Win 7 Ult no longer boots

Discussion in 'Software' started by Zack is flyy, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Zack is flyy

    Zack is flyy Private E-2

    I recently built my computer and it has been running great for about a month now until yesterday as it was sitting idle i saw it get the BSOD i didn't really think much about it until after reboot it did it again the reason for the blue screen said "cache manager" and now the computer no longer boots. It goes straight into the windows repair and system recovery option in which it no longer shows an operating system. There are no system restore points because it no longer find an operating system. Ive went into cmd prompt and attempted to run sfc /scannow which it said did something but it still doesn't boot and diskpart lists no physical drives on my computer anymore although I can see the drive in the bios. The built in repair tool says it cannot repair the computer automatically and when i attempt chkdsk it says that my disc is write protected.

    I appreciate your help!

    System specs:
    Win 7 Ult
    Barracuda 1 tb 7200 rpm drive
     
  2. brownizs

    brownizs MajorGeek

    Possible bad drive.
     
  3. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    From what I can see, this can be caused by
    Bad memory stick
    Hard drive
    AVG
    Driver update (realtek and ati graphics drivers amongst them).
    and Windows update#
    As you cannot get into system restore, and you built this yourself, I assume you have any program discs, if my suggestion does not work.
    I would put your W7 disc in and start the computer chooes repair, then choose command prompt, and type in at the flashing cursor,
    bootrec.exe fixmbr
    Press Enter
    Type in
    bootrec.exe fixboot
    Press enter
    then exit, and see if it finds the hard drive.
    If you have any extra ram, I understand that can help, and I do believe it is a stop error similar to another I often seen, and this fix from microsoft might help, once you get into windows
    http://support.microsoft.com/hotfix/KBHotfix.aspx?kbnum=979444&kbln=en-us
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2011
  4. Zack is flyy

    Zack is flyy Private E-2

    When i try either of the bootrec.exe commands it says "The system cannot find the path specified"
     
  5. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

  6. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    I have to go off line now= I will look back tommorrow.
    Someone else may come on to help.
     
  7. Zack is flyy

    Zack is flyy Private E-2

    I also ran seatools the hdd diagnostic tool by seagate which my drive was found by it and passed both the short and long test and spun up with the acoustic test which leads me to believe that the drive is fine its just missing something with the mbr or something. Ive tried running bootrec.exe /fixmbr and /fixboot from the cmd prompt on the recovery screen but it still comes up "The system cannot find the path specified" so i ran bootrec /rebuildbsd in which it proceeded to do but found no windows installations although when i use my bios flasher utility I can look through the root files on the HDD so i know its still there. Im still stumped as to why chkdsk /f /r still comes up as "cannot lock current drive" "windows cannot run the disk checking on this volume because it is write protected"

    I guess this all just an update of what ive tried tonight. Another thing to mention is that i cannot find my original Windows 7 ultimate disc I installed from so im booting off of an older Win 7 disc that isn't ultimate.
     
  8. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    On chkdsk you need to do that on C: or D: whichever has your Windows and Users folders.
    So chkdsk C: /r should be the command or possibly chkdsk D: /r if that is the drive with the windows folders.
    If you just type bcdedit at the x:\...> command prompt what does it return? If you get something like this http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb361/Danny_Comellas/Windows.png what does it say under Windows Boot Loader section for the device and path of winload.exe?
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2011
  9. Zack is flyy

    Zack is flyy Private E-2

    I tried chkdsk c: /r and d: /r both of which returned with the response "cannot open volume for direct access" and when i ran bcdedit it returned "the boot configuration utility could not be opened. the requested system device cannot be found".
     
  10. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Try at command prompt going to diskpart and getting a volume list.
    So at the X:> prompt
    diskpart <enter>
    list volume <enter>
     
  11. Zack is flyy

    Zack is flyy Private E-2

    Lol disk part also finds nothing...
     
  12. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Does diskpart find anything with list disk?

    If diskpart doesn't see the HD at all then I don't think the Windows disc is going to be of any use.

    Maybe you should get either the Live Gparted ISO or Parted Magic ISO and burn it to CD as an image using Imgburn's "Write Image File to Disc" option or put it on an empty USB flash drive using USB Creator.

