win 98 problem

my windows 98 wont shut down it just sits on my desktop immage and will sit there for a long time and wont shut down or restart.. anyone know what i can do to fix this. like is there anything i can do in win98 itself thax

 

This may help id forgotten all about it until Acejones posted it a few threads back
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;239887

Edit OOPS sorry Xflat guess ive saved him hunting down the patch

 

is it purly software? will it shut down if you hold the power button for 6 seconds?

 

Shutting down Win 98SE

This will not fix your current problem, but once your prob is sorted, below is an alternate way of shutting down and rebooting. Create 2 shortcuts as per that article below, courtesy of "Wicked" Wanda from the Bangkok post.

Check out http://www.majorgeeks.com/vb/showthread.php?t=27997 for previous thread on same subject.

Baz

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How to shut down your computer without hitting 'start'

Some tricks to teach Windows
By Wanda Sloan, Bangkok Post, March 8, 2000
Way back in the 1900s, computer users would turn on their machines, wait
maybe 30 seconds, and begin work. After their work, they would turn off
their machines and head for the showers to clean up for the disco. That
was it-on, off via a button, the way the gods always meant machines to be
run. Now the 1900s are over. In more ways that one. The machines are in
control. We wait for them, we work for them. Turn your computer on now,
and you wait. And wait. And wait and wait. Then you get to type in a
password, or hit Enter or Escape or something equally ridiculous on your
own computer in your own home. The reason is that you aren't allowed to go
away during the boot process, to get a cup of coffee or smoke a cigarette,
even though there is plenty of time.
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About the "time-saver" work on the computer-another time. But consider
when it's time to end your session. You can't just turn the machine off
and get on with your life. Here is what most people do: They click on the
Start button-"start" to quit, you have to love the sense of humour at
Microsoft headquarters, which is as subtle as Lor Tok hitting you over the
head with a hammer. Now click on Shut Down. Now, heh-heh, click on a
different Shut Down. Now click on "Yes, OK, I didn't make a mistake, I
really want you to shut down, pretty please." And eventually the computer
will thrash and complain and groan and shut down, or at least reach the
happy state where you can turn off the blasted thing.
All this shutdown stuff is necessary. Windows can run many parallel
processes, and some of them involve your data. If Windows is not stopped
logically and progressively, process by process, some of them will get
corrupted or unlinked-and some of that will inevitably be your data.
Still, you can, if you wish, hit the Off button-of course you can, it is
your computer. And if you do, then the next time you start, the computer
will run a full diagnostics and disk check, while you watch. This is the
computer's version of sending you to your room for punishment.
There is an alternative to this. A computer can be as easy to control as a
man, if you learn the tricks. Instead of contributing to your developing
carpal tunnel syndrome with four mouse clicks in four different menu
choices, you can click one icon, one time and watch the machine wither and
stop politely to your command. You can do it with a shortcut. While we are
at it we might as well create two shortcuts. One will be for quitting, and
one will be for restarting the computer, an often necessary step to get
back the memory hogged by Internet browsers, reset the desktop or various
other problems.
You create a shortcut by placing your mouse cursor on any blank part of
your basic screen. (This is known as the desktop because it doesn't look
anything like a desk and it is at right angles to your real desktop.) Hit
the right button of your mouse. Slide the mouse down to "New" and then
slide it down to "shortcut" as successive menus open. In the box that pops
up, in the Command Line entry, type this line exactly, complete with the
space and the comma. It all goes on one line of course:
C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE User.exe,exitwindows
Click Next, and type in "Shutdown" in the box. Click Next, and Finish.
Now, quickly make another shortcut called Restart. This time in the
Command Line, put:
C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE User.exe,exitwindowsexec
You should have two new icons on your screen, with the labels you created.
These are, in effect, new programs. Double-click them like any other
icons, and they will run. In other words, you can restart or shut down
your own computer easily, instead of the complicated, drawn out way you
have been doing it.
This actually is a bit of a trick. In effect, you are making Windows run a
programming command that normally would be found in a script or a compiled
Windows program. It will not work on most Windows NT machines, and it will
not work on early Windows 95. But it is fine for most computers and
Windows of the past couple of years.
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You also don't have to accept that default shortcut icon that Windows
assigned to your spiffy new programs, either. During the process of making
shortcuts, you may be presented with some choices for an icon. And you can
change a shortcut icon at any time: Right-click the shortcut, and then
choose Properties, Shortcut, and Change Icon.
One good place to find some colourful icons is the Pif Manager. Choose
Browse and go to
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Pifmgr.dll,
it should open up a window of possible icons for you, and double-clicking
any icon will put it on your shortcut for you. The ones I chose should be
around here somewhere.
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then why did you post this? he wasn't asking for an alternative shutdown method.

 

What can you say
Its Wicked Wanda from Bangkok doing tricks

 

oh brother...wicked wanda sounds like a pRon name...

 

Win 98 shutdown

This patch may be the same as the posts below but try it (if the ones below don't work).
www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/contents/WURecommended/S_WUFeatured/Win98SE/Default.asp

Courtesy of UK Magazine PC Utilities Issue 21, p32.

Baz
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Win 98 Shutdown

To all,

M$ patch doesn't always work on my PC. I should have posted the M$ patch address first before I posted the alternate shutdown, but I could'nt find it quickly as the other post..

As to "Wicked" Wanda, she is a journalist of good PC repute. Check out the Bangkok Post site sometime, of if you can get it, check out Australia's Internet Directory monthly magazine.
Probably not available in the USA. Wanda Sloan has an article every month in that magazine.

Dont be so quick to dump on people trying to help.

Baz
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Not dumping at all...but the first thing you posted was, and I quote, "This will not fix your current problem" so I was wondering why you posted it. thats all.

as for wicked wanda...i was commenting on her name, not her expertise. I think its funny, you may not. life goes on.

here is a link i just posted in another thread similiar to this one. Its specifically for the Windows 98 no-shutdown crowd:
http://aumha.org/win4/a/shtdwnse.php

 

Win 98 Shutdown

I should have said "these will work until you sort out your problems..."
Various posts below will probably fix the problem, but you can still install the shortcuts and use them as an alternative to going through "Start", etc.

Bazza.

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