video card help

hi guys I just bought a new video card (nothing flash) for my computer, xp pro. I took out the existing G Force 2 MX and put the new one in G Force FX 5200(AGP slot). But the computer does not detect it, i tried to install it using add hardware wizard but it is never found, does anyone know why this is happening?? I have made sure that it is pushed right in and clipped in, also tried installing the software then uninstalling the software but still nothing, any ideas??

 

please anyone

 

I've got a couple of Geforce FX 5200 cards and never had a problem with them. Have you tried to re-install the old card and see if that still works?

 

yes the old one still works

 

Sounds like you may have a bad card. Can you RMA it?

Just a thought - it doesn't have to be plugged into the power supply also, does it? None of my 5200's do, but you never know . . . different manufacturers and all. Also, was the first card an AGP type (as opposed to PCI?).

 

what is RMA it??the first card was also an AGP. It doesnt have to be plugged into a power supply

 

I'm going to assume that when you ran the hardware wizard you were using your new card correct? If the was the case, then your card is working, and most likely, all you need to do is update your drives and you're set to go. Just visit nvidia's site and download this driver.

 

I was able to install the software but still cannot get the hardware. when i run add hardware wizard it comes up with this:

This device cannot start. (Code 10)

 

The 'add hardware wizard' is basically for installing drivers. If you can plug the card in, and install the drivers from the executable file I linked, there is no need to go through the wizard.

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If you still have problems, you can download and run Driver Cleaner which is available here. Just run the program and delete your nVidia ForceWare drivers, Nothing else. Then reinstall the latest drivers from the executable I linked to above.

 

i am downloading the driver now (dial-up- SNORE), does it matter that when i plug the card in it doesnt show up anywhere(including device manager or a pop-up when i start up)?

 

After you plug the card in and install the correct drivers, the card should be listed in device manager under the "Display adapters" section.

 

ok yeh its under display adapters but has a yellow exclamation point

 

Sorry for the delay - I'm actually supposed to be working (shhh, don't tell anyone - lol)

RMA means "Return Merchandise Authorization" and mainly pertains to online purchases. Most retail outlets will allow you to return items just by bringing the item in with a receipt. But if you purchased this card from an online place you will (usually) need to do an RMA to return the item.
Sorry for the confusion - I tend to buy all my computer stuff on-line, and have taken to using the acronym RMA for any and all purchases, online or not. (i.e. . . . . "can you take it back to the store?").

One thing you might try - uninstall the 5200 card and make sure the copper contacts are clean. Also make sure the AGP slot is free of dust and debris. My MSI StarForce FX5200 cards only support 4X and 8X AGP slots . . . does your AGP support at least 4X? You can check this in BIOS.

As always, whenever messing with the innards or parts thereof, MAKE SURE the power is off, power cord is unplugged, and you are using a grounding strap from your hand to the frame of the computer - or, just keep touching a part of the frame from time to time. Static electricity can kill components.

Good luck.

 

Now that I have a few mins - do this - and I assume you have verified your AGP supports 4X and is enabled in your BIOS (most BIOS setting can be accessed by repeatedly pressing the "Del" key while the computer is booting up):

If you are running another OS apart from a version of Windows XP, go to the nVidia site and download the drivers recomended for your OS. Make sure you remember where you saved it. If it needs to be unzipped, do that.

Since your PC is at least displaying something, go into "Add/Remove programs" and look for any video drivers, and delete them. Be it the new ones or the old ones from before.

Restart the computer. If you are running XP, you shouldn't have to worry about loading drivers for the card. XP comes with a generic nVidia driver that will work fine with the Gforce 5200 - I know, I just replaced Win98 SE on one of my PC's with XP, and the default drivers work fine. You can change this later if you want.

If you are running something other then XP (like Windows 98, ME, etc.) the found new hardware wizard will try and find drivers for the card. Cancel any screen that pops up, and windows will load a generic MS driver. When that is done, locate the driver file you downloaded before and install it.

If your AGP is enabled and supports at least 4X, and if you have selected the correct driver for the card in question, then this should work. If it doesn't - then it sounds like you have a bad card. Since you told me earlier that your previous AGP card still works normally, I think we can rule out a problem with your motherboard.

Anybody else have an idea?

 

i downloaded and tried the driver install that overcooked instructed but that came up with this message:
the NVIDIA setup program could not locate any drivers that are compatible with your current hardware. Setup will now exit.

i uninstalled all video drivers and restarted but it only found the integrated video card.

I noticed my old geForce2 card and my new GeForce 5200 card go in different motherboard slots. They are both AGP but the GeForce2 has a sticker on the box that says PCI local bus, is this of any significance??

 

When using your new card, try to get into the BIOS (usually press 'delete' key at start up) and disable your integrated graphics. Windows might be bypassing your new card entirely if it is detecting your on board graphics first. I'm not entirely sure on how to disable the on board graphics with your motherboard, but it shouldn't be more complicated than a few settings in the BIOS. Be very cautious however, if you screw something up in the BIOS, you could risk disabling something that you didn't intend to.

If both cards go into different slots, and the box for the GeForce2 card says PCI, then then your old card would have been running an a PCI slot, or the white/grayish slots on the motherboard. The 5200, if AGP, would go into the brown AGP slot in the motherboard located above all the whitish PCI slots. It's important to make sure you are putting the cards in the right place.

 

OR.

