A way to make text size stay in MSIE?

Discussion in 'Software' started by Wisewiz, Aug 26, 2003.

  1. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    Now that I've got (for me) a huge LCD monitor, I find that the Firebird and Netscape browsers display standard text at about the right size for me, but MSIE displays the same text as WAY TOO BIG.

    I get it to look about right for me when I choose View > Text Size > Smallest, but that setting won't even hold for the standard text on the next page that's displayed after my home page, much less for the next browser session.

    Is there a reg key I can use to LOCK the normal display text size at Smallest in IE? Any other way to do it?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    Board shut down message from Kodo !

    robo,

    Last night, when I tried your link several times and got a "The board will be shut down for a while" mesaage from Kodo, I thought the board was being shut down for a while, of course.

    This morning, the board is operating beautifully (thanks, team!), but your link still gets me the "shut down" message.

    Encore?
     
  3. Kodo

    Kodo SNATCHSQUATCH

    Re: Board shut down message from Kodo !

    From me? wasn't me.. must have been CP playing trix again :eek:
     
  4. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    Re: Re: Board shut down message from Kodo !

    Did you try robo's link???
     
  5. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    No probs with that link except my usual prob that MSKB pages hate Firebird, my browser-of-choice, so I have to right-click your link, copy link location, launch MSIE, paste, and go. Takes about three seconds more than the single-click required if you use an IE=-based browser or IE itself (No!).

    BUT the page starts out with
    "To resolve this issue if you are using Internet Mail Only mode in Outlook:
    In Outlook 2000, click Options on the Tools menu, and then click the Mail Format tab."

    Which leaves me SOL for that cure, cuz I got no Outlook, have never even fired up Outlook *Express* on my XP machine, and have no access to any such Internet Mail Only mode.

    But I do appreciate the try.
     
  6. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    Damn fine shot in the dark, guy, but I've tried that, too, and it doesn't hold. Seems to help sometimes for a session or two and then the default comes back. The Text Size Smallest control works across the board and does exactly what I need it to, but it won't stay set.

    Mebbe this is just another annoyance I have to put up with. No big deal; just an annoyance having to re-set the Text Size setting every three or four pages or sessions.

    If I need somebody to shoot my enemies in the dark, though, you'll be the first I call. Hardly anybody even knows that setting is THERE.
     
  7. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    Deal.
     
  8. bid95945

    bid95945 Private E-2

    WinME

    I tried it with WinME it doesn't stay either


















    xp Gates
     
  9. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    Thanks for that news, bid, but I'm not surprised. The problem isn't in XP or Me; it's in the coding of MSIE.

    Real browsers let us adjust things and keep them that way. Even as far back as Netscape 3, we could open the Fonts control and set the size of standard text displays, and that setting would stay until we changed it again.

    Back then, when I installed a new version of the browser, if I opened the first page of text in that version and found the display too big or small for me, I opened the Preferences panels and re-set the font size display to my liking. Once I'd done that, it stayed set until I changed it or changed browser installations, whichever came first.

    MS has gotten away with its lousy browser for so long simply because it's included in the OS, and for the vast, vast majority of computer users, what's on the machine when it's first booted is what's there forever, and that includes IE and OE, no matter how inadequate they are.

    Firebird is my main browser now, and it's extremely configurable, but I still have to use IE almost every day, because MS has coded important MS pages in non-standard ways. That forces a lot of people who use MS OSes to also use IE (or a browser that uses its coding) when they want to tap into the maintenance and repair system for their OSes.

    Sorry. I tend to lecture on the topic of IE. I hate it a lot.

    -- The Professor
     
  10. bid95945

    bid95945 Private E-2

    I FOUND WHAT YOU NEEDED

    IN P C World
    www.pcworld.com

    August 2003 issue Page 114 bottom right and on Page 115.
    Titled:
    Freeze Your Explorer View:

    Alas you were right! about it's not a persons OS it's the IE:D
    It's in the Registry Editor!
    Hope it helps you out;)









    xp Gates
     
  11. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    Thanks, bid, ... great try!

    I happen to have the Aug 2003 issue, so I flipped to 114 and had a good look at what it said.

    That registry key is for taskbar and Windows Explorer settings. It doesn't have any effect on Internet Explorer. Too bad.

    I really appreciate your hunting that down for me (and for anybody else who's interested -- lotsa people watching this thread).

    The value bid found in the article is in
    HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Policies\Explorer. It's called NoSaveSettings, and its DWORD value is supposed to be 1, according to the PCWorld article, if you don't want Explorer and taskbar display changes that you make DURING THE CURRENT SESSION to be PRESERVED for future sessions.

    The idea is that if you get everything set up "the way you want it" and then use this key to lock out new changes, "the way you want it" will return every time you reboot, no matter what you changed during the previous session.

    The problem with that is that most of us don't have any permanent idea what "the way you want it" is, and we're always changing this and that and looking at Explorer windows in different sizes for different purposes and adding to or subtracting from taskbar layouts, and so on.

    The default setting for NoSaveSettings is 0, and I think most of us want it that way, so that when we set changes, the system saves those changes. If we're lucky. Most of the time it's not a sure thing at all in XP.
     
  12. bid95945

    bid95945 Private E-2

    Your worse that i am

    Without re-reading your post , i was looking for some tweeks,
    stumbled across the registry key idea, thought it fit what you wanted.


    xp Gates
     
  13. bid95945

    bid95945 Private E-2

    You forced my hand

    Hay Wisewiz you forced my hand, now i am going to give out a great site.

    http://www.aumha.org/support.php

    Perhaps one of the best linked all around windows tek sites.

    If that doesn't do it , i have 1 more
    site that has white papers on stuff MS- Windows hasen't figured out yet, but i don't dream in code , nor do i write progg's so it's kinda beyond me.


    xp Gates
     
  14. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    bid, it was a nice try (actually several nice tries), but I think we'd better just abandon this one and chalk it up as another Microsoft annoyance.

    Everywhere I've tried, I wind up back at the Knowledge (?!) Base, and every time I get it narrowed down to finding something relevant to my complaint that IE won't let me set and KEEP the Smallest setting in View>Text Size, I get back to this VERY HELPFUL solution:

    "To resolve this behavior, on the View menu, click Text Size, and then click a size from the menu."

    Gee, thanks, MIcrosoft. Now I know how to do it. Great hint there!

    Let's drop this one. Thanks all.
     
  15. bid95945

    bid95945 Private E-2

    one last try,free progg

    It's a free progg called:


    Resource Hacker at

    http://WWW.users.on.net/johnson/resourcehacker/

    You can extract everything from anything to make any progg
    look like, or do anything you want.
    Backup everything you love, and have a go with this one.










    xp Gates
     
  16. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    You, bid, are a gentleman and a scholar!

    Thank you for trying again. The program is very interesting, but I have finally grown to accept the intractability of IE.

    In fact, when IE is set to the Smallest Text Size, most Web pages, including all of the MS updates and maintenance pages that I use IE for, display with standard text that's too small. The main offender was and is my own home page, which has text on it that displays as too big.

    I found a workaround: I reduced the display sizes of the text passages on my own home page, and let default text sizes take over. That makes it so that the text is not too small in Firebird, and not too large in IE.

    My personal home page

    I'm gonna live with IE, not hack it! But I'm gonna live with it as little as possible. Firebird is my browser of choice for the foreseeable future.

    Thanks again!
     

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