Anyone here good with math?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Wookie, Sep 2, 2004.

  1. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    I just got that homework .doc file. It opens just fine in AbiWord
    (hehe... who needs the overhead of OpenOffice -- just kidding)
    Slackware 10 doesn't have OpenOffice, it has AbiWord, though)

    I will start at the beginning.

    The notes would be cool, too, if it doesn't put you out.
     
  2. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    number one:
    notice how when you move a factor from the numerator to the denominator, or vice-versa, the sign on the exponent changes...
     

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  3. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    This is how the second and third ones are rendered on my screen.

    Obviously, I am missing something.

    I will *** ASSUME *** that if no powers are given, as in the top one in this jpg, then the square root of the whole business is to be taken.

    I will also assume, that if there is a small number in FRONT of the entire quantity, as in the bottom expression in the jpg in this post, that that quantity is to be taken to that root.

    In any event, this seems to be ***very strange*** notation to me.
    It must be that this .doc file is not displayed well except in some Microsoft program, or....

    notation has changed since I practiced math....


    .... or.... the teacher is very.....
    ......innovative :)
     
  4. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    I had trouble posting that jpg image...
     

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  5. Wookie

    Wookie Sergeant Major

  6. Wookie

    Wookie Sergeant Major

    OK look at the third one, using everything I learned talking to you here

    3sqrt(1880X^5Y^8)


    Distribute the sqrt

    3{(1080^1/2)(X^5+1/2)(Y^8+1/2)}

    soo work that out and I get

    3{(540)(X^3)(Y^4)}

    Multiply the 3 I get


    1620(3X^3)(3Y^4)

    That right?
     
  7. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    First, look at the number 1080. You can factor that number into factors, two of which are cubes. These cubes can be taken out of the cube root brackets....

    Here is the factorization:
     

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  8. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    In this way, you take the "six cubed" out from under the cubed root sign (or the 1/3 power sign... same thing).

    Then, you distribute the 1/3 power among all the other factors:
     

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  9. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    We add 5/3 to 2. In order to do that, we must get a common denominator between 5/3 and 2. That common denominator is 3

    Here is another look at just the exponent there...
     

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  10. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    Jeepers!
    Wookie, please read posts 53 and 54 in this thread, above...
    I think I am NOT getting a good idea of these problems. This file is not being rendered correctly on my box, I guess.

    I see NOTHING about a square root in that problem.
    What software are you using to look at the HW1.doc file?
     
  11. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    I had thought that we had agreed to treat the third one as if everthing that was in braces was taken to the third root:
     

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  12. Wookie

    Wookie Sergeant Major

    good news, I rememberd I could never sell my math book from my first semester and that has all the basic stuff in it :) youll probably be hearing from me when I get to derivatives because the book we have doesnt explain crap its mostly just problems and like 200 pages if even.

    Thanks for your help.
     
  13. Wookie

    Wookie Sergeant Major

    Ok I think I got most of my basics down. I cant figure out where to begin with the derivitives. I cant make anything out to relate to the first problem rom my notes, since all we do in class is copy whats on the board.

    Find the derivitive of f(x) where f = 19

    I think im supposed to pu tthat into the

    f(x+(triangle)(x)-d(x) / (triangle)X
    (you can see the problem on the worksheet.)

    If you can help get me goin in that id appreciate it. THanks
     
  14. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    The short answer to this is:
    the derivative of f(x) where f=19
    is 0.

    If the function has no dependence on x, the function is a constant.
    This means it doesn't change. You can put any value of x in, it doesn't matter, the function will ALWAYS have the value of 19.

    So, the function doesn't change. So, the rate of change
    (that is what the derivative is) is zero.
     
  15. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    Wookie:
    Notice that on the handout is has this:

    constant rule d(a) = 0

    Well, that applies in this case. here, a=19
     
  16. Fuzz

    Fuzz Private First Class

    WOW, this stuff makes my brain hurt. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    No kidding!
    Wait until he starts doing ODE's!
    :rolleyes:
    We will REALLY suffer then! :D
     
  18. CaNoFzOo

    CaNoFzOo Sergeant Major

    Yuck...I hate math.

    ESPECIALLY algebra.

    Algebra is icky.

    :rolleyes:
     
  19. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Its one of the most useful subjects you can learn.
     
  20. Wookie

    Wookie Sergeant Major


    damnit I knew it was something I was overlooking. Thanks
     
  21. Wookie

    Wookie Sergeant Major

    OK theres no X so thats means its a constant cause theres no way for it to change, simple enough.

    now if I look at 7x-4 I dont see a rule that looks anything like the syntax. but going off my notes im gonna come up with this.

    7x follows the rule of d(x^n)

    sooooo

    7(1x^1-1) -0 the -0 because its a constant using the d(a) = 0

    which would mean f^1 = 7x


    am I completely wrong? I hope im right it will help my morale towards this :)
     
  22. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    f(x) = 7x - 4
    You are using the right rule, there, but...
    d/dx {f(x)} = d/dx{7x - 4}

    = d/dx{7x} - d/dx{4}

    = 7 - 0

    d/dx {f(x)} = 7
     

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  23. Wookie

    Wookie Sergeant Major

    can you explain exactly what the g and f and a are?

    like in a f)^1 = af^1



    thanks
     
  24. Wookie

    Wookie Sergeant Major

    scratch that last one I figured out G is given in certain problems
     
  25. Wookie

    Wookie Sergeant Major

    I think I got this

    ok f = 9x + 11

    11 = 0

    f = 9x

    ?
     
  26. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    f(x) = 9x + 11
    Take the derivative of both sides of the equation:

    d/dx {f(x)} = d/dx {9x + 11}

    for a sum, the derivative, "operator" if you will, will distribute:

    d/dx {f(x)} = d/dx {9x} + d/dx {11}

    the left hand side of the equation is the derivative of f(x) with respect to x. No bones about it.

    The right hand side...

    d/dx {9x} = 9
    this is from:

    simple power rule d (xn) = n xn-1 dx

    the last term on the right hand side:

    d/dx {11} = 0
    because the derivative of a constant is zero.
    this comes from this rule:

    constant rule d(a) = 0
     
  27. Robster12

    Robster12 The Horse Whisperer

    f(x) = 9x + 11
    Take the derivative of both sides of the equation:

    d/dx {f(x)} = d/dx {9x + 11}

    for a sum, the derivative, "operator" if you will, will distribute:

    d/dx {f(x)} = d/dx {9x} + d/dx {11}

    the left hand side of the equation is the derivative of f(x) with respect to x. No bones about it.

    The right hand side...

    d/dx {9x} = 9
    this is from:

    simple power rule d (xn) = n xn-1 dx

    the last term on the right hand side:

    d/dx {11} = 0
    because the derivative of a constant is zero.
    this comes from this rule:

    constant rule d(a) = 0

    so, in the end, you have this;

    d/dx {f(x)} = 9
     

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