100 Non-Arguable Facts Against the Bush Administration. OR Yay for political threads.

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I've had an epiphany.

The only time the media is correct and unbiased, is if:

1. Its not in the USA
2. It bashes Bush and the war.

Did I cover that pretty good for you ?

Sounds like it.

 

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Bush waited 2 whole months before sending troops to Afganastan. Enough time for Bin Ladin to get away. Only 20,000 troops went there when over 100,000 went to Iraq (the wrong country). That was reported in Canada.

I was saying that the American media feeds the public with so much BS that the American people will believe whatever is said.

 

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Kind of like when the Canadian media does the same to its citizens?

--I agree.

 

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No. I'm talking about the political aspect of the media in this thread. This is a thread about politics, right?

 

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(shrug) The third parties are all far too small to have any shot at it yet. They lack the manpower, they don't have any base at the grass-roots level, they have almost no representation in Congress... someday maybe, but not today. And it's much easier to be elected to Congress than to the White House. And they all squabble among themselves. If most of them could consolidate into one unified party they'd have a better chance, but currently they just pick at each other, while the 2 large parties laugh at them.

 

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Political or not, you are biased because of the media you see. Don't try to tell me you aren't.


At any rate, I'm gonna go wash my car. Its far more productive

 

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Yeah. This thread is going knowhere for us. We could agrue on for hours and not get anywhere.

 

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It's hard to separate the two. Most of what most of us believe about politics is shaped by the big media's opinions. And those are NOT objective and unbiased.

 

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LOL. Only for one more day. After thay we can all argue why the election went the way it did, who cheated where, hanging chads, disenfranchised voters, electoral college votes versus popular vote, and if we're REAL lucky, there will be a tie in the electoral vote, and Congress will have to pick the president and vice president, and we can all grumble that our votes didn't count anyway. Won't THAT be fun?

 

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So, why even have an election when we know how everyone is going to vote.

 

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That's why Gore lost. He couldn't even win his home state. If he won Tennessee, he would have won the election.

 

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"The latest Gallup poll shows Democratic candidates for Congress claiming an overwhelming 96 percent of the black vote in November. Black women are the most lopsidedly Democratic of all demographic segments."
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021016-094913-4016r

"Gore received 90% of the Black vote"
http://www.mindspring.com/~teleri/julian/books/majority.html

http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/341/context/archive

 

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Hmmm...

Those are several years old.

How can youa ssume that it will remain the same?

 

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well ... with the bias so large i doubt that it's changed too much, especially with the trent lott scandal a year or two ago ... here's a little more rescent article:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6065770/

 

All media is biased, and that's my $0.02

 

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I haven't read the thread yet, I am in hurry

heres what I think. . .

Bush is a pompus ass. . .but makes good points
Kerry is just a total idiot . . .has no I dea what he his talking about or what he wants, his opinions change all to oft. . .

at least Bush is sure of himself

but I will vote for neither
who else is in the running?lol

the question is what is best for this country?
not one man is
vote congress,

 

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hahahaha Yeah, right. You must mean the people that control Bush.

Here is a link to a video that shows how unintellegent Bush is. When knowone is around to tell him what to say he really makes an ass of himself.
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=sovereignty.mov

Here is another one to show how immature Bush is behind the scences. Granted this footage is a bit old and it's not from his presidency, but he is a grown man acting like a child in this clip.
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=bushuncensored.wmv

Vote for kerry.

 

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Sence of humour or immature behaviour?

Why don't you like QuickTime, AbbySue?

 

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Guess the DNC sent you a good lie sheet. I don't think you did this research yourself.

 

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Yeah. QuickTime and Real Player are kind of annoying. I only have QuickTime so I can view movie trailers online cause' I hardly watch TV but still want to see what movies are coming out.

I don't even think I use Real Player. ???? Maybe I'll get rid of it.

And now... back to American Politics.

 

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That last clip with the finger was awesome

Doesn't change my view one bit, other than to make Bush look a little more human.

