Win 1607 Login

Discussion in 'Software' started by peterr, Aug 14, 2016.

  1. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    Hello
    I use to be able to apply a fix so I could bypass the splash screen and go right to login but I cannot.
    Do you know how?
    TY
    Peter
     
  2. Anon-9aee479f8f

    Anon-9aee479f8f Anonymized

    There was a update for Windows 10 Version 1607 on Aug.2. Did you have trouble before or after the update?
     
  3. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    After the update as I used to go right to login. The older fix does not apply.
     
  4. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    If you're using W10 Pro, MS made changes and removed policies with AU (1607).

    It looks like the below snip is relevant to your problem:

    EDIT: there's a more recent post there that might help you revert to your old settings.
     
  5. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    Thanks a lot; I have to look into this.
     
  6. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I don't know if you have multiple users on your computer. But, since I'm the only person that uses my computers, I automatically log in to my Desktops.

    Open an elevated Command Prompt by right clicking the Start Button and selecting Command Prompt (Admin).

    Type "control userpasswords2" (without the quotes) and hit Enter.

    In the box that comes up, uncheck Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer and click Apply.

    Enter your password twice and click OK. Click OK again and type exit in the Command Prompt window and hit enter.

    From then on, you'll automatically log into your Desktop if it's what you wish.
     
  7. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    If I get this correctly, I can then just avoid login. I would prefer to be able to go to login bypassing the splash screen and then login so my work is somewhat protected. This what I did before the update.
    BTW, I am having an awful time with sluggishness since the update. Are you?
    And thank you for the tip about directly accessing the pc.
    Peter
     
  8. silvervulpus

    silvervulpus Guest

    you are the third person in less than 10 hours i have heard with similar complaints about sluggishness, please notify us if you begin having problems with courser glitching, freezes, blue screens, etc. it seems 1607 is really glitchy and it might be a good idea to roll back to the last update. heres a bit about what i mean.
    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/index.php?threads/last-update-sluggish.308555/#post-1967862
    and
    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/index.php?threads/computer-is-freezing-up.308445/#post-1967819
    both i believe are related to your problem also and it seems to revolve around 1607.
     
  9. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    I may either image back to before the update or do a clean install.
     
  10. silvervulpus

    silvervulpus Guest

    i cant tell you what to do with all confidence until i hear from a few more experienced admins, but my recommendation (and not saying you should but if it was my personal comp i would cuz i brick machines for fun) would be to simply uninstall that particular update, or sys restore to just before it, and if that does not fix the issue, try a re-image. but yet again, im not the highest on the tech totem pole, im just a guy who has done alot in the last 20 years, and ive spent alot of time unbricking my own handywork. i dont want to be the one to lead you down a bad path, but for me it seems to be the logical solution.
     
  11. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    Your suggestions seem solid.
    I am currently imaging back to 7-22 as we speak.
    I have to leave for a while but will report back.
    I am concerned that the update will once again foil things up but cannot and really should not stop it. Lets hope it works.
    Do you delete anything once the update is installed such as old files that could slow things down?
     
  12. silvervulpus

    silvervulpus Guest

    i am going to wait for a higher up to look before i go any further into the issue, i will say that there are ways to prevent windows 10 from auto updating (i gutted my os first day and still am running win10 beta from around february) but all in all, it would just be the 1607 update uninstall and then making sure that the previous version (i think its 1511 but i could be wrong) is functioning properly.
     
  13. silvervulpus

    silvervulpus Guest

    running CCleaner registry tool and cleaning tool should remove any unused registry keys left over from the update
     
  14. silvervulpus

    silvervulpus Guest

  15. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    I'm back to 1511 and everything is running beautifully. I do not know if I should block the update - it may not be wise.
     
  16. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    >>Could be dangerous. I ran the Windows cleaner but not the registry cleaner.
     
  17. silvervulpus

    silvervulpus Guest

    i run CCleaner reg tool almost daily and i do alot of uninstall and reinstalls, (mainy play testing games and programs) however i have used CCleaner to remove reg keys after uninstalling updates on win7 previously. as far as i know win10 is the same framework as 7 and i dont forsee any problems arising from it, just watch closely what it does before finalizing the deletion, and if it does really cause problems, i would say, you suggested a clean re-image before i did.
    also hijackthis might be a better way to remove the reg keys if you are advanced enough to use it, because its super precise, however you have to tell it what to do step by step so it may be a lengthier more complex process. another alternative is after the uninstall using the fileshredder program from spybot 1.6.2 can be used to manually find the unused keys and delete them by hand. still recommend using ccleaner to find the exact filepaths though because it automates it.

    and my first suggestion is simply system restoring to a point before the 1607 was installed.
     
  18. silvervulpus

    silvervulpus Guest

    im glad to know we have proof that 1607 is causing the problem. thank you for being the first to dive into rolling back, and confirming that 1511 is stable but 1607 is not.
     
  19. dr.moriarty

    dr.moriarty Malware Super Sleuth Staff Member

    This info is inaccurate. *Quoting our Master Malware Removal Expert on its use:
    And that's only referring to it's use as a malware removal tool. I wouldn't even consider using it for any type of registry cleaning.
     
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  20. silvervulpus

    silvervulpus Guest

    you are right, doctor. it is for malware removal. but its file shred capability makes it useful and re-purposeable , either way i wont argue. probably not the best tool for the job.
     
  21. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    I was just reading on my phone that the number of people complaining is massive.
    Can I keep my image for awhile till this is sorted out - how do I keep the update from installing?
     
