When can you use PC8500 RAM

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by bosaw, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. bosaw

    bosaw Private E-2

    I'm doing research on a new system to build. The motherboard I picked out says it supports DDR2-667 (PC5400) but I found that DDR2-1066 (PC8500) is available. So now I am trying to find out what motherboard would support DDR2-1066. I haven't found one yet but I'm just curious if there's anything out there.

    This new system I'm building is for CPU intensive use. I do forensic data analysis along with video rendering among other things. I want the most bang for the buck and any suggestions are welcome. I would like to keep costs below 3K.

    Thanks,
    Jason
     
  2. splitt3r

    splitt3r You are now the victim of a drive by title change

    technically mobos don't support pc8500 RAM, it is for overclocking which I really don't know much about. If you want top cpu performance I reccomend the AMD athlon 64 X2 processors since they are the fastest dual core there is.I woudl also reccomend a decent video card, if it isn;t for gaming then a 6200 would be fine, a 7600gt for great performance.
     
  3. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

  4. bosaw

    bosaw Private E-2

    That's good to hear it's something that I may not need being that I'm not into overclocking either. Another thing that makes me wonder is the mobos say they support 8GB with 4 slots. I'm thinking that means 2GB per stick if my math is right. However, I am yet to find RAM in 2GB sticks. Every 2GB thing I find is a kit with 2 - 1GB sticks (what a waste).

    Does anyone know of an internal HDD larger than 500GB? I'd like to have about 2TB if possible. I could buy 4 and be close but I'd like to free some space anytime I can.

    Thanks
     
  5. splitt3r

    splitt3r You are now the victim of a drive by title change

    well, you can get 2gb sticks here
    But it probably isn't necessary, usually more than 2gb is considered overkill, and MOST mobos only support 4gb.As far as hard drives go, 500gb is the max right now, but you could get a mobo with 4 SATA ports and a compatable case and power supply and you could have up to 2 terabytes.seagate
    Seems to be the most reliable.If that isn't enough storage for you, you can use external hdds as well. are you by any chance planning to download the internet?
     
  6. ~Pyrate~

    ~Pyrate~ MajorGeek

    As for the storage, depending on the access speed you want, you could look into netework area storage or ATA over Ethernet.
     
  7. OCTiMod

    OCTiMod Private E-2

    Only 64bit operating systems have over 4GB memory address space, so its useless to have 4GB or mre in your system.
    Also the RAM at your videocard, cpu, HD buffer and soundcard are counted within the 4GB...

     
  8. thesunscreen

    thesunscreen Specialist

    Seriously, 2 tb? That is serious amounts of storage. Check out some articals on Render Farming, I read something about it and it cuts render time in half, and it is all built from 700mhz machines networked together. It did the work of a 2.4 ghz p4 in less then half the time.

    You could pick up a bare bones server and stack a couple of 500 gb hd's off a a pci sata card in a raid array.
     
  9. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

    No offence but I disagree, it is just the latest and greatest technology which is "ideal for OC" but there are mobo's just coming out that can utilise it. As provided here is one from gigabyte and ASUS has one as well (just do a google).

    http://www.tgdaily.com/2005/05/18/gi...dr2/index.html

    For the sort of processing you need "......forensic data analysis along with video rendering ....." I think RAM is very important (if you have done complex mathematical modelling and seen good computers hang, freeze, stagger you'll understand) but in conjunction you should understand the FSB, how info is processed and what amounts to processing power.

    There is 2Gb of RAM out there (Kingston, OCZ, etc) but no point in buying 2Gb of cheap RAM when you could buy 1gb of good brand RAM and get better outcomes.

    Storage:

    I would just buy 1 x 500Gb (and a good burner) at the moment as new storage technology is not far off (depending when you need the system), have a look:

    http://www.nsaneproductions.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2122

    Cheap 1.5Tb storage potential.
     
  10. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

  11. bosaw

    bosaw Private E-2

    Thanks so much, all of this is great information. The only thing I don't understand is when OCTiMod said that only 64bit OS can address 8GB of memory. I thought 64bit OS's were for 64bit processors. Should I just go 64bit all the way then just to utilize and be able to access 8GB of RAM?
     
  12. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

    I'm not sure about that point have a look at this motherboard and on all the pages describing I cannot see any mention of 64 bit OS (even using "find"). It has an intel 775, 8Mg RAM, only DDR2 667 (lol), but importantly something you may want to look into "Enables NVIDIA SLIā„¢ technology at two full-bandwidth PCI-E X16 interface", loosely: 2 x 512Mb Vid Cards at X 16, this is very serious graphics processing power!!!! I love this board!!!!:

    http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/M...oductID=1957&ProductName=GA-8N-SLI+Quad+Royal
    http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/m...oductID=1957&ProductName=GA-8N-SLI Quad Royal

    Also as your doing research I recommend you go to the overclockers forum and read the guide (top thread), NOT to OC your sys but to understand the fundamentals of how processing power is achieved! Attain a conceptual idea of what FSB, Quad Pumped, HT, etc, etc, all "keywords" for a serious sys.

    Interested to hear about your final outcomes!
     
  13. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

    A good site for refrence to GPU, Video Cards and reviews is:

    http://www.guru3d.com/

    Tons of info for some of the latest and greatest technology but importantly matching top end products up with the better complimentary components.
     
  14. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

    Just in case the research is still on I have found a couple of really good links:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/index.html
    Have a look down the page on the rhs for comparison charts on VGA, CPU, HD and tons of excellent articles, really get your finger on the pulse. In case your interested ATI's "Crossfire" wh attempts to compete w SLI PCI-E is currently a wet newspaper and a fizzer (no bang).

    Another good one for excellent "critical reviews" that spells crap w a capital C:

    http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/category.asp?SCID=15

    Don't pay to much attention to statements of overkill unless it comes from a very reputable source. There are a lot of frustrated 15 y.o. who only get their $10 p/w allowance.
     

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