background checks

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  1. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    I am dating someone in the USA and I'd like to run a background check on her
    with her knowing,
    I am just wanting a credit report and criminal background check.
    I read this old thread
    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=234915

    but it doesnt really offer me what a solution on what to use to get what I want
     
  2. Goldenskull

    Goldenskull I can't follow the rules

    Finding out some body's credit report is a invasion of privacy.You should be care full on what you check up on.
     
  3. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    This message is hidden because Goldenskull is on your ignore list.

    Im not reading that response, likely it's no good
    I want a background check that does what it says it does so IM not throwing money away, asking people for their experiences to prevent throwing money away
    anyone have any experience?
    if I had said,
    Im hiring a person to work on my solar farm, what company should I use to do a background check?
    would that have been more likely to get some responses?:wave
     
  4. gman863

    gman863 MajorGeek

    One perfectly legal way of doing it yourself is to search the person's name (example "Judy R Johnson") and state(s) of current and recent residence (example "Texas Kansas") on the Internet.

    If the person has pending charges or a court judgment, this may (but not always) pull up public records. One warning, though: Be sure the results tie to the specific person. In my example, there may be multiple people named "Judy R Johnson," so the results may not apply to the specific individual you are dealing with.
     
  5. collinsl

    collinsl MajorGeek

    If you are doing this with your girlfriend's knowledge, then why not ask her to get a credit report on herself? This is perfectly legal and should be no problem at all for her to do. She should also be able to request her own background check from the government.
     
  6. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    she doesnt know how to do that, heck, I dont know how to do that either
    if someone asked me for a background check, I wouldnt be able to request anything from the government, so how does one do that?
     
  7. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    Nope, doesnt work
    I have a bench warrent out for my arrest from a ticket I got a while back, I talked to the ADA when he will get back from vacation in 2 days and it'll be taken care of, but I type my name and state into google and no results come up about my warrent/court case, anything
    so Is there a better way to do a background check on someone?
     
  8. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

  9. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    yes, Ive found a lot of background searches that also want my money.
    I want a computer and apparently I can buy a variety of hardware/software. but I use consumer reports and get an idea of what I should expect for my money in what I buy,.
    this is what I mentioned about wanting in a background check,
    ie:
    so in the 2 nanoseconds it took you to find something online; have you used this? from readings your post, it seems you have absolutely ZERO experience using it, or you'd say, "I had good results when I used " intelius".
    so before I throw money at some random site, maybe I can find someone who has used a service before and get their feedback on it

    that would be a smart idea, eh?
     
  10. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

    I have no need to run a background check on people I date.
     
  11. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Do you want a background check on your girlfriend or a product review of a computer??:confused
     
  12. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    oh, so that explains why your answer wasnt useful, now I understand
     
  13. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    both
    only i know how to procure a review of a computer I want to buy, I dont have anyone with experience to suggest a way to get a background check that they've used
    :-D
     
  14. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

  15. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    dang it
    I have a membership to consumer reports.com; it had nothing about background checks,
    I never thought there'd be a ranking list to look at for background checks

    nice find and thanks
     
  16. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    If you need a background check on your girlfriend, maybe you shouldn't be dating.
     
  17. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    that doesnt make a lot of sense
     
  18. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    What doesn't make sense about it?

    A background check is used primarily by businesses to detemine the credibility of someone (driving records, criminal history, etc) they are looking to hire. If there is some doubt in your mind as to your girlfriend's character, so much so that you are prompted to look for a background check instead of asking her (unless you did and you feel that she lied) then something is wrong there, any relationship starts with untrust/problems, it's not going to get better. You're just better off not dating her. It's also a little strange that you want her credit report, I mean it's not like she's applying for a credit card from you...

    I don't know of any free background check places but I know you can get one free credit report a year from annualcreditreport.com. Be careful though, using someone's info to access their credit report is techincally considered identity theft.
     
  19. gman863

    gman863 MajorGeek

    After seeing what two of my friends went through (one male, one female) after marrying abusers, I respectfully disagree. In both cases, a comprehensive background report would have raised red flags on domestic violence issues with previous partners.

    If a relationship hits a point where marriage or co-habitation is on the horizon, both parties should be up front enough to allow the other to get an unbiased report on what (if any) skeletons are in the closet. Some people are better liars than others (trust me, I have learned this the hard way in business). Anyone who refuses such a request is not someone I would want a serious business or personal relationship with.

    A bit off-topic, but I feel the same way about medical tests for STDs. What you don't know could possibly kill you.
     
