Microsoft Windows Vista now available

Halo, did you hear anything about the PV eating up free space? Could it just be my version? I used Nero 6.6 to burn the ISO file if that could make a difference. Any body else reporting mysterious drive space use?

 

I sent a problem report to M$ last night about this, and I posted a thread on here last week asking if anyone else had the same problem. My problem is that what XP MCE 05 is reporting and what Vista is reporting for the same partitions is way far apart, even going to the command prompt for either version gets me different numbers, I don't mean a couple of mb's either, on the C partition where XP lives it reports a 6gb difference then what Vista reports for the same partition, and on the Vista partition XP reports a 2 gb difference in what Vista reports, the command prompt for either system is a lot closer to what XP says, but I can't find any 2 that match, further Norton agrees with what XP sees, but Norton will not run on Vista so I can't say what it says there. Really glad to see others having this problem besides me, And like I said it has been brought to M$ attention!

 

Well..... No they updated all of them, but according to M$ there is about 12 hotfixes coming for beta 2 Hmmm too short gotta lenghten it by 4 characters...oopppss just did

 

BTW, AVG now works with Vista, even 5472 thanks to MS fixing their code. We are still stuck with the Vista FW but at least we have something to choose from for a free A/V.

 

Press release http://www.avgfree.com/doc/31753/lng/us/tpl/tpl01

 

I didn't really think it was Nero. I burned at 2.5 and had no problem with the install.

Any idea why I would have full folder PV's? Is there a setting I missed? I mean system restore in XP has settings for disk space use, maybe I changed something by mistake when I was changing permissions in the Reg?

 

so if your pc is capable with vista
check with this one
Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor

i tried to dig MG, cant find


infoseeker

 

Tahnks alot man

 

Oh man, I'm having wayyy tooooo muuuuch fun in Vista with this speech recognition. It's not there yet and maybe a long time from being there! But I feel it coming! I have 5472 and I can't wait for RC1! It's a pain to train but fun never the less.

 

Vista hacked at Black Hat
Researcher bypasses a security mechanism designed to prevent some driver software from running in the Windows update.


http://news.com.com/Vista+hacked+at+Black+Hat/2100-7349_3-6102458.html?tag=nl

 

I suppose it all comes down to common sense and education in the end. I just thought with Microsoft "Daring" people to get past the much hyped security of Vista it was kind of funny.

 

I agree she didn't "Hack" the system in the most common use of the word and with them all trying to figure out a way it was probably going to happen. Users just have to be more careful not to feel more confident than they should using Vista.

 

I couldn't download from the site. Is the trial still avialable?

 

Nope, vista beta 2 is now closed. Unless you are a subscriber to MSDN that is.

RC1 will be the next public release, and only if you downloaded and Activated beta 2.

Besides, the small issues with explorer crashing when I try to delete a folder on the desktop, I have no issues, besides movie maker.

I really do not understand the nay-sayers about vista on the interweb.

 

Seems like the ones who missed out on Beta 2 will still get a chance at RC1.

From pronetworks

 

Yes, Halo, I did upgrade from XP. As soon as I buy a larger drive, I will re-install vista, since a fresh load at work runs great. Just took awhile to get the surround to work, but I got it working.

I'm loving Vista quite a bit, except for the explorer crashes when hovering a mouse over a folder on the desktop. Windows then pops up, later, saying "This is fixed in the upcoming RC1 build of Vista".

I simply bring up my handy cmd prompt and go to town.

Also, been browsing the registry changes, which, btw, I have been following since the nt4 days.

Looking forward to the new windows command shell. Been a beta tester since it first came when net2.0 was also a beta.

Still, love to know how to get into Tap. TB?

 

Well, I got on, during the PUBLIC beta 2.

Now the company I work for has a "partnership" with Microsoft. Gold plan (I think). We get monthly "how to sell MS products to the masses", along with all their software "1 year subscription", for SBS 2003 premium, and tons of other products. Which is good since our evaluation sbs 2003 server will expire in 30 days, Going to use the sbs 2003 server from MS to upgrade.

Can't really remember what program it is. I was hoping that it was TAP. Asked the Boss, and he had no clue what I was talking about. :| Cost us a mere $400 for this plan.

Funny thing is, I have access to a lot of betas from MS Connect, just not vista. Been on connect for almost 2 years. Well, started with beta.microsoft.com But, just can't get the Vista beta. Ergh.



Heck, I even beta tested AOL 1.0, way back when.

Sorry for the rant.

Hmm, just noticed that I have 2 updates for vista.

Now that is something. I LOVE windows updates within vista. 100 times faster than xp and 2k, which were slow compared to 9x.

 

I'll have to check this out tomorrow when I get back to work. Thanks for the link (Ctrl + D).

 

Vista 5536 is up on Connect right now. Get it before MS servers get slow. There's no x64 yet.

