Win 7 to Win 8

Should I remove anything besides Office and just use the Win 8 disc to install, then use my 'image' to go back to where I was when I left 8 for 7?
This for one pc.

 

If you are planning on restoring an image you don't need to do anything at all as the image will completely overwrite everything on the partition - nothing at all will survive of what is there now.

 

With help like yours, I have been able to migrate from one o.s. to the other
and learn about patitions and much more. Thank you.

 

When you do the install, it will ask if you what you wish to do. If you do a upgrade, it will change your Windows 7 install on the partition to a directory called Windows.old on C:\. From there you can move any documents over to the new Windows 8 install, and install any programs that Windows 8 did not move over to the new install.

Personally, you are better to do a "New" install of Windows 8. What that means, is that the install disc will format your hard drive or SSD, then install Windows 8 as a clean install, then you just have to reinstall any programs that you wish to at that point.

 

peterr isn't looking to do either an upgrade or a clean install. he's wanting to restore an image of 8 that he took when he first had it installed, before he reverted the system to 7.

 

Alas, my plan did not work.
I was thinking of installing 7 and when I wanted, I could simply use the 8 image to go to 8, however, being a different os 7 cannot read the image.

I think I could install the 8 disc, if I wanted 8, install it cleanly, then i could use the 8 image to avoid the hassle of the updating and installing other programs and all the rest.

 

So what you are really after peter is a Win 7/8 dual boot? If your 8 was the Pro upgrade for $peanuts that would be a licence infringement, though having said that I know of at least one case where it's working without issues. Setting up such a dual boot requires something other than the standard M$ dual boot setup though

 

I knew about the dual boot, thank you, though.

After I wrote my previous note here I rechecked the usb drive and sure enough, I was able to go from 7 to 8 and 8 to 7. It takes longer than the dual boot and is not to be used that way. It is good to have a functional image of both os systems, however.

Sorry about the incorrect information.

I did manage to see that Win Bluetooth works where Win 8 does not.

How do you update a chipset? It was suggested that might allow the BlueTooth to function.
When I go to Dell it recognizes my pc as Win 7 where BT works. It says, "For Win 7 only."
I don't know which of the entries means chipset; BIOS, applications, audio, video etc

 

That would be correct, because the image was not made with the Windows 7 install, and that Microsoft has made some changes with the backup utility for Windows 8. Win8 is backwards compatible and can restore Win7 backups, but not the opposite.

 

First off, it would not be license infringement to have a dual boot, and setting up a dual boot is not that difficult and does not need some obscure setup. the info is available at http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7/0c2887f8-fbe8-489a-ba20-b8ba2dfb0eab?auth=1

 

The Win 8 Pro upgrade EULA specifically states that you lose your right to use the version from which you upgraded. You should also read the thread you linked to, specifically stating that the upgrade edition cannot be dual booted.

We all know how to set up a standard Microsoft dual boot, though I rather suspect that those who try it with the upgrade Version of 8 will find that things may not go quite as expected However there are ways around that for those wanting to try it.

 

I am confused about something. Did you say I cannot image from 7 to 8? That is what I did this am.
I used my 8 image to go there from 7 and have a 7 image to go there from 8.

 

I know what the Eula states. It is the same Boiler plate Eula they have been using for over 20 years. BTW, yes an upgrade edition can be dual boated, because it really is nothing more than a full version, just at a discounted price. It has been that way since Win2k.

 

Yes, that is correct. You can use 8 to image any prev. editions, but cannot use 7 to image newer editions. Now of course, there are better imaging products out there, than what comes standard with Windows, but depending on what you want, it will cost money. You are better to use something like OpenNas on a dedicated computer, or a NAS drive to do the imaging, which is a better way of doing it.

 

If that's the case why are saying it's not a license infringement?

It's rhetorical btw :wave

 

I only used the free Macrium and was able to go from 7 to 8.

I will stay with 8 but if I ever wanted 7 the image is there too.

In a pinch I would use the os disc then find the image on the usb drive as I did this a.m. and image to the 7 or 8 as I need.

Nothing beats the dual boot if you plan on using 2 os systems but I do not, thank you.

I just wanted the next easiest way to do it and be current.

 

Again, there is no license infringement. Microsoft allows you to install the "Upgrade" editions as clean installs, since people complained about it with Win98se, when you had to go through a whole hassle to do a "upgrade". You had to either keep the original install on the hard drive and install the "upgrade", allow it to verify, or insert the original CD during the install process, which was the way with XP pre-SP1.

Now since Vista, all you need is the new key, choose Format & Install out of Custom, and the process will do the rest.

Only time it is infringement, is if you sell the product as a non-Microsoft licensed vendor, but you can "gift" the product to someone or say a church or other non-for-profit.

Really you should read up on this stuff, before just shooting off the hip Earthling, due to the rules here in the U.S., are not as messed up as the EU & UK, when it comes to Microsoft products. It is a little more relaxed here, regarding this matter.

 

If you are only needing to go into the other install for something, I would just do a VM, but really with 8, anything that ran on 7 usually runs on 8, with few exceptions, like RRDTool, and a couple of others that I have come across, that are still hold over code written for XP. But Win8's Compatibility manager does a pretty good job of getting the program to run in backwards compatibility.

 

Thank you for your help - it is appreciated.

When I went back to 7 I really missed some of the bells and whistles of 8.

 

I'm getting heartily sick of your inaccurate, unsupported assertions. Here is what my Win 8 Pro Upgrade EULA actually says -

 

Simple solution- ignore him.

Both of you are squabbling like hens and poor peterr is caught in the middle. Cut it out.

 

Sirrr :major

 

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The section you pulled does not apply to the OP circumstances, and this whole argument is pointless, because it has nothing to do with what the OP inquired about, regarding using an image from a backup on another OS installation.

Also, that part you cut & pasted, has been in the Eula since they started the whole "Upgrade CD/DVD" stuff, when Microsoft started with XP pre-SP1. It is nothing more than lawyerspeak stating that you agree to use this software, at this time, and that is all it is. Does not mean that you are not losing the rights to reinstall a previous edition of Windows, if you do not like the new OS that you installed.

It is basically just Microsoft protecting themselves from those that try to find loopholes around stuff in the agreement, and nothing more.

Again, has nothing to do with the OP original question, and is pretty much irrelevant all together to this whole situation of the topic.

 

rolleyes


Are we not listening to the moderator today?

The conversation is over. Peterr has gone back to Windows 7 and is no longer between you two fighting with each other. Take it to PM!

 

Hi Adrynalyne
I am at 8 actually after learning a lot about both os's and how to image back and forth. While at 7 I missed my 8 but it was only a ten minute click away.
All is stable now.
Thank you
Peter :wave

 

Apologies for the distractions peterr. Pleased you are sorted with your images

 

B.
Never apologize for all the good work you have done - it is appreciated.
Peter