Whole damn thing just died on me.

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by findmeg, May 22, 2006.

  1. findmeg

    findmeg Private E-2

    My computer that is. It's been running fine and there were no problems with it until yesterday night that is when I was checking my mail (and therefore not on a virus prone site), and suddenly it shut down with the message "power suspended" and refused to switch back on. The CPU switches on to the extent of lighting up but not doing anything, while the monitor just says "no signal." So I switched it off at the plug in the hope that that it would be alright by mornin but it's not. It is just rubbish quite frankly, and I really need to get it working because it has a 8000 word essay on war literature which I cannot write again, but need to get into uni. I am so desparate I am willing to hook a cable into my arm as a type of IV to bring it back to life.
    ...I am also computer retarded, so vaguely simple instructions would be nice.

    Meg
     
  2. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Welcome to MG's .... and we feel your pain!! Let's start with a few suggestions. Unplug the computer, switch the little red switch in the back from 110 to 220 and then back again, next, while it is still unplugged, push and hold the power switch in front for about 30 sec. Plug back in and see if it will start. Post back.
     
  3. viper_boy403

    viper_boy403 MajorGeek

    that sucks man, i had/have the same problem. check out the posts on my problem: http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91836 (start at the beginning, we got kinda off topic lol) Im testing my CPU today to find out if its the mobo or the CPU. Its not a power supply problem tho, i tried 2 different ones with the same result.
     
  4. hype

    hype Private E-2

    Make sure no wires have become loose on your motherboard. Be sure to push all them back in as this has happened to me.
     
  5. findmeg

    findmeg Private E-2

    tim: ermmm...what red switch? I can't see one in mine, whereabouts shout I be looking? Also I have one of those storm plug thingys which stops my computer from getting a power surge in really bad weather, so is it okay if I just unplug the mains?

    viper boy: thank you, but I only really know the alphabet so I don't understand those abbreviations and what in the name of hell they all mean. But thanks

    hype: my motherboard? which is inside my cpu? if it means i have to take it apart...i don't even have a screwdriver so I may save this for last :)
     
  6. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    OK ...... the little red (maybe black) switch is at the top, back of your case ...next to or above where your power plugs into the computer ....should show 110/220 on it.
    You can unplug the computer and then push and hold the power up switch for 30 seconds .....but it probably won't help (this +resets the power supply).
    My guess is that you have a blown power supply ...stick your nose to the back of the computer where the power supply fan exhausts and see if it smells slightly of burnt leather ....if so ....time for a new ps.
    Power supply will run $40 + depending and is easy to replace ....but you need a screw driver!!!
    Lastly, bypass your surge protector and plug directly into a wall outlet to eliminate the surge protector as being blown. Report back!!
    We'll keep trying to help.
    The last resort ....if your in a time pinch, would be to take out your hard drive and slave it into another computer so that you can get your reports off of it. Will explain that if needed.
     
  7. Matacumbie

    Matacumbie Rocky Top

    I think TimW might be correct. But just to say you checked it, check the cable running from the monitor to the back of the computer, make sure both connections are tight.

    Steve
     
  8. findmeg

    findmeg Private E-2

    TimAlright, the switch at the back of unit seems to be behind the panel and actually says 230, can't switch this back and forth without unscrewing the panel bit.
    Tried the 30 second hold thing, but that hasn't helped, still getting the no signal msg.
    The power supply exhaust doesn't smell of burnt leather at all...doesn't really smell of anything.
    Bypassed the surge protector and nothing happened.
    However, the good news, I realised I've saved my essay onto a disk anyway so I now have that and don't need to worry about it, but I'd still like my pc to live. Do you think rebooting the entire system from the CD would work?

    Matacumbie I didn't actually think of this but yeah they're both secure.
     
  9. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Hmmmm..... give a little more description of what's happening .... the no signal means the cpu isn't sending a signal to the monitor ... so I've assumed that although the "computer lights up" ...it doesn't do anything ... do you hear fans running ...do you hear any beeps when it starts ..... you switched it off at the plug? Do you mean the toggle switch in the back? Are you sure you haven't left it in the off position?
     
  10. findmeg

    findmeg Private E-2

    No, the computer definately doesn't start up, the fans don't start nothing happens, the monitor only gives the no signal sign. I can't see if the toggle switch is off or on but I wouldn't have been able to switch it off as it is under the screwed on panel. no way I could've done that. There nothing else I can say, this is all that's happening.
     
  11. geekinthemaking

    geekinthemaking Private E-2

    Hey does the monitor receive it's power independently or is the power cable plugged into the computer's ps? If it gets its power from the wall then it will say 'no signal input' as long as it doesn't get any info from the cpu - so if that is your setup it sounds like your ps has blown - btw, I replaced my friend's ps yesterday, didn't smell anything or notice anything strange either - thing just 'died' (old age I guess)
     
  12. geekinthemaking

    geekinthemaking Private E-2

    Hey does the monitor receive its power independently or is the power cable plugged into the computer's ps? If the monitor's plugged into your wall and gets it's power apart from the computer then it will say 'no signal input' as long as it doesn't get info from the cpu and that's normal. If this is your setup then I'd agree, sounds like your ps has blown. Btw, I replaced my friend's ps yesterday - the thing didn't smell strange or look weird or anything, just 'died' (old age I guess)...
     
  13. geekinthemaking

    geekinthemaking Private E-2

    sorry for double entry got a bit click-happy ignore 11 please!!!
     
  14. findmeg

    findmeg Private E-2

    There are two cables, one's linked into the cpu and ones plugged into the surge protecter. Does the power supply affect the drives as well? Because mine aren't open...I only got this computer like a 1 year and a half ago which is quite annoying. But thanks!
     
  15. geekinthemaking

    geekinthemaking Private E-2

    ok it sounds like the monitor is powered seperately - so don't worry about the 'no signal' message - the issue does sound like the ps, if it's has blown chances are pretty good nothing else has been damaged, but unfortunately, you wont be able to do anything or run a diagnostic tool on your pc unless you can power it up - so no power, no pc!!! (It's pretty easy to replace a ps though, just be sure you get one big enough to support all the stuff on your system - a 350W or so - depending :eek:)
     
  16. closet haxzor

    closet haxzor Private E-2

    If theres a cable coming from the power supply to the CPU, thats for the CPU fan. Don't worrie about that. You might want to test your power supply with a voltimeter. To see if its good.
     
  17. Dawnpatrol

    Dawnpatrol Private First Class

    By CPU she's referring to the computer case. Not to the actual cpu. Findmeg, the cpu is a chip inside the computer. That is what closet haxzor is referring to. Just so you are not confused by his statement.
     
  18. thesunscreen

    thesunscreen Specialist

    a quick test of the powersupply to see if it is dead, or something else is all done. This is to be done when you are about to replace the power supply. To see if the discounect the big plug from the motherboard (12 to 14 wires go into this plug so you can't mistake it) then take a paper clip and cross the green wire, with the blackwire next to it. If the fan comes on, it may not be bad. If not toss the thing out get a new one, four screws, and a few conectors, and you'll be back running again.
     
  19. findmeg

    findmeg Private E-2

    Thanks for the help, think I'm going to replace the power supply, but thanks again for all the help given!
     

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