100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political threads.

IRAQ

1. The Bush Administration has spent more than $140 billion on a war of choice in Iraq.

Source: American Progress

2. The Bush Administration sent troops into battle without adequate body armor or armored Humvees.

Sources: Fox News, The Boston Globe

3. The Bush Administration ignored estimates from Gen. Eric Shinseki that several hundred thousand troops would be required to secure Iraq.

Source: PBS

4. Vice President Cheney said Americans "will, in fact, be greeted as liberators" in Iraq.

Source: The Washington Post

5. During the Bush Administration's war in Iraq, more than 1,000 US troops have lost their lives and more than 7,000 have been injured.

Source: globalsecurity.org

6. In May 2003, President Bush landed on an aircraft carrier in a flight suit, stood under a banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished," and triumphantly announced that major combat operations were over in Iraq. Asked if he had any regrets about the stunt, Bush said he would do it all over again.

Source: Yahoo News

7. Vice President Cheney said that Iraq was "the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9/11." The bipartisan 9/11 Commission found that Iraq had no involvement in the 9/11 attacks and no collaborative operational relationship with Al Qaeda.

Source: MSNBC , 9-11 Commission

8. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said that high-strength aluminum tubes acquired by Iraq were "only really suited for nuclear weapons programs," warning "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." The government's top nuclear scientists had told the Administration the tubes were "too narrow, too heavy, too long" to be of use in developing nuclear weapons and could be used for other purposes.

Source: New York Times

9. The Bush Administration has spent just $1.1 billion of the $18.4 billion Congress approved for Iraqi reconstruction.

Source: USA Today

10. According to the Administration's handpicked weapon's inspector, Charles Duelfer, there is "no evidence that Hussein had passed illicit weapons material to al Qaeda or other terrorist organizations, or had any intent to do so." After the release of the report, Bush continued to insist, "There was a risk--a real risk--that Saddam Hussein would pass weapons, or materials, or information to terrorist networks."

Sources: New York Times, White House news release

11. According to Duelfer, the UN inspections regime put an "economic strangle hold" on Hussein that prevented him from developing a WMD program for more than twelve years.

Source: Los Angeles Times

TERRORISM

12. After receiving a memo from the CIA in August 2001 titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack America," President Bush continued his monthlong vacation.

Source: CNN.com

13. The Bush Administration failed to commit enough troops to capture Osama bin Laden when US forces had him cornered in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan in November 2001. Instead, they relied on local warlords.

Source: csmonitor.com

14. The Bush Administration secured less nuclear material from sites around the world vulnerable to terrorists in the two years after 9/11 than were secured in the two years before 9/11.

Source: nti.org

15. The Bush Administration underfunded Nunn-Lugar--the program intended to keep the former Soviet Union's nuclear legacy out of the hands of terrorists and rogue states--by $45.5 million.

Source: armscontrol.org

16. The Bush Administration has assigned five times as many agents to investigate Cuban embargo violations as it has to track Osama bin Laden's and Saddam Hussein's money.

Source: Associated Press

17. According to Congressional Research Service data, the Bush Administration has underfunded security at the nation's ports by more than $1 billion for fiscal year 2005.

Source: American Progress

18. The Bush Administration did not devote the resources necessary to prevent a resurgence in the production of poppies, the raw material used to create heroin, in Afghanistan--creating a potent new source of financing for terrorists.

Source: Pakistan Tribune

19. Vice President Cheney told voters that unless they elect George Bush in November, "we'll get hit again" by terrorists.

Source: Washington Post

20. Even though an Al Qaeda training manual suggests terrorists come to the United States and buy assault weapons, the Bush Administration did nothing to prevent the expiration of the ban.

Source: sfgate.com

21. Despite repeated calls for reinforcements, there are fewer experienced CIA agents assigned to the unit dealing with Osama bin Laden now than there were before 9/11.

Source: New York Times

22. Before 9/11, John Ashcroft proposed slashing counterterrorism funding by 23 percent.

Source: americanprogress.org

23. Between January 20, 2001, and September 10, 2001, the Bush Administration publicly mentioned Al Qaeda one time.

Source: commondreams.org

24. The Bush Administration granted the 9/11 Commission $3 million to investigate the September 11 attacks and $50 million to the commission that investigated the Columbia space shuttle crash.