    That would give you the ability to check the disc partitions using both Gparted and Testdisk. And TestDisk can write a generic MBR to the HD if necessary. TestDisk can also just verify that the partition table is OK and then rewrite it to HD which might make the partitions visible to Windows. It seems to me that Windows isn't just saying that there are errors in the file system but that it can't even read the partition table of the disc.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2011
  13. Zack is flyy

    Zack is flyy Private E-2

    "there are no fixed disks to show"
     
  14. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I edited my last answer to say maybe try a Live Linux CD to verify the partition table. I'd say go with parted magic because it also includes the ability to get online from the disc.

    I guess you ran SeaTools from a bootable CD and it found the HD with no issues?
     
  15. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I'll have to think about this but something isn't making sense. You say that when you let Windows try to start it goes immediately to the Repair tools. You are not running repair tools from your installation disc but from the HD. So how is it possible that diskpart says their is no HD attached? It must be starting from the HD.
     
  16. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    I have not dealt with it much, but I wonder if its possible that you have a boot virus.
    I have used the cd version, downloadable of antivirus like AVG, and others, and I keep a copy, as I have only had one on one occasion.
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2011
  17. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    I suppose my boot virus may seem daft, but seeing these problems so often invariably seems to lead to new hard drives.
    I have used an old version of disc wizard to recover many such hard drives, as it is able to solve many such errors, so the thought was put in. Its the sort of hard drive I love to attack , personally.
    Unfortunately as I have not got it, I cannot work on it (I am a glutton for the real pigs like this.
    One thing that I can say, is that I find Windows 7 especially will pick up on a faulty drive, where XP would work o.k- so it could be a defective first sector of the hard drive.
     
  18. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

  19. Zack is flyy

    Zack is flyy Private E-2

    I still haven't been able to get the drive working so i ordered another one, im going to keep working at it until I figure it out id just like to have my desktop running until then and i guess at least ill have two hard drives now. Thanks for the help so far and let me know if you think of any other ideas that i can try. Im going to give the boot virus theory and disc wizard a try once i get my system up and running again.
     
  20. Zack is flyy

    Zack is flyy Private E-2

    Ive been able to now locate my hard drive on my computer when i load the sata drivers thorough a flash drive and i was able to run a chkdsk /x /f /r which did all its work and i was also able to do a bootrec.exe /fixmbr which also said it was successful but still lead to no boot. I decided to go into the rapid storage technology (Ctrl I) in my boot and it showed that my SSD used for cache was in raid 0 (cache) but my main drive was now a non raid drive. following a "tutorial" on another website i decided to set the SSD back to a non raid drive but now im receiving the error during boot saying "missing operating system" but the OS is still there according to cmd and my easy bios flash tool. How can i get my computer to recognize my main hard drive to have an OS on it now?
     
  21. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    I have looked around in case I missed anything.
    In many Microsoft faq's it appears as a hardware fault, if the bootrec does not work.
    I can repeat that a virus scan, using a live cd might pick up something, but I had a thought-
    If it is a virus that affects the Bios, then is it not worth powering off, switch off power supply, press start buton for a few seconds to drain power from pc, then remove cmos battery for 5 minutes, and replace. On restart press f2/del whuchever button gets you into you bios setup, and choose load defaults,and then f10 to accept changes, and see if this will ensure bios is reset.
    I can't think of much else if that does not work- Sach2 is betterat the technical side, if he comes back,or, anyone else who might have a possible solution.
    I suppose it could be worth trying the windows 7 disc to set up a new partition, and strinking the old one-if it cn see it, and if it can make the last partition around 50gb, and see if it will install ther. If this works, then you can get any data that you have not managed to get off it. Perhaps Sach2, or, someone else can then show you how to resurrect the original operating C: partition by replacing any damaged files from there. If it works, and you cannot resurrect the original, then as far as I can see it has to be a fault on the hard drive. If it does work, it could be the first sector of the hard drive that is faulty.
     
  22. Zack is flyy

    Zack is flyy Private E-2

    I seem to be making progress my drive and OS now show up in the repair tool unfortunetly it says i have no restore points. I remember trying these changes http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-57789.html the day before my computer BSOD which was so i could switch between them. I didn't heed his warning when it said to back up the registry which was stupid of me. Perhaps that's what is causing my computer not to boot now? How can i edit the registry on my hard drive with my OS and save the changes so i can try it the way it was by hand? Also my Startup repair tool keeps coming up with the error "StartupRepairToolOffline" and Sfc /scannow still says "A system repair is pending please restart and tun sfc again."
     
  23. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer


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