 

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And what about the first video where Bush couldn't answer the question about sovereignty?

The crowd laughed at him because he tried to BS his way through his answer like a moron.

Nothing to say about that?

 

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How about an alternative?

 

One thing i have to say is this........i have no idea why in a website such as this, with people who are pro-technology would we be voting for a Republican? Republicans are Nazi's trying to take over the FCC, sending innocent troops to Iraq (for NO REAL FU*KING PURPOSE!!), not protecting our homeland nuclear bases, not very environmentally friendly, put fear into people's minds about this world (and ignorance eats it right up), and do not want to further on stem cell research. Stem cell research is GOOD. As a matter of fact, today my Biology teacher informed us that stem cell research is really not that big of a deal. If a mother has a baby who lives to be 20 something years old (or more), why would she want to keep her other eggs incubated? For no reason.....they will get dumped out anyways. Let's use them for something progressive. Let's study it.

P.S. - Anything is better than Bush.

 

And if you are going to vote just on the abortion issue.......then you are a flat out ignorant idiot.

 

Nice...I suppose next you'll say that anyone who supports Bush is a big doo-doo head.

 

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Your subjective observations are not in the best interest of the board. Do not insult (an)other member(s) again. The next offense will result in suspension of posting priv's.

Political threads are bound to get closed. It's only a matter of time. Don't be that guy!

 

See that's what i am talking about.....where is the freedom of speech and expression in this country? Just because i pose my opinion (and an ignorant idiot is not that huge of an insult MOTHER****ER is).

 

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Sounds to me like you're not old enough to vote yet. Hopefully in a few years when you are able to vote, you have a more level head. Hopefully you will research the facts yourself, and learn to debate without attacking others.

In the meantime, give this a read. (I posted the article below so you don't have to subscribe) Respect of life was one of many issues that I took into consideration when choosing who I was voting for. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/editorial/9970503.htm


Posted on Thu, Oct. 21, 2004
Click here to find out more!

Differentiating stem-cell research fact from fiction

JEAN SWENSON

Christopher Reeve and I had several things in common — we were both born in 1952, we both shattered our spinal cords and our lives through unforeseen accidents, and we've both wanted desperately to be free from our wheelchairs and the many medical problems associated with spinal cord injury.

I was saddened to hear of Reeve's death, as I've appreciated the awareness he's brought to curing spinal cord injuries. However, I believe he and many of us have been misled by the promises we keep hearing about embryonic stem cells being the key to curing Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, diabetes and a host of other maladies. After supporting spinal cord research for years and exploring the possibilities, I believe adult stem cells, not embryonic, are far more likely to produce successful treatments.

Although we hear plenty of general testimonies that play on our emotions, there appears to be almost a blackout of accurate scientific information about stem cells.

Stem cells are cells that can proliferate (duplicate many times) and differentiate (change into specialized cell types needed by the body). For example, stem cells in your blood continuously produce new blood cells to replace worn-out ones.

Stem cells found in both adults and embryos are currently being studied by researchers to replace cells lost through disease or injury. However, research is showing that adult stem cells are actually medically superior to embryonic stem cells.

First, a patient's body will reject embryonic stem cells as foreign. Adult stem cells obtained from the patient's own body are perfectly matched genetically and do not cause tissue rejection. Also, embryonic stem cells are prone to abnormal genetic "expression," and scientists acknowledge a lack of suitable tests to detect such abnormalities.

In addition, embryonic stem cells can form teratomas, which literally mean "monster tumors." These tumors often contain different cell types, such as teeth, hair or bone tissue. Adult stem cells, which are easier to control, do not form these tumors.

Proponents of embryonic stem cells allege that only embryonic stem cells can form all body tissue types, but researchers are continually showing that adult stem cells can also form specialized cells of other tissues.

For example, a University of Minnesota research team has discovered adult stem cells in human bone marrow that can be made to differentiate into many different cell types and that do not form teratomas.