Source: commondreams.org

25. More than three years after 9/11, just 5 percent of all cargo--including cargo transported on passenger planes--is screened.

Source: commondreams.org

NATIONAL SECURITY

26. During the Bush Administration, North Korea quadrupled its suspected nuclear arsenal from two to eight weapons.

Source: New York Times

27. The Bush Administration has openly opposed the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, undermining nuclear nonproliferation efforts.

Source: commondreams.org

28. The Bush Administration has spent $7 billion this year--and plans to spend $10 billion next year--for a missile defense system that has never worked in a test that wasn't rigged.

Sources: www.gao.gov/new.items/d04409.pdf, Los Angeles Times

29. The Bush Administration underfunded the needs of the nation's first responders by $98 billion, according to a Council on Foreign Relations study.

Source: nationaldefensemagazine.org

CRONYISM AND CORRUPTION

30. The Bush Administration awarded a multibillion-dollar no-bid contract to Halliburton--a company that still pays Vice President Cheney hundreds of thousands of dollars in deferred compensation each year (Cheney also has Halliburton stock options). The company then repeatedly overcharged the military for services, accepted kickbacks from subcontractors and served troops dirty food.

Sources: The Washington Post, The Tapei Times, BBC News

31. The Bush Administration told Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan about plans to go to war with Iraq before telling Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Source: detnews.com

32. The Bush Administration relentlessly pushed an energy bill containing $23.5 billion in corporate tax breaks, much of which would have benefited major campaign contributors.

taxpayer.net, Washington Post

33. The Bush Administration paid Iraqi-exile and neocon darling Ahmad Chalabi $400,000 a month for intelligence, including fabricated claims about Iraqi WMD. It continued to pay him for months after discovering that he was providing inaccurate information.

Source: MSNBC

34. The Bush Administration installed as top officials more than 100 former lobbyists, attorneys or spokespeople for the industries they oversee.

Source: Source: commondreams.org

35. The Bush Administration let disgraced Enron CEO Ken Lay--a close friend of President Bush--help write its energy policy.

Source: MSNBC

36. Top Bush Administration officials accepted $127,600 in jewelry and other presents from the Saudi royal family in 2003, including diamond-and-sapphire jewelry valued at $95,500 for First Lady Laura Bush.

Source: Seattle Times

37. Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge awarded lucrative contracts to several companies in which he is an investor, including Microsoft, GE, Sprint, Pfizer and Oracle.

Source: cq.com

38. President Bush used images of firefighters carrying flag-draped coffins through the rubble of the World Trade Center to score political points in a campaign advertisement.

Source: The Washington Post

THE ECONOMY

39. President Bush's top economic adviser, Greg Mankiw, said the outsourcing of American jobs abroad was "a plus for the economy in the long run."

Source: CBS News

40. The Bush Administration turned a $236 billion surplus into a $422 billion deficit.

Sources: Fortune, dfw.com

41. The Bush Administration implemented regulations that made millions of workers ineligible for overtime pay.

Source: epinet.org

42. The Bush Administration has crippled state budgets by underfunding federal mandates by $175 billion.

Source: cbpp.org

43. President Bush is the first President since Herbert Hoover to have a net loss of jobs--around 800,000--over a four-year term.

Source: The Guardian

44. The Bush Administration gave Accenture a multibillion-dollar border control contract even though the company moved its operations to Bermuda to avoid paying taxes.

Sources: The New York Times, cantonrep.com

45. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush said "the vast majority of my tax cuts go to the bottom end of the spectrum." He passed the tax cuts, but the top 20 percent of earners received 68 percent of the benefits.

Sources: cbpp.org, vote-smart.org

46. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush promised to pay down the national debt to a historically low level. As of September 30, the national debt stood at $7,379,052,696,330.32, a record high.

Sources: www.georgewbush.com , Bureau of the Public Debt

47. As major corporate scandals rocked the nation's economy, the Bush Administration reduced the enforcement of corporate tax law--conducting fewer audits, imposing fewer penalties, pursuing fewer prosecutions and making virtually no effort to prosecute corporate tax crimes.

