What To Do When It Won't Work

Discussion in 'Software' started by Imandy Mann, May 30, 2016.

  1. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    Had something trying to take control of .pif's. Scotty the Watchdog (WinPatrol) kept giving alerts every couple minutes. Something trying to change .pif's from "CryptoPrevent" to "%1%*". I trust Scotty and I trust CryptoPrevent but not whatever it was trying to make changes. Did a couple reboots. Removed recently installed files. Ran CCleaner and it's registry scan. Still there. Ran Defender, SUPERAntiSpyWare, and MalwareBytes. Nothing found and it's still giving alerts. Somewhere among all this and rebooting all of a sudden - no boot.

    Had a recent backup. May 3. Made with AOMEI Backer Upper so I loaded the AOMEI rescue cd and started the show. 220gbytes and estimated 1 hour. So i went to bed.

    This morning it was done and waiting on me to reboot. No good. "A recent hardware or softwar......" You know.
    Went back to the rescue cd to get into recovery enviroment to repair startup problems. Couldn't be fixed.
    Went into command prompt and ran all the BootRec options: FixMbr, FixBoot, ScanOs, RebuildBcd. Still nothing.

    Booted a Puppy stick. It and AOMEI could both read the disk clearly.
    Went back to recovery enviroment to try a restore point. No disk!
    Tried to do a refresh. Disk Locked!

    Now what?

    Also have a Macrium Reflect rescue cd so I put it in and booted. First screen top corner was the Fix MBR option. Used that and in 3 minutes my May 3 backup was booting.

    I'm glad I had the tools. And also had made the system backup. And had made the rescue cd's and sticks. And that I had already made the effort to know how to boot from them on this pc.

    Don't wait for a problem and then try to shuffle between 2 pc's to start getting help together. And Window's alone won't always fix itself. Just like here during hurricane season the motto is "Be Prepared"
     
  2. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    I make monthly images. Most of the time I just image C but about twice a year, I do an image of all the partitions on a computer.
    If I were in your situation, I'd grab my newest "complete" image and restore with that. Once it booted up then I'd grab the newest image of C and load that over top of the old C.
    I keep a note card with all the things changed since the latest image so if I need to restore, I'd know what needed updating and anything that needed to be removed.

    Once on a notebook, (this was either ME or Windows 2K) the electricity went off while I was doing something to Windows. Since the battery wouldn't hold a charge, I had a broken system. I got the dreaded white on black "no operating system found". I grabbed an image and was back in business in under an hour.
     
  3. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    My only external drive has copies of music, tech manuals, vids and pics I want to keep plus my backups and images. I see prices are getting better on 1T and 2T drives. I plan on getting another for just images. Your idea with note cards is a thing I need to do. I keep notes on how I did something but they are all scattered around. I need a dedicated index deck or such along with a dedicated drive.
     
  4. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    Having tried them all there are only two imaging systems I feel I can trust whatever may happen - Acronis and Macrium Reflect and I alternate my monthly backups between them. Don't have plodr's patience though to keep noting the changes in between. You are right - you have to practice recovery until you are completely confident in it. Just making a backup and hoping it will work if needed is not likely to save the day.
     
  5. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    I'm going to give a look a Acronis. It's one I haven't used yet. I have syncback free, AOMIE, and Macruim that I use now. I like the idea about swapping or maybe even dual backups for security. Need the larger drive for sure. Only thing I lost between the May 3 image and now was a couple music videos. Recuva'd those already. The practice on booting other ways and knowing when to switch the bios to secure/legacy saved time for sure.
     
  6. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    The problem with backups for many people is simply the time it can take. I've got my imaging times down to well under 15 minutes by moving all my personal files to a data partition, which has the added advantage of not overwriting your own stuff in the event you have to/want to restore the system partition.
     
  7. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    I have 7 WD external hard drives. One doesn't count because it is huge and only holds 80GB. On that one I have stored all the floppies I had as well as backups of mp3 files I ripped. (I am finally getting my husband away from floppies! He has now entered the 21st century and is storing his files on two USB sticks. Again, if something is important, always keep at least two copies on different things. His files change often so burning to a data CD isn't practical.)

    For my images I have two 500GB, two 1TB and two 2TB drives. I rotate where I store images just in case one of the drives dies. I keep ALL the images for a computer as long as it is in the house. Once I donate it or e-cycle it, then I clear the images off the drives.

    When you buy a drive for images, I suggest getting two. That way you can rotate them. If the drive dies, you'll still have images available.

    As far as note cards, I had my husband build me a wooden box to my measurements. Inside dimensions 5 1/2" x 9"


    This is the 3rd of three. The other two boxes are ordinary recipe file boxes and in them are notes on past versions of Windows.
     

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  8. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    Your husband reminds me of me. I still have boxes/containers of 3.5 and 5 1/4 floppies. Still have a Windows 1.0 on 5 1/4.
    Had a drawer full of hd's till a couple years back. All were too small by today's tech. 80 gb or so. Recycled the parts. I work metal and sheet metal and solder a lot. The magnets from the drives taped to a piece of conduit are great for cleaning up after saws and grinders. Loose magnets are great for cleaning out power panels and cabinets after drilling holes for conduit. The disc are really reflective and great for inspection mirrors and when soldering in tight places. You can see the backside in places where you can't get your head. Dual uses for old technology.

    Every post gives good ideas. Dual programs. Dual backups. Dual drives. All good things to consider.
     
  9. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    We have a few of those stuck to the refrigerator in the garage to use when we need a really strong magnet.
     
  10. Spad

    Spad MajorGeek

    I also make montly copies of my computers . . . save one restore copy to a second drive on the computer, and another copy to the network drive.

    Those work really well magnetizing a screwdriver.
     
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