Why can't I see both hard drives?

I am building my first computer.

I have a K8M800-M2 motherboard

40GB IDE hard drive from old computer w/ xp sp2, programs, data

new 200GB IDE seagate blank

AMD 64 3000+ New Castle

I am trying to set up the drives so I can clone the old drive onto the new drive and partition it.

If I have just the old drive at the end of the cable and set the jumper to master it sees the drive as slave and will boot from windows.

If I try set the old drive to master and the new dirve to slave placing the new drive at the center connector, the computer only sees the new drive and sees it as slave.

If I set both drives to cable select the computer sees neither drive.

If I set the new drive to master at the end of the cable and the old drive to slave it sees only the new drive and sees it as master.

In CMOS everything seems set to auto which is what the manual said to see a second drive.

My version of xp is an upgrade cd so I don't think I can just install xp on the new disk.

I wanted to use the copy program that came with the seagate hard drive to copy the old hd and partition the new disk.

If you have any ideas please help I am very confused

 

It could be a few things. First I'd double check the jumper settings. Some companies like to confuse people by having two master settings. One is master (single) and the other is master. Master single is set when using just one drive and nothing else is on the cable. So make sure you arn't using that setting and in fact are using the master setting. Of course not all companies do this. I think seagate has done it but not on all of their drives. WD drives do this rather commonly for some stupid reason.

Alternativly, you could simply plug one of the drives into the secondary channel and run just one off the primary channel. The secondary channel would be the cord which is currently plugged into the CDROM/DVDROM drive.

 

Here's the update I tried putting each hard drive on a seperate IDE cable and setting both to master.

I could only see the new drive and I tried it both ways primary=new secondary=old and primary=old secondary=new.

And yes I did this with no other drives attached.

I also checked and the cables are all attached correctly.

I can get the seagate disk to boot to partition the new drive.

I tried to boot from my windows xp upgrade cd and it wouldn't boot.

At this point I wonder if I could just get some software that would copy the drive or drive image to dvds that I could then move to my new drive.

 

you can't boot windows XP if you installed XP on a different computer

AFIAK . it's perfectly legal to install XP on your new computer ... so long as you do not continue to use your license on your old computer ... in other words, you have a license to use XP on one computer, so long as you don't put your old drive in your old computer and give it away to a friend or sell it .. you're not breaking any laws

what I would do if I was you ... is either put your hdd w/ XP as master and the new drive as slave then do a repair install following this: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm tutorial ... it will not delete any of your data only your programs will be lost .. then goto windowsupdate.com then install your drivers ... that's the easiest solution i think

or you could install windows XP onto your new drive then copy your data to your new drive then reformat your old drive and use it for back up

 

The Windows XP update CD I have says you can do a new install with it but did not have directions so I thought it was bootable and I would get instructions from there. Guess not.

I have allready tried this I can only see the new drive, check my first post.

I always thought a repair install was to repair windows. I need to take the data/os (if possible) on the old drive and put it on the new drive.
I don't think there is anything wrong with windows on the old drive, it will boot when it is the only drive in my new computer. The drive disapears when I put the new drive in.

This isn't windows fault is it?

 

I read and reread the post to make sure that I understood the problem. You said that the 40 gig hard drive came out of your old computer, so I'm assuming that your new computer has a different motherboard and processor. Even if you were sucessful at cloning the old hard drive to the new hard drive, the OS would have the wrong chipset drivers, and would require work after doing so.

The easiest solution in my opinion would be a clean install on the new hard drive and this can be done with an update CD. All that is necessary is the installation CD of an older OS such as Win98. The update CD will ask for this for verification purposes, and after that it should be clear sailing. Hope this helps