Win XP installed.... Need to change back to Win 98! Help!

Discussion in 'Software' started by travelite, May 7, 2005.

  1. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    Hello everyone!

    While trying to be helpful, my son took my old compaq laptop to school and installed Win XP..... it runs like a dog now... takes forever to open or close anything! I researched that the specs for my system barely qualify for XP. I want my Windows 98 back!

    I only use the old laptop when I go on long trips and (I don't travel often) so I have only just discovered the problem. I am going to asia on Monday and was counting on it for email and internet only.

    Could some one please tell me how to do this in simple terms or direct me to a good resource? I don't know if Win 98 is still inside it anymore or not :eek: but I do have a Win 98 CD. I just don't know much about formating or even if it is needed. I do know all of the things that I must do once I get 98 se back from my reading on this forum.... thanks MajorGeeks eversomuch!

    Oh, I just saw that besides my local disk (C:) I also have a "system_save" (D:), in addition to an floppy(A:) and CD(E:). My HD was replaced in 2000 and perhaps the tech made the D drive. It can't be anything that I need now.... Sorry but I don't understand partitions if this is one.

    Cheers,
    travelite :D
     
  2. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    Sorry, for:

    I guess you cant use parenthesis without getting a :D . It should read

    Oh, I just saw that besides my local disk C, I also have a "system_save" D, in addition to an floppy A and CD, E drives. My HD was replaced in 2000 and perhaps the tech made the D drive. It can't be anything that I need now.... Sorry but I don't understand partitions if this is one.

    travelite
     
  3. pohl

    pohl Private E-2

    if you can, install your win 98 se cd and boot to cd......go thought the setup and it will ask you if you want to format or not....make sure you DO... then just follow the rest of the setup process
     
  4. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    Thank you for replying pohl! I just want to be clear. Should I format/reformat? There is nothing that I need on the laptop.

    I am afraid of choosing wrong answers during the process.

    Thanks again,
    travelite
     
  5. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    Help! I've tried to boot to the CD but XP loads.... taking almost 5 min. Computer is off, insert cd, turn computer on. Am I doing it wrong?

    travelite
     
  6. btw

    btw Private E-2

    Make sure that the cd drive is boot enabled, go into your bios and set it to be a boot device BEFORE your hard disk drive. You should then be able to boot to the cd!
     
  7. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    Could you tell me how to do that please? Is this something that I will need to change back?
    Thank you,
    travelite
     
  8. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    When you first turn the system on press F1 at the Initial screen. Your BIOS Menu screen will come up, go to the boot section of the menu, select CD-ROM as your first boot device. C: as your second, and if you have a floppy make it the 3rd boot device.
     
  9. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    Thank you Shadow_Puter_Dude. Have checked BIOS. The loading order was:

    A:floppy
    D:which is the System_Backup which was from when my HD was replaced.
    C:

    I did not see an E drive listed. This is now my CD drive. How can I fix this?

    The windows 98 disc runs when I boot the computer and I do get an odd black screen with a white line at the bottom for a short time, but then XP loads.

    travelite
     
  10. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    You need to select the Menu Item for the drive you want to change, when you press the spacebar it should cycle through the drive choices.
     
  11. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    I changed the BIOS to read the CD first but XP still continues to load even though the 98cd is in the drive when I restart the laptop.

    Do you have any other suggestions? I am getting pretty flustered but am grateful for the help!

    travelite
     
  12. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    OK, if it is loading XP, that means you do not have a bootable CD. You will need to boot from floppy and then load 98. If you don't have a 98 Boot Floppy download it from here Windows 98SE Startup Disk

    Save it to your Desktop, Insert blank floppy in drive, Double-Click File, Follow Prompts.

    Change your first boot drive back to A: Floppy, boot the computer with the Floppy in the drive.
     
  13. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    Thanks again! Have the floppy..... now, please tell me the procedure to get from the floppy to the cd. I would want to wipe my HD correct? I am worried about responding incorrectly to a prompt.

    travelite
     
  14. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    The floppy ran. I chose minimal boot. Now I have an A:\ prompt

    travelite
     
  15. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Also, if he changed the filesystem to NTFS (like your supposed to) you need to format as FAT32. Had he left the filesystem intact, it would be faster, but not as secure.
     
  16. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    what do i do next? please help!

    travelite
     
  17. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Major Attitude, brought up a valid point.

    If the file system is NTFS, then we need to prepare the drive for Win98.

    Do you know the maker of your C drive?
     
  18. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    no, sorry. it is a Compaq 1920.
     
  19. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    At A: prompt, you need to change to your CD drive, if your not sure, you can guess.

    Its probably the d or e drive.

    Try:

    "d:\setup" and hit enter

    If it fails, try

    "e:\setup" and hit enter

    Of course you could read my FAQ I wrote on it:
    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=25831
     
  20. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    ok! i got it to read the cd drive! i needed to enter E:\setup.exe .... no one mentioned the .exe part and i did not know better.

    now it says:

    thank you, shadow-computer-dude and major attitude for all of your help thus far but, i need more.....

    and yes, i would murder my son if he were not 750mi away!

    travelite
     
  21. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    gawd! i really messed up that quote! i'm getting tired and have so much to do. it should end:

    travelite
     
  22. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

  23. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

  24. travelite

    travelite Private E-2

    thank you for the link shadow_computer_dude! i will try the contents of that article if i have to.

    i skulked around my laptop and was able to determine that i have 2 partitions.

    C drive file system is NTFS
    3.91GB with 2.11 free space

    D drive file system is FAT 32
    2.14GB

    Intel Pentium II
    298 Mhz

    64 Mb Memory
    6.16 Mb Available Memory
    235 MB Virtual Memory
    30 MB Available Memory

    i suspect that it is the memory part that keeps the XP soooo sloooow.
    can someone confirm this for me? if so i will try to do the fdisk thing.

    yes, i did read major attitudes article but i think that my situation is a bit different.

    thanks for all of the help so far!

    travelite
     
  25. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Your going to have to repartition the drive, Win98 can not read nor utilize a NTFS partition. Also you will want to Partition the drive a a Single FAT32 partiton.
     
  26. Wyatt_Earp

    Wyatt_Earp MajorGeek

    "i suspect that it is the memory part that keeps the XP soooo sloooow."

    Yes, partly the memory, and partly the processor.

    And, yes, you'll need to "do the fdisk thing." you'll want to delete both partitions on the computer. One will be a primary partition, and the other will be an extended dos partition. (NTFS might show up as an extended DOS partition though, so they may both be under there.

    Then, you'll want to follow the directions in shadow's link:
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255867#XSLTH3144121122120121120120

    You'll want a FAT32 partition using up all the space on the drive.

    After you do all that, then you'll go back to e:Setup.exe
     

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