What is a "Challenge Code"???

Discussion in 'Software' started by montecarlo1987, May 18, 2011.

  1. montecarlo1987

    montecarlo1987 Private First Class

    Hello. I need anyone to explain to me what is a "challenge code"???

    Okay, there is a "paid" add-on for Firefox. It is called FoxySpider (v.1.1.1). It is a personal web crawler. Yes, it is PAID! (Unusual for Firefox add-ons -- paid!) I like it. You get a free 30-days fully functional trial and then it gets lowered to limited features after the trial expires. I already paid thru PayPal and now I have to submit to the developer to get back an e-mail with my license. Check it out if you like and maybe you can tell me what the "Challenge code" is and how it works? Check out the "Options" button for FoxySpider in Add-ons Manager and go to the "License" tab to see "Challenge Code" near the bottom.

    Please reply.

    Thank you!
     
  2. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    It's to check whether you're a human or not ;)
     
  3. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    It is just another way of saying serial code.
    when i do bank transactions with my PC they also use the phrase "Challenge code" and it just my security code.
     
  4. Caliban

    Caliban I don't need no steenkin' title!

    I've got a challenge coin - will that help? ;)
     
  5. motc7

    motc7 Vice Admiral (Starfleet)

  6. mcsmc

    mcsmc MajorGeek

    Maybe it will determine if you're a socially challenged geek...
     
  7. montecarlo1987

    montecarlo1987 Private First Class

    @ everyone:

    I love your responses!!! :) Some are funny! :-D

    Okay, time to get serious about this. I have a lot to say and inform you about this...

    I found the answer after SEVERAL hours of research and I DO NOT LIKE WHAT I HAVE FOUND!!! ...AT ALL!!!:mad

    I hope and pray NO ONE EVER USES THIS software authorization/authentication technology!!! It is an PURE EVIL TECHNOLOGY!!! I see **A LOT** of complaints from users if this technology ever got popular by developers!!! (The software companies would go out of business very quickly because of its strict nature because no one would be buying their products!!!)

    Let me explain:

    I found that this is a coupled authorization/authentication technology that as a means to officially authorize a (paid) programs license exclusively to one's computer. When you install a program for the first time in the operating system, the program will automatically generate a challenge code that is unique to the computer on which you installed that software. You cannot change the challenge code. It is permanent (well, maybe not for hackers). When you want to buy the program (since you would be using a trial version of it right along), you have to submit the challenge code along coupled some proof that you paid for the product (maybe through a point-of-sale) and your registered e-mail address/name to the developer or the company that owns the product. You can submit this data online to receive the license key. Once you get it back from the developer or company you enter the license key along side the challenge code. Now, the license key is DIRECTLY TIED TO the challenge code. No online server is really necessary to authorize the license. So the licensed product is now connected to that computer and ONLY THAT computer. Sounds great??!?!?! NO!!!!! What if I were to have my system crash or malware destroy my computer by chance???? DOES HAPPEN!!! If I had to re-install Windows on a few occasions! I am sure I am not alone, and if I were to re-install that same licensed program on my new operating system, I could NOT use that same license key on this same program again. Normally, license keys follow the program ONLY and the number of times you have activated it. Yes, you are GIVEN A NUMBER of activations and that is VERY FAIR! So if I completely lost my operating system, I would be still able to activate my licensed software later on. But now, this is more direct and DIRECTLY TIED to your system!!! Reason: The challenge code is particular to your installed operating system and every challenge code is unique! ...and the challenge code and license key are linked together. There is no need for an online activation server. BOTTOM LINE: With this kind of technology, if I were to lose my operating system for whatever reason (especially by accident), I am going to have to RE-PURCHASE my software again I ALREADY PAID FOR!!! :crybaby:mad:boxing I am talking some $$$!!!! IT SUCKS!!! :crap I hope developers are not that stupid to consider this kind of technology unless they want to go out of business!

    Well, I have just checked my e-mail and I found that the author/developer has replied to me about my question I submitted to about this very issue earlier today. I will clear and air I hope and set the record straight. Author/Developer's response to my e-mail:

    "As for your OS re-installation question:
    Reinstalling your OS will most likely lead to a new challenge code assignment. Once you are there, re-send your challenge code and a new license key will be provided. I have no inteation (intention) to keep my user frustrated and in the rare case of HD crash, OS re-installation, etc., I provide new license keys. Only in the case of a totally new PC a new purchase is required."


    Now, I will say that the author/developer is being definitely "tolerant" and accommodating to the strict authorization/authentication technology. :) I totally appreciate that! ;) This time I got lucky to find someone who understands the circumstances and is will to work with me and others as well. I will recommend this particular program add-on for Firefox and others.

    However, besides the agreed cooperation I did get from the author/developer on this particular program, the honest fact remains the strict method and process of this particular means of program activation/authentication should not be used with program/software installations for activation purposes. You will be at the whim of the author/developer and you just may not have one as cooperative and appreciative as this gentlemen has been -- you're out of luck! You may not find someone as understanding as this author/developer. The sheer fact that the nature of this authorization/authentication technology will always put the purchaser with severe limited recourse for unforeseeable circumstances and at the beckoned call of the author/developer wishes. Just hope you have a good author/developer or company that is willing to work with you if you decided to opt for program/software with this means of authorization/authentication technology!

    This particular authorization/authentication technology should only be used where it originated, and to my understanding it started in the U.S. Armed Forces to authenticate and encrypt some communications using encrypting data. The monetary banking systems then instituted it, etc. Please understand, I have no problems with its use for particular security matters; but NOT implemented on a Johnny's personal computer with third party programs and software that depend on precarious operating systems for their stability. A good analogy would be building a high tech fortress on top of a sandy and unstable ground. The ground may be good most of the time, but if ever unanticipated heavy rains and floods wash out the ground, you will lose your fortress and have to reconstruct it all over again on some other ground.

    Except for this add-on product for Firefox, personally I will never buy into a product like this again that offers this kind of strict authorization/authentication technology. I will research the authorization/authentication technology means FIRST and make part of my decision on this factor. Other authorization/authentication technology methods as I mentioned above in my initial post are fair and content for one's use.
     

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