  20. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    You should be able to talk about these things. If you're approaching marriage and feel like you can't talk honestly with the person you are dating, to the point you have to get a background check, you have no business getting married. Seriously.
     
  21. gman863

    gman863 MajorGeek

    Again, based on what I've seen, pathological liars can talk a good game and appear honest. I would have no problems with a potential partner running a background check on me so long as they disclosed they were doing it.

    I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
     
  22. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    Trust me, my ex-boyfriend is a pathological liar (ex for a reason ;) ) so I understand them all too well. The thing with liars is they can't keep their stories straight and as good a liar as he was, he couldn't keep his stories straight and it took some time but eventually he got caught.

    I feel that if you have to do something as drastic as a background check, there is basically no trust (even with the other person's permission), no trust in relationships = never a good thing.

    Just my opinion.
     
  23. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    why risk trusting someone at all?
    something goes bad and things get hurt, you get hurt, or kids get hurt, what do you do?
    you end up asking yourself, "what could I have done to prevent this?"

    so one of those answers is a simple background check, maybe you'd like to be warned of past criminal history,etc before exposing yourself and kids to someone?

    Life is about making a choice to minimize risk, I see no harm in a background check.
    so I'd also do one if I felt the need
     
  24. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    good idea, do a background check on somene BEFORE you get into a relationship with them, just to check for red flags, protect yourself and maybe some kids
    i see no harm, you arent breaking trust you havent built yet
    Oh just in case people think these are all facts and how everyone is, these are JUST MY OPINIONS!:-D
    Ddddduuuuurrrrrrr;)
     
  25. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    good jokes!
     
  26. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    what doesnt make sense is, "why not do it?"
    I see no downside?
    I see upsides to it, I just don't see downsides to it.


    so why not do it? that's what doesnt make sense to me
    I am really curious as to what downsides you see about getting a bit of a background on someone.
    I'd like to know what I might be getting into, does the person have a drug problem, divorced, kids, own or rent, etc

    if someone handed me a file about someone I just met and I'm thinking about dating and thus exposing them to my life/my pets/kids/facebook page!! why wouldn't I look at the file?

    can I also assume you are against per-nuptial agreements? and you'd say, "if you think you need one, you shouldn't get married!!!!!"
     
  27. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    If you don't wasn't to trust people, then stay out of relationships. No trust = no relationship.
     
  28. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    how fast do you trust someone you start dating?

    I'm not talking about trust, I'm talking about avoiding bad apples by using a background check.
    example:
    I get to pick between sarah and kelly. I did a background check and Kelly has a bad background compared to sarah,

    Maybe I avoided some drama by not picking kelly. Maybe now I will date sarah and perhaps I will eventually trust her,


    you also don't believe in prenuptial agreements?
     
  29. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    Sounds more like you are hiring someone rather than wanting to actually have an emotional relationship with them. I'm surprised you find anyone interested in basically applying for a position to date you, but I'm also surprised people want to be tied up to a wall and whipped while wearing a leather diaper....If someone is looking for that, they are out there as well. To each their own.

    If that's your prerequisite to dating, and you can find someone out there, I'm of the opinion...go for it. I think if you are looking for background checks on something, you are better served to both be tested for sexually transmitted diseases to make sure you're both clean, but that's just me.

    It looks to me like your Background check info was answered, so I'm going to just remind all to keep this civil. If it gets nasty or out of hand, I'm closing it.
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2013
  30. solaris89

    solaris89 First Sergeant

    But Kelly is into solar energy while Sarah wastes energy using fossil fuels. Also, Sarah does have the higher credit rating but Kelly has a personal bankruptcy on file. My god, both are 7th Day Adventists. What will you do? WHAT WILL YOU DO?

    There is so much wrong with what you posted that I'm shocked you'd want it on the web for everyone to see.
     
  31. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    LOL, prenups?


    My wife and I have been together for 18 years. I took her in after being kicked out by my parents when I was 19. I had 500 dollars to my name, an arm and hand in a cast (didn't come off for 9 months), and could barely feed myself. I took her in with no questions asked when her family kicked her out.

    I was there when her family tried to ruin her. I defended and sheltered her. We were together when we were netting over 6 figures a year. We were together when in practically overnight, we went down to grossing 20k a year and lost everything: a place to live, our cars, our belongings.

    She supported our family when I went back to school and couldn't work. When she bought her car, I sold my junker because we needed the money. I sold my computers. I had almost nothing.

    I recently got a new job and now make twice as much as she does. I had to buy a car, because I have a 2 hour commute every day. Because I didn't have work history, it is in her name. I trust her implicitly and she trusts me.