 

Okay...this is killing me!!!!!

Now that I am obviously interested in computers and will be persuing something in the IT world soon, I hope...I am just curious how you guys and whoever else that is involved...got involved in the first place!!

I'm always hearing about so and so testing such and such product, and microsoft always is giving stuff to people to test etc., etc.!! I can understand If you work for a computer magazine or a large corporation who happens to be partners with micrsoft or something to that effect, but I'm also reading and hearing of tidbits that practically anyone can participate if they have the know-how. Perhaps I'm not reading into this correctly or am I missing something just because I never asked!?!?

Unfortunately I didn't see this thread about this Vista release until it was too late, so I guess I missed that one too, but can someone kind of fill me in on how an individual would become involved in such activities...or isn't it even possible?!?!

Please excuse my ignorance if I am talking out of my butt here!!!!

Roger

 

In my case, a friend recommended me for an account to Connect after the public Beta was closed. You will get a chance to get RC1 next month as MS is opening that up to the public. Rummage around at connect.microsoft.com

 

So I need to get an invitation from someone to do what I'm talking about...other that the "public releases"??

Roger

 

So here the link for the pre RC-1 32 bits only http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/prerc1/en/download.html

 

I'm now on Vista Pre-RC1 5536. Wow, what a great difference from the public Beta 2 release. I know there are a few bugs with this one, but, my machine is running MUCH faster now.

BTW, unless I'm wrong here, which I don't think I am. If you were part of the Public beta 2 release, you can use the same key to activate this release, and when in 2 weeks the Public RC1 gets released, you can use the same key.

What I mean by this, is I downloaded Pre-RC1 at work, updated our test machine to this build, brought the cd home, and upgraded my home machine, with the same cd, but using different keys. Since this is the same ISO.

Also, if memory serves me, the key is acceptable for 10 computers.

BTW, the upgrade didn't work on my home computer, Explorer kept crashing, but a simple "end task" to the explorer process, enabled me to startup the setup file, via the command prompt.

 

Hehehe OK this should get a reaction real fast.

I just downloaded and installed the new version of Vista 5536 on my computer listed below! Was easy enough and only a few minor install problems, first since the Poweredge does not have a DVD drive (....yet!) Installed it using a virtual DVD drive, it asked me for my RAID drivers and as it does on any computer did not see the nvidia card or the NIC card. This was sloved by getting the latest drivers for both and installing them. The device manager in Vista sees all four processors, all the RAM, none of the SCSI cards and sees the PERC2sc/RAID card, now the welcome center sees only 2 of the processors and if I try to have it go through and look again it's BSOD time, so I don't ask it that anymore. Other then that it runs just fine sees all the drives, etc. The real comedy in this of course is the fact that M$ says you need an 800mhz processor or better to run Vista, but it is doing very well on this with a higher processor rating then on my Dell 1ghz PIII! ANd yes I am using the same CD key that M$ issued me for Beta 2 and yes it is for 10 computers.

 

Not sure if the rating system even considers quad cpus or even dual cpus.

 

I'm not sure either but I know the rating system listed only 2 of them but when it went to re-rate it after installing the new nVidia drivers it was BSOD when it got to the processor part, so my guess is No it doesn't rate 4 cpu's. But it is fun to watch Vista snap around in this thing!

 

Hope its better then 5536, the more they fix the more that goes wrong with it.

 

im gonna get a 48 k spectrum with a tape loader that should bugger up bill and his world conquering days

 

The problems I am having with 5536 is all other builds of Vista had a M$ driver of sorts for my nVidia card, this one doesn't and in typical XP fashion it only sees 2 of my processors, it loads very fast on mine, but I think it's a combination of the RAM upgrade (up to 4gb now) and the multple processors and improvements in the build. I am amazed it runs on this at all, but it does very well with the exception of two driver problems which were easy to fix. Kind of looking forward to the Final version.

 

Loaded up nice through XP in 33 minutes including the performance check, but I still can't boot off of the DVD. BIOS is set for the DVD so I don't understand why, but it's up and running. Now to go and install the x64 version for the first time. I hope the drivers are there!

 

Not all connect users can get the RC1 build.

 

You are correct, I got an invite through a friend for Vista after submitting my reasons to join. It was not a done deal, but Wendy, who takes care of this, liked what I said. I'm not a beta tester per se, I don't have the patience to test say 4015, but I enjoy it in the latter stages when things work fairly well and I don't have to kill myself just trying to get drivers to work.I can only receive Vista related dl's etc., everything else is off limits for me.

 

X64 installed without a complaint. It recognized everything I have, including AC'97 sound. I'm quite surprised they made that much progress! Now to see if my printer works, it printed in x86 but the software wouldn't load on the 2360 Deskjet and I won't even try to get my Scanjet going. Not yet at least.

EDIT: BTW ASUS A8N-E