Source: iht.com

48. The Bush Administration increased tax audits for the working poor.

Source: theolympian.com

49. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush promised to protect the Social Security surplus. As President, he spent all of it.

Sources: georgewbush.com, Congressional Budget Office

50. The Bush Administration proposed slashing funding for the largest federal public housing program, putting 2 million families in danger of losing their housing.

Source: San Francisco Examiner

51. The Bush Administration did nothing to prevent the minimum wage from falling to an inflation-adjusted fifty-year low.

Source: Los Angeles Times

EDUCATION

52. The Bush Administration underfunded the No Child Left Behind Act by $9.4 billion.

Source: nwitimes.com

53. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush promised to increase the maximum federal scholarship, or Pell Grant, by 50 percent. Instead, each year he has been in office he has frozen or cut the maximum scholarship amount.

Source: Source: edworkforce.house.gov x

54. The Bush Administration's Secretary of Education, Rod Paige, called the National Education Association--a union of teachers--a "terrorist organization."

Sources: CNN.com

HEALTHCARE

55. The Bush Administration, in violation of the law, refused to allow Medicare actuary Richard Foster to tell members of Congress the actual cost of their Medicare bill. Instead, they repeated a figure they knew was $100 billion too low.

Source: Washington Post, realcities.com

56. The nonpartisan GAO concluded the Bush Administration created illegal, covert propaganda--in the form of fake news reports--to promote its industry-backed Medicare bill.

Source: General Accounting Office

57. The Bush Administration stunted research that could lead to new treatments for Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, diabetes, spinal injuries, heart disease and muscular dystrophy by placing severe restrictions on the use of federal dollars for embryonic stem-cell research.


Source: CBS News

58. The Bush Administration reinstated the "global gag rule," which requires foreign NGOs to withhold information about legal abortion services or lose US funds for family planning.

Source: healthsciences.columbia.edu

59. The Bush Administration authorized twenty companies that have been charged with fraud at the federal or state level to offer Medicare prescription drug cards to seniors.

Source: American Progress

60. The Bush Administration created a prescription drug card for Medicare that locks seniors into one card for up to a year but allows the corporations offering the cards to change their prices once a week.

Source: Washington Post

61. The Bush Administration blocked efforts to allow Medicare to negotiate cheaper prescription drug prices for seniors.

Source: American Progress

62. At the behest of the french fry industry, the Bush Administration USDA changed their definition of fresh vegetables to include frozen french fries.


Source: commondreams.org

63. In a case before the Supreme Court, the Bush Administrations sided with HMOs--arguing that patients shouldn't be allowed to sue HMOs when they are improperly denied treatment. With the Administration's help, the HMOs won.

Source: ABC News

64. The Bush Administration went to court to block lawsuits by patients who were injured by defective prescription drugs and medical devices.

Source: Washington Post

65. President Bush signed a Medicare law that allows companies that reduce healthcare benefits for retirees to receive substantial subsidies from the government.

Source: Bloomberg News

66. Since President Bush took office, more than 5 million people have lost their health insurance.

Source: CNN.com

67. The Bush Administration blocked a proposal to ban the use of arsenic-treated lumber in playground equipment, even though it conceded it posed a danger to children.

Source: Miami Herald

68. One day after President Bush bragged about his efforts to help seniors afford healthcare, the Administration announced the largest dollar increase of Medicare premiums in history.

Source: iht.com

69. The Bush Administration--at the behest of the tobacco industry--tried to water down a global treaty that aimed to help curb smoking.

Source: tobaccofreekids.org

70. The Bush Administration has spent $270 million on abstinence-only education programs even though there is no scientific evidence demonstrating that they are effective in dissuading teenagers from having sex or reducing the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases.

Source: salon.com

71. The Bush Administration slashed funding for programs that suggested ways, other than abstinence, to avoid sexually transmitted diseases.

Source: LA Weekly

ENVIRONMENT

72. The Bush Administration gutted clean-air standards for aging power plants, resulting in at least 20,000 premature deaths each year.

Source: cta.policy.net

73. The Bush Administration eliminated protections on more than 200 million acres of public lands.

Source: calwild.org

74. President Bush broke his promise to place limits on carbon dioxide emissions, an essential step in combating global warming.

