about graphics cards and the various series and model numbers.

    Based on the research I've done, I'm looking at these two cards:

    EVGA GeForce GT 1030 SC 2GB GDDR5 Passive
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073VPKV2...olid=2DLZB8GMJONNX&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

    Gigabyte GV-N1030OC-2GI Nvidia GeForce GT 1030
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07646VQ6T/ref=psdc_284822_t1_B071JV26GH

    I'm leaning toward the EVGA passive because it's silent and has one less thing to fail or go wrong.
    My case is a Fractal Meshify C with two intake 120mm fans at the front and one exhaust at the rear.

    What suggestions would you make?
     
  2. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    (A well setup Ryzen 5 2400G should be in the same graphics ballpark as the 1030 GDDR5.)

    Some fan placement experimentation might be needed to optimise cooling for the passive 1030.

    Check the card output matches your monitor.

    Don't fall for a 1030 (or any graphics card) with lower than GDDR5.
     
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  3. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    First, understand your options are limited by what your motherboard supports and for starters, if your current board supports the Intel i3, it surely will NOT support any AMD processor. So Ryzens are not an option with that motherboard. Check your motherboard's CPU QVL (qualified vendors list) on the board's website to see which CPU that board supports.

    Second, understand graphics cards are often the most power hungry devices in our computers. So before you select and especially before you install any upgraded graphics solution, you must ensure your current power supply will support it. So do your homework and if necessary be ready to buy a bigger PSU with your new card.
     
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  4. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    OK. Thanks, satrow.
    I have looked at the Ryzen 5 2400G, but I don't consider that enough of an upgrade considering the total cost.
    Even the Ryzen 5 2600 is a substantial jump above the i3-4330 (as is the i5-8400) and is still only 65W TDP.
    Neither of these cards has VGA output, but both of my latest two monitors have DVI connections, which is what I use.
    Thanks for the tip about GDDR5.


    Thanks, Digerati.
    I am fully aware that my 5+ year old Intel based ASRock H87M will not fit any of the new CPUs.
    I have already tentatively picked out a couple of ASRock (H370M PRO4 LGA 1151) and MSI (B450M Bazooka AM4) boards.

    The power draw of the GT 1030 is listed as 30 W.
    My current power supply is an EVGA Supernova G3 550 watt, which is a year old.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LWTS2UL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I got it expecting to possibly get a more hungry CPU and maybe a graphics card.
    I hope that will be sufficient. What do you think?


    I am primarily interested in what you think about the differences between these two graphics cards,
    and whether you would recommend something else.


    I don't need any of this, since my current system works fine.
    All of my computers have been either middle or upper entry level.
    Since I'm seventy years old now, I think I can treat myself to something better.
     
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  5. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I think that is a nice, fully capable PSU. I happen to like EVGA gold supplies and have one in this computer now.

    I also use Fractal Design cases in most of my builds, including this one. My experience is they are excellent at suppressing fan noise so not sure picking the EVGA card because it is silent really matters. No fan ever failing is nice - but of course, that requires good case cooling. And you have that too.

    That said, I agree with satrow and think you would be happy with integrated graphics since you don't game. Just get a nice supply of RAM. I recommend 8GB, 16GB if you get a nice price. If you stick with integrated graphics, you can use that money towards more RAM. And for sure, going with an SSD is the way to go - especially if you want to treat yourself (at just a couple years behind you, I understand the feeling).

    One last thing. In terms of Windows licensing, a new motherboard constitutes a new computer. And that typically requires a new Windows license to be legal. Only full retail licenses are legally transferable to new computers. OEM (the most common) are not under any circumstances.
     
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  6. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek


    Thanks to you and satrow for your sensible suggestion, Digerati. I've decided to stick with Intel and integrated graphics - easier and cheaper.
    I already have two SSD's with a multi-boot setup. One for Windows and the other for two Linux distros.
    I still have questions about choosing a CPU and how to salvage my existing Windows 10 installation.
    Those belong in different threads.
     
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