Wal-Mart

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by TimW, Jun 21, 2006.

  1. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    OK, on a slightly more serious note ....
    Does anyone "know" ....not hearsay or urban legend .... any situation where Wal-Mart has "contracted" with a company, which geared up to handle the demand, only to have Wal-Mart cancel the contract and effectively put them out of business?
    I know that when I had the photography/camera shop, we sold darkroom chemistry and paper, then Wal-Mart started selling it also, and I was "told" that our local Wal-Mart was the only one that sold that merchandise (in our community).....no other stores outside of our community carried darkroom items.
    I'm in contact with a company that the aforementioned situation is happening to, and would like to hear any "documentable" experiences.
    PLEASE: Do not post any replies ( I don't want to open MG's to any form of legal harassment). PM me only!!
     
  2. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

  3. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    LOL why not?everyones opinion on here is their own if we link to anything even if it severly slanders walmart its legal as anything on the internet is in the public domain

    There been quite a few threads slagging off wallmart on here theres nothing wrong with that certainly from a legal standpoint,one of my great uncle relatives had his own shirt factort,a company over here called Burtons did the same thing,they started with small contracts that payed well, kept upping and upping the order he cancelled all his smaller contracts lost favour with his his regulars customers then the orders just stopped BOOM factory gone...
     
  4. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Last time ....to be clear ...I do not want to open MG's up to any legal hassles ....one doesn't have to be "wrong" to be taken to court and face legal expenses.
    I am in contact with a CEO of a large national corporation that is scared sh*tless after having the their contract broken by wal-mart ...a company that is clearly in the "right", but facing doom due to the legal strenght that wal-mart can bring to bear....so imagine for yourself the turmoil that could ensue if someone wanted to just F**k with you/MG's. No one "pays you back" the hundreds of thousands after defending yourself and being exonerated of the "charges".
    Probably shouldn't have started this ....(going to have to learn to keep my big mouth shut someday before I die...)
    Please PM me!!!!

    @Rikky ...PM me with the details, please.
     
  5. TheDoug

    TheDoug MajorGeek

    There's a difference between posting opinions in a public forum and publishing confidential details of a business relationship or contract between two private parties in same. Of course, divulging details of that business relationship, even through PMs, to unrelated third parties, also likely violates that same trust. Soliciting accounts of specific "documentable experiences" probably would be putting those who would supply them at risk of litigation as well.
     
  6. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Been refering to "broken" trusts/contracts ....would agree with you if the upshot of a "settlement agreement" entailed non-disclosure...But,I, or anyone, certainly can discuss with anyone I wish any result and details of any suit that I have partaken in and won or lost as long as there is no gag order or non-disclosure agreement.
     
  7. infoseeker

    infoseeker Master Sergeant

    but MG has also legal rules and regulation here (i think)
    that all opinion from members of MG, MG is not liable

    am i correct
     
  8. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Dont think we mind, Wal-Mart is discussed often, we are not responsible for what you post, we just moderate for porn, spam, swearing, pirated software and the like. Where we might step in is if the thread turns to people insulting each other.
     
  9. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    If MA says it's ok ...then.....
    I will like to talk to you, regarding my case with Wal-Mart. Always is good to know more about their attitude and to listen to more opinions. My telephone is my name is Jacob, and I am the president of Pallet Truck kingdom Inc, and we was supplying Wal-Mart with Pallet Trucks. They cancel the contract, and we are facing big problems in our obligations and in our business existence.
    Waiting your call
    Jacob Werba
    CORPORATE CEO
     
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  10. acejones

    acejones A Different Title

    i sure as heck wouldn't have posted a phone number in a public forum...
     
  11. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    I wouldnt either, thats his call, we do, however remove emails because posting them publicly leaves you open to massive spam from spiders just looking for that.
     
  12. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Works for me ....Thanks MA. :) :)
     
  13. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Its one of those strange situations in business that are impossible to prove either way,it is always bad idea in any business to take an order so huge if it falls through the business will end up on the rocks,unless your already on the rocks as you dont know how long that order will keep coming in or wether it will go through in the first place

    What you would need to prove is that walmart has financial incentive to want you actively out of business,if they take you out of business will they be worse or less well off,taking away the competition from your suppliers is very bad business sense as the competing pallet firm could charge whatever they want it would be hard i would guess for you to prove otherwise

    It mostly comes down to the contract "dont agree to anything that isnt in writing" also make sure wallmarts getout clause isnt too easy,I'm not sure who's responsibility this would fall under within your company but they are to blame,all the golf rounds,brunches and hotel stays arnt a valid contract,you should have had a lawyer go over the contract,if there wasnt one in the first place,well...
     
  14. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Rikky ...agreed, but I think the scenario is more like "let's make a long term contract with XYZ company, and after they invest in materials, facilities and employees, wait for a while, then pull the plug and invite them to sue us ...they won't have the extra capitol to pursue a long term legal fight, will have to go into liquidation, then we buy their assets and end up owning the company so that we've effectively cut out the middle man."
    That, I believe is the "preditory" allegations about W-M's
     
  15. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    See what you mean,surely then it would be the America vs walmart not vs your pallet comp as they are infraction of the law by breaking a legally binding contract :confused:
     
  16. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Exactly ...but they have the legal power to forestall in such a way as to make the "wronged" party run out of resources before it ever sees a jury.
     
  17. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    WalMart is not alone in that. The tradition of large companies crushing small businesses and even individuals in court with delaying and other tactics has been around for a long time.

    The original inventer of the Weed Eater was an individual, that had it patented, then presented it to a large corporation to produce it, wanting royalties for their sales. Common practice. Large company looked it over, but didn't make him any offers. They then turned around and produced it themselves, with no mention of the inventor and nothing given to him. He took his patent to court to defend it, and found that a patent only gives you the right to sue. The company broke him with legal expenses, and ended up having their own way. That was back in the early 70s IIRC. Hasn't gotten any better that I can see.
     

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