what is better?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by N5638J, Oct 9, 2006.

  1. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    i am going through my hardware in my closet and look what i found a AMD Sempron 3100+ with a frequency of 2000 Ex clock 222mhz, a mini-ATX ABit KV-80 mobo for it and a very good copper Core heatsink and fan (non-stock).

    now i am wondering i am a gamer and wanted to know if that would be better thin what i got in my computer right now (spec's in sig) would it be better for gaming (as in Battlefield2, GTA:SA, UT2004, Flatout2, doom3 and flight simulator X when it comes out) and stuff?
     
  2. prankz

    prankz Specialist

    cant see ur sig mate...
     
  3. Bladesofhalo

    Bladesofhalo MajorGeek

    I can see it clearly o_O
     
  4. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    you got to turn on sigs in your User control panel but i will post them too just for you ;)


    BTW if its not better i will just put it up for sell how much y'all think i can get for it?

    Tower spec's
    430watt Thermaltake PSU
    ASUS P4S8X-X
    EVGA GeForce 6800GS CO Edition
    p4 celeron 2.5ghz overclocked to 2999ghz
    1gig pc2100 ram
    40gig wd hdd and a max 40gig for games
    XP Pro SP2
     
  5. Estima8tor

    Estima8tor Private E-2

    Well, to be honest, the sempron and the celeron are both budget CPU's and neither one are designed for high performance applications like gaming. The old Celerons are know to be poor gaming CPU's and will bottleneck a decent GPU like yours.

    I'm pretty sure that the Sempron 3100 would out perform the celeron in gaming hands down. I cannot provide any benchmarks at the moment to back this up but I'm fairly confident that the Sempron would be the better choice.

    If the Sempron is in a decent motherboard that supports your current hardware, then I would switch to the Sempron 3100+. :)

    Or, if you have some extra cash, you could upgrade the cpu in your rig to a P4 3 GHz or faster - you would see a nice performance increase by doing that.

    If your into gaming, you should really consider dumping the Celeron because I can assure you it's holding back that 6800GS from performing at it's full potential, there's no doubt about that.
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2006
  6. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    right now my ASUS mobo is at its limit because 3ghz is as high as it can go.

    i will wait to see what other people think too before i jump to other board because of having to format and reinstalling everything. it would take about aweek to get it back to where i have it.
     
  7. Estima8tor

    Estima8tor Private E-2

    Yeah, it probably wouldn't be worth the trouble swapping motherboards. The Abit KV-80 is a socket 754 mobo so the cpu upgrades for it are very limited. You would also have to upgrade your memory as well ...
     
  8. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    well right now in my pc i got 4 sticks of pc3200 256mb each in it but that abit only has 2 slots :( lol
     
  9. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    Bump i would really like some more proples info on this.
     
  10. link48010

    link48010 Private E-2

    I beg to differ about the budjet processors thing. The sempron may be a cheap processor but it isn't lowjack. my sempron will play games (Age of Empires 3) 64 mb ram short. the celleron is a peice of crap. i have a 700 mghz on my pavilion, but even when it was new (192 mb ram) is was a snail. the thing was only good untill you got the constantly running programs such as firewalls and antiviruses. the reason is becuase the celleron doesn't have a math processor and very small cach (sp). the semperon will over power the celleron easly and AMD's overclock better (i never overclock myself). the reason is because their architecter is different. i would not put in a P4. there was a independant test that the AMD athalon (sp) 3500 (2.5 ghz) could out preform the P4 3.5 ghz, just fyi.
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2006
  11. Estima8tor

    Estima8tor Private E-2

    With all due respect link48010, the celerons and semprons are budget cpu's.

    They have smaller L2 caches than the P4's and the Athlon 64's which limits the amount of data flow they can handle. They are designed specifically for lower performance type application and are not ideal for gaming and other demanding apps.

    Sure they will play games and you can overclock them all you want but in the end, your still held back by the small L2 Cache which limits performance, especially in games.

    Go shop online for prebuilt gaming rigs and see how many are using Celerons and semprons, you won't find many, if any.
     
  12. link48010

    link48010 Private E-2

    Well I never said that they wheren't budget CPU's, I just said that the semprons are far better than the celerons. I also never said that they are better than the P4 or Athlon. I know that they arn't made for high performance apps but semprons handle it better than celerons. Semprons are cheap and arn't as good for gaming as say a P4, but they are better than any celeron. AMD's do overclock better like i said, they can handle it better. What I'm trying to say is that the sempron gives you more power for your buck. they are far more powerful than a celeron. like i said the sempron will play games when I'm 64 mb short on ram, the celeron is another story. It seems that all AMD's are cheaper but more powerful than intel (maybe an exception somewhere, posably in the duo-core series). the problem with the duo-core processors is that their so damn expensive. in short the AMD wins.
     

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