Uninstall all drivers, from add/remove programs.
Reboot.
Go into device manager, uninstall the yellow ! triangle thingy.
Reboot.
download driver cleaner pro:
http://majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=3214
And remove ALL instances of nvidia

To double check that ye don't have any nvidia junk laying around, next:
Click Start, then Run, then type in: cmd (press enter).
set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1 (press enter).
start devmgmt.msc (pess enter).
next, within device manager:
Click Show hidden devices on the View menu in Device Managers before you can see devices that are not connected to the computer.

Make sure that no nvidia device is present.

Reboot, install the drivers ye downloaded, or the ones that came with the cd.

 

ok i will try that.

how do you check that the AGP slot is enabled
I know how to get into BIOS but I dont know what to look for

 

Typically, if one were to insert a video card, that has onboard, video. The mobo, will switch to the inserted card, without any bios changes. Change typically, to always.

The only change is the initial video from (onboard to AGP). But, this will only decrease boot time by a few seconds (i.e. 1 or 2).

 

in BIOS i went into primary VGA BIOS
in there was PCI VGA card, AGP VGA card, and Onboard VGA (which was enabled)
I switched to AGP and saved, the monitor automatically switched off so i pluged it into the Video Card slot and it turned on(for the first time)
but it started loading the computer up with the black screen checking BIOS but then when it normally goes to the window "window" it stays on a blank screen and does nothing

 

Switch it back, to what it was before. It being the bios defaults.

 

it is switched back but says there is no video card attached how do I enable AGP slot

 

Remove the AGP card. (while the power is off). Insert the video connector to the onboard video connector. Boot the machine. Does it work?

Shutdown the pc.

Re-insert the agp video card. Connect the monitor into the agp slot. Power up the machine. Does it post with video?

 

I inserted the monitor connector into the onboard video and it worked,
then i turned it off inserted the AGP card and inserted the monitor into the AGP card and the computer booted up but the monitor did not turn on, I switched the monitor on manually but still nothing happened.

 

plus since i got the new card whenever it is in the computer will just restart at random times sometimes im doing nothing and sometimes im in the middle of a bunch of things, i cant quite figure it out

 

Does the card need to be connected to the power supply? Check to see if there is a four pin molex connector on the card. If there is, make sure it is plugged in.

Also, what's the make and model of the motherboard? And you have taken your old MX card out of the case as well right? You're not trying to boot the computer with both cards in the motherboard?

 

yes the GeForce2 card is removed.
no it doesnt need a power supply
the motherboard is an ASUS X seriesP4S533-MX

 

Try this. Go into the BIOS switch to AGP. Plug your new Card in. But leave the monitor attached to the onboard graphics. Boot windows, then go to the display properties, then to the settings tab there will be two graphic cards listed. Highlight the one you want to use and then check the Use this device as my primary display check box. The screen should go black. Switch the monitor cable from the onboard graphics to the AGP card and the monitor should come back on.

 

I did this but in Display Properties it/Settings it only listed the onboard card

 

I was reading about your motherboard and it seems a lot of people had problems switching between the integrated graphics and a card. I guess there are settings in your BIOS where you have to set the Clock speed and memory speed for your graphics card and make sure AGP is enabled. Try searching around for that.

 

POWER-UP CONTROLS
AC-Power loss Restart - Disabled
Wake/Power up on Ext. Modem - Disabled
Power up on PCI Device - Disabled
Power up on PS/2 Keyboard - Disabled
Automatic Power up - Disabled

ADVANCED

CPU Speed
manual
*2400MHz*

Memory frequency
*Auto*
200MHz
266MHz
333MHz
400MHZ

OS/2 Onboard memory > 64m - Disabled

Plug & Play O/S *NO*
Yes

 

I had a look and that is what i came up with

 

Looks like the settings you copied down are your standard settings for your memory and CPU. I did some reading around and people were mentioning that you can set your clock speed, memory speed, agp speed, and other video card settings somewhere in the bios, and this was the only way they could get their agp card to function.

 

I did some googleing and this is what i came up with

12-05-2003, 12:37 PM
Oded S. Posts: n/a

P4S333 doesn't work with Geforce 5200 or any AGP x8 cards!

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The Asus P4s333 motherboard has a serious problem when it comes to
graphic cards that has agp x8.
you can all read the problems mentioned in the link below:

http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showth...threadid=54274

I personally tried 5 different cards and NONE worked! This is totaly
insane. The cards were:

Gainward geforce fx 5200 128 ddr agp x8
Gainward geforce4 128 ddr agp x8
ST Lab geforce 5200 fx
Palit Daytona geforce 5200 128 ddr 64-bit agp x8
Palit daytona geforce4 128 ddr agp x8

Asus claims the problem is with the low power supply from the psu
(mine was 300watts), but other users, as you can see from the link
above, have power supplies of 400+ watts, and it still doesn't work!
the problem is the chipset. the SIS 645 cannot deal with these new
graphic cards, and no new BIOS version is in sight.

This is all they had to say about this issue:

 

Does anyone know where i can update my BIOS?

I only have BIOS ext 1.0A revision 1004
I know there is at least ext 2.3 but im not sure where to download from

 

The information you pulled up pretty much says the same thing the sites I was reading were saying. If you want to update your BIOS, go to the ASUS website and check under downloads. You'll probably have to enter your motherboards model number and it should bring you to the right page.