Source: Washington Post

75. Days after 9/11, the Bush Administration told people living near Ground Zero that the air was safe--even though they knew it wasn't--subjecting hundreds of people to unnecessary, debilitating ailments.

Sierra Club , EPA

76. The Bush Administration created a massive tax loophole for SUVs--allowing, for example, the write-off of the entire cost of a new Hummer.

Source: Washington Post

77. The Bush Administration put former coal-industry big shots in the government and let them roll back safety regulations, putting miners at greater risk of black lung disease.

Source: New York Times

78. The Bush Administration said that even though the weed killer atrazine was seeping into water supplies--creating, among other bizarre creatures, hermaphroditic frogs--there was no reason to regulate it.

Source: Washington Post

79. The Bush Administration has proposed cutting the budget of the Environmental Protection Agency by $600 million next year.

Source: ems.org

80. President Bush broke his campaign promise to end the maintenance backlog at national parks. He has provided just 7 percent of the funds needed, according to National Park Service estimates.

Source: bushgreenwatch.org

RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES

81. Since 9/11, Attorney General John Ashcroft has detained 5,000 foreign nationals in antiterrorism sweeps; none have been convicted of a terrorist crime.

Source: hrwatch.org

82. The Bush Administration ignored pleas from the International Committee of the Red Cross to stop the abuse of prisoners in US custody.

Source: Wall Street Journal

83. In violation of international law, the Bush Administration hid prisoners from the Red Cross so the organization couldn't monitor their treatment.

Source: hrwatch.org

84. The Bush Administration, without ever charging him with a crime, arrested US citizen José Padilla at an airport in Chicago, held him on a naval brig in South Carolina for two years, denied him access to a lawyer and prohibited any contact with his friends and family.

Source: news.findlaw.com

85. President Bush's top legal adviser wrote a memo to the President advising him that he can legally authorize torture.

Source: news.findlaw.com

86. At the direction of Bush Administration officials, the FBI went door to door questioning people planning on protesting at the 2004 political conventions.

Source: New York Times

87. The Bush Administration refuses to support the creation of an independent commission to investigate the abuse of foreign prisoners in American custody. Instead, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld selected the members of a commission to review the conduct of his own department.

Source: humanrightsfirst.org

FLIP FLOPS

88. President Bush opposed the creation of the 9/11 Commission before he supported it, delaying an essential inquiry into one of the greatest intelligence failure in American history.

Source: americanprogressaction.org

89. President Bush said gay marriage was a state issue before he supported a constitutional amendment banning it.

Sources: CNN.com, White House

90. President Bush said he was committed to capturing Osama bin Laden "dead or alive" before he said, "I truly am not that concerned about him."

Source: americanprogressaction.org

91. President Bush said we had found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, before he admitted we hadn't found them.

Sources: White House, americanprogress.org

92. President Bush said, "You can't distinguish between Al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror," before he admitted Saddam had no role in 9/11.

Sources: White House, Washington Post

BIOGRAPHY

93. George Bush didn't come close to meeting his commitments to the National Guard. Records show he performed no service in a six-month period in 1972 and a three-month period in 1973.

Source: boston.com

94. In June 1990 George Bush violated federal securities law when he failed to inform the SEC that he had sold 200,000 shares of his company, Harken Energy. Two months later the company reported significant losses and by the end of that year the stock had dropped from $3 to $1.

Source: The Guardian

95. When asked at an April 2004 press conference to name a mistake he made during his presidency, Bush couldn't think of one.

Source: White House

SECRECY

96. The Bush Administration refuses to release twenty-seven pages of a Congressional report that reportedly detail the Saudi Arabian government's connections to the 9/11 hijackers.

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer

97. Last year the Bush Administration spent $6.5 billion creating 14 million new classified documents and securing old secrets--the highest level of spending in ten years.

Source: openthegovernment.org

98. The Bush Administration spent $120 classifying documents for every $1 it spent declassifying documents.

Source: openthegovernment.org

99. The Bush Administration has spent millions of dollars and defied numerous court orders to conceal from the public who participated in Vice President Cheney's 2001 energy task force.

