We are the 99%

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by the mekanic, Oct 5, 2011.

  1. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    I've been involved with speaking out against "Wall St." for many years. Lucky to have a job, and a family business that is squeaking by, I was too caught up in my own survival to come up with something like this. However, it may never have been the "right time", until now.

    http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/


    This one has struck me the most, of all I have looked at so far:
     

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  2. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Another that caught my eye.

    :mad
     

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  3. grc123

    grc123 MajorGeek

    Any guesses (or inside info!) where this is going...? Where it's "ALL" (where "WE'RE" all) headed to...??
     
  4. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    How do you spell INEQUITY? :-D

    This is serious stuff, but I think they have not yet crystallized what their goal is or how that goal is to be achieved.

    Also, there seems to be no clear distinction of, or awareness of, which political policies and legislation they favor or oppose.
     
  5. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    From what I can see, it's just growing. Damn near like wildfire.

    Since they started asking for people to post stories, and photos on the site, there are now 54 pages, with at least 15 people on each one.

    That's over 800 people, in less than a week.

    Hopefully we're headed to equality for all, and an end to "de pecuniae" segregation. There are people out there who don't work hard, and deserve to "fail", but they are vastly outnumbered by those who do work hard, and are getting royally f****d. :mad

    :major
     
  6. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Seriously, there are some VERY pissed off people swapping stories.

    People saying, in their own way, is this:

    :kissmy

    That's most of what I have been reading.
     
  7. FED UP

    FED UP MajorGeek

    I have heard nothing but vague and nebulous complaints from the protesters. What are they demanding exactly ? All I know is I see pics of protesters with Macbooks lined up and all sorts of fancy electronics that I don't have, and what are they complaining about, exactly ? I dunno. Maybe it's a good time to invest in pepper spray .
     
  8. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Well, I wouldn't own a Macbook either.

    However, a laptop, or a smartphone is an invaluable organization tool, considering the reach of the internet. Maybe you see some of the better off at the protest, but there are others who will never see it in person, unless they pack up a hobo-stick, and hop a freight train.

    Some people, all they can afford to do is write on a piece of paper, and take a picture.

    Me, I'm one of the lucky ones. I work in a generations old family business that is barely squeaking by, but it's a job nonetheless.
     
  9. FED UP

    FED UP MajorGeek

  10. grc123

    grc123 MajorGeek

  11. FED UP

    FED UP MajorGeek

    Is he judging or offering his opinion ? What's the difference ?
     
  12. FED UP

    FED UP MajorGeek

  13. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    I find it wildly entertaining that a fortunate few who happen to have "hi-tech" devces, are not only focused on, but it's assumed that 100% of the protesters have more than a TracFone, or Net10.

    I'd say less than ten percent of those in the street have a "smartphone".

    Doesn't stop a bevy of morons from assuming such, however, does it?

    :banghead
     
  14. FED UP

    FED UP MajorGeek

    It is both easy and fun to make a variety of unfounded assumptions from 1,000 miles away .
     
  15. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    Hey, man, I have a TracFone. Does the trick for me. ;)

    Beginning to think maybe I need one with a camera. :confused
     
  16. grc123

    grc123 MajorGeek

    Seriously? If so (if you are), I would say; an opinion is "tolerant", or 'leaves room for tolerance' (to "SOME" degree or extent, at least).

    Judgment seems as "condemnation" ... and FINAL condemnation at that (as in: "Sentence HAs Been Imposed" ... as is done in a courtroom.

    Whereas most opinions seem to have, and/or often have some "flex" [flexibility] built-in") ... "wiggle-room", and who doesn't like THAT... ?
     
  17. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    I get that varied fields need smart people other than Wall St. but the rest sounds like a communist call to arms:confused

    Theres usually a reason Bosses get paid more,its because they're the onloy people who can dob that job well and hence there is a high demand for that type of skill set.

    But I do agree there directors of companies that have hugely over inflated wages.
     
  18. ItsWendy

    ItsWendy MajorGeek

    I am stuck in a dead end job.

    There are no other jobs out there, I am lucky to have one.

    All the good jobs have traveled overseas, while the USA continues giving corporations tax breaks so they can send more jobs overseas.

    My senator and representative do not represent you or I, they represent the people who pay to get them re-elected.

    The number of people who brought down the economy and went to jail for it are less than the fingers on my hand, but banks continue to fight (and pay our so called representatives) to keep regulations from repeating the same greedy moves. If you ask them, they see nothing broken, but then, they are making obscene gobs of cash following the same questionable practices. Lack of enforcement of regulations that were developed during the Great Depression were a major contributor to this mess.

    I am not a tea partyer, I am willing to accept compromise with people whom I don't agree with. I do not want to rule the government or crash it if I don't get my way.

    I do believe we have serious problems. I think this movement is more promising than the tea party by a long shot.

    I am one the 99%.
     
  19. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek


    What I have discovered in my travels, and travails is that the vast majority of people who scream "SOCIALISM", have no clue the difference between communism, democracy, and socialism.

    I had a guy today, who insisted that Venezuela is a "FREAKIN' DICTATORSHIP", when it has been a democratic republic since 1958.

    I agree with Simon Bolivar. He once stated that Spanish America was subject to a "triple yoke of ignorance, tyranny, and vice".

    Ignorance: Failed public education system. NYC is a prime example. Can't pass? We'll "fix" your grades.

    Tyranny: Wall St. Holds fiscal power, and dominates our government with it's alumni.