  22. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

  23. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I have not had problems with sluggishness though I have had slight "hangs" in Firefox but, that's all. Otherwise, Win 10 version 1607, build 14393.51 is operating normally.

    I also run the Insider Preview which is now at build 14901.1000 (RedStone 2) and the Feedback hub asked how responsive this build is. I haven't worked with it enough yet to form an opinion.
     
  24. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    Same here - three systems
     
  25. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    "Works for me" = useless comment.

    Windows has been such a personal system for so long, so many different settings and options, so many 3rd party software choices...

    I've ditched 1511 three times on this rig, twice, 1511 and 1607, on my alt. rig. and once on my portable. Forced hardware driver updates causing issues, difficult to turn them off completely, even deferring updates/upgrades isn't easy or always successful. 1607 frozen for 5 days out of 10. BSODs after which no logged traces show are some of the lowlights.

    Staying with W7 for the time being. I've missed only the ability to scroll any window, not just the active one, in the 3 days since I've been W10-free. I've (re)gained stability and time, I can now concentrate on the software I want to run, no more hours working through logs and searches trying to figure out workarounds, whilst waiting for the next lock screen that tries to force me to update.

    W10 might be fine on single drive machines, new machines and for users who upgrade from a less than moderately tweaked W7/8.1, outside of that, the chances of it being a time wasting liability increases markedly.
     
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  26. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    Not entirely. For a balanced view it is necessary to make it clear that for many - the huge majority I suspect - it works without problems. Whether you personally like it or not IS useless, but as I see it it is a stable, feature rich OS that makes computing easy.
     
  27. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    I'm not having any problems with Win 10 1607 (build 14393.51) on several systems.
    I did have to re-run O&O ShutUp 10 again - as has been publicly advised - as this build does make changes that may not be wanted. It also reinstalls many Windows Apps that may have been removed/disabled in the earlier version. Reverting these changes, if wanted, is not difficult.
    I have helped about 30 users to upgrade to Windows 10 and they generally let me know if they experience any problems. Apart from a few issues initially related to drivers, they are not coming back to me about any problems.
    I am sure some people do have difficulties which may be related to their unique system, but even empirically I'm not seeing any such major issues with Win 10 suggested.
     
  28. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    The OP's looking for a fix, not a balanced view.
     
  29. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    The OP has received information about one possible fix (post #6) but I don't know what the 'splash screen' they refer to is. I log in by PIN and nothing has changed between 1511 and 1607 for me. A screenshot of the unwanted splash screen would have helped.
     
  30. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    LOL, so post #4 was useless, eh?
     
  31. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    I have no idea, which is why I can't comment. I can't see where the OP answered with their exact Win 10 version [edit: 'edition'].
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2016
  32. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    The title suggests 1607, maybe you mean SKU?
     
  33. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Home or Pro or Ultimate or Enterprise. Post #4 specifies a 'Pro' edition.
     
  34. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    I was addressing your opening comment in #25 which had nothing at all to do with a fix and was all about the problems you have had with Win 10
     
  35. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Max, they're SKUs, not versions.

    If you delve a little deeper into #4 and the link provided, swap out the OP's word 'splash' for 'lock' and note his reply.

    Earthling, my opening comment in #25 was ""Works for me" = useless comment."

    The remainder was comparative, like it or lump it, it's more useful than a bald 'works for me' type statement.
     
  36. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

  37. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

  38. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Great second link thanks - it says 'Editions'
     
  39. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Look at the link above: social.technet.microsoftDOTcom/wiki/contents/articles/14374.windows-8-1-editions-skus-and-features.aspx

    And the article title:

    Windows 8.1 Editions (SKUs) and features
     
  40. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Yes that's great, thanks, I read it, both Microsoft and Technet refer to them as 'Editions'
    From Microsoft:
    'Compare Windows 10 Editions'
    and
    'Find out which Windows 10 edition is right for you.'
    I appreciate you correcting my terrible mistake in post #31 (which I amended quickly) using the term 'version' instead of 'edition'.
    Post #4 gives a fix for someone using the 'Pro edition'.
    Let's hope the OP manages to solve the log in problem, whatever Win 10 'edition' they have.
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2016
  41. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Editions is the term MS use for consumers (advertising blurb), SKUs is the tern used internally, they're interchangeable but that doesn't mean that either, or both, terms mean 'version'.

    Nice, something that most fora disapprove of but whatever floats your boat.

    Read #4 and the linked article, it might help give you an alternative comprehension of #1, 3 and 7.
     
  42. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    I think everyone here is a consumer.
     
  43. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    So are MS. So what?
     
  44. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Well you mentioned it, so no idea lol
     
  45. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Very droll, now go study the other suggestions I made, eh?
     
  46. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Thanks. I've read them in detail and bookmarked the links in case anyone whose systems I help with have such a problem. Luckily, I don't have the issue and I'm not the OP. Have a great day! ;)
     
  47. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    After having the anniversary installed it was fine. Over time issues of sluggishness arose. It is quite obvious when you check www that many are having issues. Those who did not, I am glad for you.
    I reimaged to build 1507 and have deferred updates for a while.
    Both machines experienced the same slowness and trouble with the mouse.
    I hope something is done so I can remove defer.
     
  48. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    That is version 1607 (build: 10.0.14393) If you say it was all fine, then not sure which version and build you had those problems on.

    You can see all the versions, and builds, here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2016
  49. peterr

    peterr MajorGeek

    1511, sorry for the error
     

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