Source: Washington Post

100. The Bush Administration--reversing years of bipartisan tradition--refuses to answer requests from Democratic members of Congress about how the White House is spending taxpayer money.

Source: Washington Post

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> And Bush's Response?

> "Who's Your Daddy?"

 

Yes, but what's your point? Kerry for Prez? You have to be kidding. I'm glad I'm up here if that's the case.

 

I have no political affiliation anymore. Picking between Bush and Kerry is just picking the lesser of two evils. Neither are suitable candidates for the job, in my opinion, but it seems we have to take what we can get.

I just found this while surfing around, and thought it might be of some interest to folks here. If you wish to engage in debates, then so be it, but it should be known that my intentions while posting this were benign. Simply to inform.

And, yes, I too would be happy to be up there.

[edit: If someone could scrounge up 100 facts against Kerry's proposed administration, then I urge you to post them.]

 

Yes I suppose you are right. None of my business really. We have enough idiots up here.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

I feel the same way as Gott.

Both suck, royally, but the idea I guess is to choose the lesser of two evils.

I guess that would explain the 'independent' on my voter registration card.

Of course, I am leaning towards Bush.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say they royally suck. I mean, they have gotten as far as they have. It's hard to suck so bad at something, and then be in a position to run the most powerful nation in the world.

I just can't find myself agreeing with the candidates 100% on various issues, and I require that in order to fully support any person running for office. Sure, I don't have to agree with them on everything, and it rarely happens anyway...but if they can't convince me, then they aren't fit for the job.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

I don't see why anyone would want to vote for Bush.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Should we vote for a baby killer instead?

Someone who wants to use those babies in research?

Who is the bigger monster?

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

I'm not American and I don't want to get into a huge debate about it but I just think that Bush has no redeeming qualities. I think he is a bad Presedent and hope Kerry wins the election.

Kerry kills babies? Are you talking about Stem Cell research or something else?

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

He is Pro abortion. He is pro abortion and wants to use those fetuses in stem cell research.

Not directly a baby killer, but he condones it.

To me, thats morally wrong.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Oh, right. Abortion is a touchy subject.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

I'll leave it at this. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said:

Abort the parent, not the child

Sums up my feelings about it

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

So many distortions, so little time. By the time I went through all of them, the election would be over any way.

In general, concerning the current financial condition, Bush inherited a recession from Clinton. The dot-com collapse started on Clinton's watch, and Bush got the continuation of the downward curve. Followed by a direct attack on Wall Street that started a war. Those towers were more than just tourist attractions. Direct losses of revenue and taxes were immense, as were the effects on many industries, including mine; aviation. Again, not Bush's doing. And war is never cheap. Every war costs more than we currently have, and causes deficits. Again, not Bush's doing. Forget any plans made in 2000. Recession and war have changed things, just as they did in December of 1941. Pretending that all that was Bush's fault is obscene.

For every single bill that was criticized, make that read that Congress wrote and passed the bills, and the President signed them. He didn't do it all by himself.

First president since Hoover to lose jobs? Tell that to those that were around during the 30s, when unimployment went to 25%, not the roughly 5.5% we have today. Which, by the way, is the SAME figure we had during the booming 90s. Bah.

I can't give you 100 points against Kerry's proposed policies, since for the most part all he's done so far is to say that he would have done and will do things better than Bush. Some of what he DOES says contradicts itself, and many of his promises contradict what he's done for the last 20 years. He promises programs that will cost trillions more, and promises to reduce the deficit at the same time, only by repealing the modest tax cut. Not even remotely possible. Said tax cut returned a flat percentage to those that paid taxes. Those who PAID more, got more back. That "top 20%" is paying MOST of the taxes now. Class envy always sells. The peons love it. And by the way. NONE of what he promises is possible unless Congress writes and passes the bills to make it so. The president is NOT a king that can do things with a wave of the hand.

This is about as "fair and unbiased" as the thread we had a while back that cherry picked Republican politicians that didn't serve in the military, while ignoring the many MANY that did serve. Bah.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Because Kerry would be worse. I'd rather vote for the Constitution party, but since they haven't got the proverbial snowball in hell's chance ofwinning, I prefer not to throw my vote in the toilet. Bush isn't perfect by any means, but choosing the lesser of two evils is lessening the evil, which is better than nothing.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

I'm with the canadian here, Bush isn't a good president.

so yeah, I'm hoping Kerry will win, but I really doubt it.