Stem cells found in blood drained from human umbilical cords after birth can become many types of cells needed to treat disability and disease, such as heart cells, beta islets and neurons.

Embryonic stem cell researchers admit they are years away from effective procedures safe enough for human use, while the medical world is continually exploding with new treatments using adult stem cells.

For example, American spinal cord injured patients have gained some return of function after traveling to Portugal to have tissues rich in stem cells from their own nasal cavities transplanted into their spinal cords. The Spinal Cord Society, to which I belong, will be undertaking human trials in January, using this technique in combination with other treatments.

Stem cells isolated from the blood of a teen, whose heart was pierced with a 3-inch nail, were injected into the coronary artery that supplies blood to the heart. A few days later, his heart's functioning began improving, indicating possible rebuilding of heart muscle. Today, he's again playing high school soccer.

A California man with Parkinson's disease was treated by removing tissue from his own brain, culturing stem cells from this tissue and then injecting them back into his brain. A year later, the man's symptoms were reduced by more than 80 percent. He has remained in clinical remission for four years.

One astute participant in the second presidential debate asked the candidates:

"Thousands of people have already been cured or treated by the use of adult stem cells or umbilical-cord stem cells. However, no one has been cured by using embryonic stem cells. Wouldn't it be wise to use stem cells obtained without the destruction of an embryo?"

We who have a vested interest in cure would like to ask our politicians and researchers the same question.
Swenson, of St. Paul, has been a quadriplegic since a 1980 car accident and has been actively supporting spinal cord injury cure research. E-mail her at jswenson@usfamily.net.

 

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Yet again....out of all the things that i posted, all you see is the stem cell/abortion issue. And don't be telling me about facts, because yours are as good as mine. There is no truth in this media, and maybe one day you will be old enough to understand that.

 

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Sounds to me like someone likes to test authority. Bad timing http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=46257

 

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lol....pathetic

 

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suspended... for how long, I have no idea ..

 

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Actually, a close friend of mine (my husband and I were his guardians several years ago) is in the Army's 82nd Airborne. Should be coming back from Afghanistan this week in fact. This was his second time over there as well as serving in Fallujah for several months. I've discussed my political views with him, asking his advice as someone who is directly involved. His opinion was also instrumental in why I'm voting the way I am. I only addressed the stem cell issue because it was the bulk of your first post and also the only topic of your second post as well.

 

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if I remeber correctly, Kerry wants to charge $.10 per e-mail
but Im not gonna vote, I will wait for a Jew in a hat
yes I voted for the last one

and yes, I should have said
"Bush is more stuck on himself, for sure"

 

Election campaigning time is over folks. Go and vote if you qualify, and haven't yet, or go and get drunk, or go play video games, or go get a life, but the time for this nonsense is over. Give it a rest for the next few years.

 

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And the people saith.... "AMEN!!!"

 

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+1

 

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But I miss him so much already! Please let him come back!

 

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Forget it. Ross Perot is gone forever.

 

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*sigh* Why did ezorption have to ruin this thread. Why couldn't he be more mature like the rest of us. Adrynalyne and I debated/argued for a long time and kept it civil and I enjoyed it. Now it's ruined.

Thanks.

 

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Yeah but it ended in a loser being removed from MG.

So it was not a total loss

 

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Yeah, that's true.

Well, Adrynalyne, it looks like your man Bush is going to win the Presidency.

All I have to say is booooooooo...

 

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OK this is probably wrong but, that fact that they spell thier name ezorption should have been the first clue.

Oh yea....Go Bush. hehe

 

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Yay Bush.

 

ReCount!

Hangin Chads!

Fixed Election!

Hacked Electronic Voting Booth's!

Oh! Bush! Poo! another 4 more years!

When he was elected 4 years ago I had a dollar, now it's worth 50 cents!

Nay for political threads too depressing, it like being in Florida during Hurrican season!

Maybe I'm asleep and this is all a bad dream!!!