windows defender

hi all and a great new year,
i run w2k pro sp4 and have defender up and running (?),
today on boot up i recieved an error message saying defender had been disabled (or words to that effect), when i checked my event logs i found this,

source - service control manager
event id - 7023
description - the windows defender service terminated with the following error,
the system licence has expired. your logon request is denied

so i uninstalled and then reinstalled defender but got the same, i tried to start it manually but no joy,
has this anything to do with microsoft and their withdrawal of support for defender in w2k ?,
losing defender won't be much of a problem as i have spybot, spywareblaster and ad-aware pro, but any info would be nice
ta

 

hi,
it was the beta version, would i have any problems with defender if i tried to install the finished version on w2k, i know its only for 2003 and xp, but it would be nice to have,
as a note - i have the gdiplus.dll in my system32,

 

Problems are being seen more then just random occurances with Defender. See the thread @ http://www2.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17552744

 

I work for an isp, and this morning i took 12 calls stating windows defender service connection errors, probably something abrewing.

 

>> I work for an ISP, and this morning I took 12 calls stating windows defender service connection errors, probably something a brewing. Colemanguy <<

Colemanguy is correct. And my advice would be for anyone running any computer and wanting "real-time protection;" would be to either not install this software in the first place or uninstall it immediately ASAP (if you have it installed)… IMO - Windows "defender" should actually be called Windows "defenseless" – lol.

This is probably one of the most useless piece "puter-poop" of a so-called real-time protection software I have ever tested! This Windows Defender program "protects" your computer from "threats" from the Internet; about as well as the XP firewall does (meaning not at all).

The MS Main website page for Windows Defender boldly claims: "Microsoft researchers quickly develop methods to counteract these threats, which are automatically downloaded to your PC, so you stay up-to-date." What a joke! The last time I tested Windows Defender my "testing computer" I proceeded to purposely download and then install several programs that are well known to contain adware/spyware/trojans/worms…

The adware infections were: Bald Eagle Screensaver Adware, BigTrafficNetwork Adware, and Block Checker. The spyware infections were: Abotus Trojan, Adpower.b Dialer, and BAT.Eversaw Worm. Windows Defenseless "protected" my computer about as well as a drunken, crack addicted nanny! None of these infections were detected - either when I downloaded them or before or after I installed them! None, zip, nada!

And its predecessor, MS AntiSpyware was just as bad. But when MS AntiSpyware ran at least users were given a choice as to whether or not to remove anything deemed "unsuitable." Windows Defender doesn't. It seems to operate on it’s own giving little or no warning (or record) as to what it actually does and does not do

And that "update bug" mentioned earlier in this thread; has existed since Windows Defender; and Microsoft Antispyware first came into existence. When I tested the last version, just about every single time the program tried to update Windows Defender; I received an error message and then my "testing computer" would lock up and I’d have to restart the PC and/or plug and then unplug (power-start) my modem again in order to get the Internet connection to work again!

I went to the "relevant" MSKB webpage:
MSKB Article ID: 915105 "Check for new definitions" warning after you install Windows Defender (which is incredibly STILL up and running in on MSKB and was last updated on December 25, 2006!). Well there was no joy in mudville, folks! I followed all of the directions on that page and surprise, surprise - the problem remained!

Good Luck!

 

Compuable,
Thanks for the info.I'm removing it pronto.

VAN

 

>> Compuable, Thanks for the info. I'm removing it pronto. VAN << Evanhoe

Oh, anytime Van... My pleasure, really!

Side Note: I certainly hope that anyone in here viewing my last post doesn't get the wrong impression here and thinks that I'm "anti-Microsoft" or something like that - because I am definitely not.

They actually make some terrific "shareware" programs such as Office and I actually really like the Windows XP OS (Home and/or Pro). Regardless of all of the whining that goes on about Win XP, there is nothing even near its capability and speed; available in the "open" tech market for "PC computer" users' operating systems.

It's quite true that literally tens of thousands of hackers are more likely go after and "attack" XP because it is "popular" and by doing so they often cause problems. But in my opinion, Microsoft has gotten much better at offering prompt updates to thwart such exploitations efforts; since Win 95, 98 and 2000 were dominant OS's.

However, I test new programs as a sort of "hobby" and I can tell you without a doubt that almost all of Microsoft's malware-related "freebie" efforts like Windows Defender, the monthly download of the Malicious Software Removal Tool, and Microsoft AntiSpyware, etc. have thus far at least been utterly useless for those users who are seeking effective "real-time" protection for their computers. And the first two I mentioned - Defender and the MSRT - are not even worth the time it takes to download them IMO.

Additionally, Microsoft’s so-called "add-ons" which are installed with XP - such as the Internet Explorer Browser, and "Disk Cleaner" and their Disk Defragmentation Tool (and even their Windows Firewall & Security Center) are extremely inferior in quality to many other much better products; both freeware and shareware, which are currently available in the tech market.

Why do I still continue to test the various new versions of these freebies and add-ons as they are released? Because you never know - someday they may actually get it right! - lol ... However for the time being, I'm not at all impressed with their sub-standard performances and IMO users would be far better off (and much safer) by seeking other alternatives to the currently inferior Microsoft freebies and add-ons.

Good Luck!

 

Compuable,
Keep up your good work.I also like Microsoft (despite all),and I'm not about to change now!

VAN