 

If everyone who had that mentality actually ACTED on their wishes then perhaps Hades might experience a notable climate shift.

Far too many people say that sentence above for me to believe different.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Yeah...Why kill one, when we can kill two. That way, the baby isn't born into a doomed existence, and the parent isn't able to warp a fresh mind. Good thinking.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Any parent who would abort their child would be dooming its existence anyway, so I fail to see your point?

How can they give love and the things it needs to something they are so willing to murder?

Better a foster home than someone with the mentality for murder.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

(In case you didn't catch it, the bumper sticker was toying at the humor of letting the baby be born, then aborting the mother, or father if it was their decision. But a full explanation wouldn't quite fit on a bumper sticker, now would it )

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Really, how?

What? Bush is the lesser of two evils?

I just don't understand the way American's think.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

what about all the babies bush killed in iraq?

what about the babies who don't have a chance because their mothers are poor and cant afford adequate child care and since bushs cuts in social services, they will grow up to sell their bodies for crack?

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Thanks for the history lesson, GT. How soon people forget the truth. When shown a lie often enough (such as our media does), it soon becomes truth. And nobody is ever held responsible. Case in point, Dan Rather.

Abby, if Bush does win, the Dems will try to steal the election as they did 4 years ago. So, it won't be over for a while.

Some say Bush stole the election. How can you steal that which was yours. I recall that Gore called Bush to concede and then recanted. Yes, he probably would have won if they were allowed to continue counting. They would have presumed that all incomplete ballots were cast for Gore, because stupid people always vote Dem by their way of thinking . I also recall that those who were crying about voter disenfranchisement wouldn't count many of the military absentee ballots.

As far as the 100 facts:
Facts can always be distorted. Bias can actually be used to make a fact appear to mean something entirely different, or transfer the focus so to speak.

Examples:
"1. The Bush Administration has spent more than $140 billion on a war of choice in Iraq.

Source: American Progress "

Talk about bias. "war of choice" that's not journalism, that is bias pure and simple.

I could go through all of them and point out the bias in each one, but that would take a while.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

dems stealing election? you got the wrong way ... see in the florida election they used this law that bars felons the right to vote ... but that wasn't good enough for the corrupt people in the bush team so they simply "randomly" barred blacks their right to vote ... thousands of registered blacks who are upstanding citizens were turned away from the voting place in 2000 ... this really actually happened it is no "conspiracy"

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Who is really to blame for that? It started with the erosion of family values, sexual promiscuity, basically a decline in moral values.
Do you know how much of our money is spent on health care for felons in prison? We foot the bill for their sex changes, braces, etc. They get better coverage than many US citizens. Oh, what about the illegal aliens?
We need to fix that problem first.
It is a much larger problem than trying to blame on one person.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Please do. I got time.

That seems to be the basis for the war in Iraq under the Bush administration. The Bush administraion lies constantly and I'm shocked that so many Americans believe the lies and when they find out that they are lies they don't seem to mind. They still support Bush. ???? I don't get it. ????

Yeah. Bush chose to go too war against the wrong country. It's not like America had to. America should have gone to Afganastan to wage war like in Iraq.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

And they were going to vote for whom?

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

If the press had been biased the other way, you would have a different opinion.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

I've got a yearly income (Yes, combined between Eric and I) of less than $8,000. Now, I know that I live in a unique situation (quickest sum -up: I live communally with several members of my church), but I depend on Public Aid for my kids and my medical treatment, and I also use WIC for supplimental Milk, Eggs, Cereal and cheese. I live in Chicago in Uptown which is the poor area of the North side of the city. I'm giving all these details, because if the cuts in social services were really that bad, I would be feeling them personally, and I'm not. I am feeling the effects of a recession. We're actually making half of what we were making before 9/11, but I agree with GT. There wasn't much Bush could do about that. I just enrolled my daughter into a head start program at a local elementary school with no problem at all, and I had a choice between 3 or 4 head start programs that are within easy walking distance from my house. There are several park districts either within walking distance or a quick bus ride away where I can (and do) take my child for extra activities (tumbling, dance, art, etc.). There is a lot out there. Personally, I think the government does far more than it should. IMO, social service should be the job of the church, and many do their part, but many more sadly fall very short.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

My opinion is that's it all childish behaviour. Do we really want people who feel that bashing each other is ok?