    Vice: Greed, and avarice. People who believe they are entitled to a lotto jackpot worth of salary, per annum.

    :mad

    BULL:crap!

    AND,

    :kissmy
     
  20. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

    I would be more impressed if they did more than bemoan the current state of affairs.
     
  21. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Give it time.

    Once "membership" is in the millions (around the world, it already is) you'll see some change when it can no longer be ignored.

    http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/marylease.html


    Wall Street Owns The Country

    A Speech by Mary Elizabeth Lease (circa 1890)

    This is a nation of inconsistencies. The Puritans fleeing from oppression became oppressors. We fought England for our liberty and put chains on four million blacks. We wiped out slavery and our tariff laws and national banks began a system of white wage slavery worse than the first. Wall Street owns the country. It is no longer a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, but a government of Wall Street, by Wall Street, and for Wall Street. The great common people of this country are slaves, and monopoly is the master. The West and South are bound and prostrate before the manufacturing East. Money rules, and our Vice-President is a London banker. Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us. We were told two years ago to go to work and raise a big crop, that was all we needed. We went to work and plowed and planted; the rains fell, the sun shone, nature smiled, and we raised the big crop that they told us to; and what came of it? Eight-cent corn, ten-cent oats, two-cent beef and no price at all for butter and eggs-that's what came of it. The politicians said we suffered from overproduction. OVERPRODUCTION!? When 10,000 little children, so statistics tell us, starve to death every year in the United States, and over 100,000 shopgirls in New York are forced to sell their virtue for the bread their niggardly wages deny them... We want money, land and transportation. We want the abolition of the National Banks, and we want the power to make loans direct from the government. We want the foreclosure system wiped out... We will stand by our homes and stay by our fireside by force if necessary, and we will not pay our debts to the loan-shark companies until the government pays its debts to us. The people are at bay; let the bloodhounds of money who dogged us thus far beware.
     
  22. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    But not me of course just other people on your travels in which you've noticed that?

    Your movement won't get very far if all you do is insinuate negative things about people when they question it instead of explaining what the point and alternative to the current system is, other than pissing and moaning.

    I'm out.
     
  23. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Maybe if persons assumed less, and didn't have the same ego streak that is breaking this country. Why would you assume I meant you, not the guy in question, Rikky? Unless I outed you specifically, stay away from the "it's all about me" crowd. Trust me, they're no good.


    There are a host of countries in this world, which are Democratic Republics that have a far lower degree of disparity. We can start by modeling ourselves after the rest of the citizens of this world who have already crafted societies with FREE medical care, AFFORDABLE education, better than a D- infrastructure, and solid, scandal free public education.

    The problem here is that we have too many, who take far more than they give, and a grossly, fiscally negligent government that caters to lobbyists, as well as the interests they represent.

    We can also help a great deal by eliminating corporate personhood, and corporate lobbyists. All they do is serve their own interests, while denigrating, and degrading the voice of the people. Our Constitution says, "We, the people", not "We, the 1%", or "We, the corporatocracy".

    I don't care who in the hell someone thinks they are, they can't be worth the equivalent of a lotto jackpot on a per annum basis, leave 66% of the country to not only earn 50K or less, but to split 25% of the income and have a society where crime, poverty, and malfeasance are not rampant. In 2009, 12.5% of the US took home 100K, or better, and split 49.4% of the nation's income.

    That sure as hell ain't gonna' work.


    “It’s all right to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps, but it is cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps.”

    ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
     
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  24. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    I should also add that we need a fiscal system, where the cops, and the robbers are not on the same teams, switching sides to work for the highest bidder.

    You either work in enforcement, or you work for the Street.

    NOT BOTH.

    :mad
     
  25. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek


    This one IS directed at you.

    There are a BOATLOAD of people in this country who have lost a.) their jobs, b.) their income, c.) retirement/savings, d.) homes, through NO fault of their own.

    In my case, I had just not only survived a lightning strike, but had been diagnosed with a minor disability when the "recession" hit. I have worked hard all of my life, lost everything I worked ten years for, and am just getting what's left of my debt manageable. There was no "safety net" for people like me, when the job market in my field dried up, and I had to work for HALF my normal professional salary in retail, because that was really all there was to be had locally. Having to take a leave of absence for medical reasons DOES NOT qualify you for unemployment, and I am lucky I had my family around me.

    There are so many people who were fiscally conservative, lived within their means, and got SCREWED because a select few in our society destroyed our economy by various rule changes, deregulation, and a near COMPLETE lack of enforcement when it came to the rules that remained.

    We are tired of watching the mistakes in History repeated , and those responsible not only NOT being held responsible, but walking away with paycheck, raises, and bonuses in hand for FAILURE because they have the power to be above the law.

    "De pecuniae" segregation must end, if we are EVER to become part of a bigger, grander, and greater society. And, I mean the one BEYOND this ball of mud, out among the stars.
     
  26. CrazyCanuck

    CrazyCanuck Private E-2

    Thats the new modo these days. Complain, and you shall recieve. Or you just dont recieve and you complain some more until you are a disgruntled senior unable to take responsiblity for even 1% of your own problems in life. I say, lets do something about it, instead of complaining our asses off. Revolutioné


    ROFLed at this! Epic. :-D

    In all honesty, you are going to have a few bad apples when you are looking at any movement. Just look at the tea party....

    Wait... why am i comparing horse manure to applesLOL
     
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  27. oma

    oma MajorGeek


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