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

blacks vote democratic ... dont mean to sound stereotypical but the vast majority of them do

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

If abortion goes all out, like Kerry wants, the number here will become far greater.


What then Hmmm?

How about how many people Saddam killed? Because you didn't hear about it on a biased news channel, that makes it ok?

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

No. Not at all. I don't live in America so I'm not force-fed media BS everyday and expected to believe everything I see, hear, and read when it's presented to me by the media.

I keep an open mind and go by the truth.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Dont be confused to think that because you don't live here, your media isn't biased.

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Do you have any facts to back up that statement?

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

I'm not confused. I'm stating that I can keep more of an open mind because I live outside of the USA. I know all media is biased but in America its gotten to a point where it's rediculous!

 

Re: 100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political thre

Time for the lame lawyer joke of the day.

Q: Why are lawyers buried 20 feet underground when they die?

A: Because deep down, they are good guys.

 

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Its no different than the rest of the world.

No different at all.


The media is a profitting business. They are there to make money. As such they only report what sells and makes the most money.

There are stories about happy Iraqi citizens because they were liberated.

But you know what? The news media doesn't focus on that, because good news doesn't sell!

 

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Sure it is. I live in Canada and get American, Canadian, and some British channels on TV. The way the news is covered on both Canadian and British TV is far different than on American TV channels.

The Canadian media is more open and honest than the American media.

 

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I remember during Desert Storm, I was in High School and there was a group of student reporters who went there to report what they saw.

What they ran into was something of complete surprise. The citizens were apologizing to them and telling them to report to the US that the Iraqi people really are not like this, that they are good people (The way Saddam was being).

We are not targetting citizens, we are targetting military and insurgent forces.

 

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You can't see what I am saying, because you are biased towards Canadian media.

So much for being unbiased

 

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I know. I've heard of how many millions of Iraq's people are happy to be liberated, but my original point is that Bush lied to the American people and led them to Iraq instead of Afganastan where he should have gone to get the Terrorists.

The media in America never really seemed to point that out and just went along with it. Since the media went along with it so did the American people without really thinking about the whole situation.

 

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Please, drugs and gangs and crack were around in huge numbers during the Clinton administration, and before the Clinton administration. so that is a weak argument.

And Hussein seems to have Bush beat when it comes to baby killing. Don't forget, too, that there are Iraqis killing other Iraqis in this war. It isn't only American troops running around mowing everybody down. Iraq is not a settled nation yet, and there are plenty of Hussein's people fighting against the US and against their own people. They are merely following the leadership set down by Hussein.

 

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I wondered at the beginning why we were going to Iraq, but don't forget, we did go to Afghanistan, and we are still in Afghanistan, and the media is actually the one who keeps the focus on Iraq. I know that if the media wants a story, they will get a story, and if they went to Afghanistan to get a story, there would be plenty to report. But, they'd rather paint a picture of Iraq,and forget about Afghanistan, which leads the people to believe that the US has forgotten about Afghanistan. But don't forget the friendly reminder we just got in the mail from Mr. Bin Laden. Seems he doesn't care who wins, he'll just attack us again anyway.

 

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I'm not biased towards Canadian media. I watch Brit TV too.

 

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Bingo. Perfect example of the media biasing everything.

Lets also not forget that Saddam is currently on trial. Conducted by his own citizens.

 

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You may watch it, but everything you say in this thread is Canada, Canada, Canada.

So, the point is pretty moot, because the bias shines through

 

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Hey, just trying to give an opinion from someone outside looking in.

Yeah. That's what I've been saying. American media BS.

 

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Well lets see, you lost focus on Afghanistan too, so it sounds like Canadian media isn't reporting it much either.

Whoa!

Bias!

There is a shocker. Biased, Canadian media.


What a shock. I never said American media isn't biased. Its just as biased as the rest, which was MY original point.