    Never once have I done a background check. There are things about her I don't know, and surprises that came about later. Yet, we are still together.

    And you ask if I believe in prenups?

    LOL!

    You have a lot to learn about relationships if you feel the need for background checks. I feel bad for you, as it must be a lonely existence. I especially enjoyed how you emphasized that she is from the USA, as if untrustworthy people aren't a worldwide epidemic rolleyes Do what you like with prenups, but if you are thinking about them while merely dating, you are doing it wrong!



    I sense an ulterior motive for this thread.
     
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  32. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    There is usually an initial level of trust, before even considering a relationship. It's not going to be an deep, consuming trust where you know every possible thing. It might just be the tiniest little sliver of trust but there is something.

    Your logic is flawed. Background checks aren't the know all, and sometimes have incorrect information.

    I'll use your own example:

    You find out Kelly has a bad background, let's say she's been arrested for assault and Sarah hasn't. What you don't know is that Kelly & Sarah used to be friends and Kelly started dating a guy Sarah liked who didn't like Sarah. This made Sarah very angry and in an effort to get "revenge", Sarah made up lies saying Kelly assaulted her. Kelly gets arrested and prosecuted.

    Therefore, you just made a judgement call on someone for something they didn't even do!

    Don't say "this could never happen" because it actually happens A LOT. It happened to my friend.
     
  33. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    sliver of trust?
    perhaps? but I've been burned and I know people who have been burned enough to trust only when trust is earned,


    I heard Washington DC burned to the ground, so I was going to go there, now I'm not
    oh it didnt burn? so it wasnt my logic that was flawed, it was the information I got about a fire that was wrong. :p

    yes, that makes sense,


    "this could never happen,"
    no, I likely wouldnt say that, because using universals are rarely correct. (basic test prep taught me that!)
    judgement call?
    so make up your mind? either a background report is going to give me "logic" or it is going to give me "judgements" on someone. and here I was thinking it was reporting facts and Id use those facts to decide my course of action,

    yes, you do raise a good point, I would need to ensure I have a good background check, or do a cost/benefit to the reports content.

    you raise one potential con in doing a background report, a potential of an incorrect report.
    I will take that as a case by case occurrence, I doubt it matters much.
     
  34. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    great ancedotal evidence there! my parents got married at 20yo they were dirt poor and worked while the other went to college/grad school and yadda yadda yadda,45yrs later they are still together
    and as most lawyers do, they recommend a pre-nup because things change, or do you not have insurance? or understand that marriage is a business arrangement? or did you not get a business/marriage license?

    I sure hope I have a lot to learn about everything. as you have a lot to learn about common sense, buisness arrangements, others having a different view on the world.

    1st, the issue about the american comment is easily explained.
    in the thread I linked to about background checks, David wanted to know if the person was American, so being aware that might have been asked, I just answered it.
    You have a ton to learn about what exactly a pre-nup does. you obviously have no idea, since you arent a lawyer or a businessman, so get back at me when you have an actual question or even a specific statement and not your broad, very general platitudes about a topic you don't know anything about.
    hint: getting married when you own next to nothing isnt the same when you marry and own stuff/have kids.:wave
     
  35. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I doubt any of this matters much, because you will die a lonely man if you approach relationships this way.
     
  36. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Contact a private investigator.
     
  37. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Funny you tell me I have a lot to learn about common sense when you are looking into background checks for dates.

    LOL

    Here is a hint: smart people have squeaky clean background checks. So apparently you doubt your own intelligence to sniff out stupid bad people, or you are naive enough to think a background check has any hope of weeding out people with ill intentions.

    I remember the last time I did a credit check on my date... said no one ever.

    Seeing how you talk down to me like I am a child, I am curious.

    How old are you?
     
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  38. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    Who hasn't been burned? it's a part of life, a part of being human. You can't know the motives of every single person you meet even if you do a background check on them. rolleyes


    I get it thought, you don't want logic and common sense, you want what you want even though it makes not one bit of sense and that's cool but don't expect it get you very far if you approach people with a you are better than them attitude or treat them as if they are criminals.

    Good luck with that.
     
  39. jimi

    jimi Private E-2

    wow, that is an amazing mind set you have going on.
    how unfortunate for you that this statement is spot on.
     
  40. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    approach in what way?
    you mean the same way as I buy a car? using a background check to warn me of any big red flags?

    I look at my own history and have no fear about how I approach relationships, see I know more about myself than you know,
    how lonely you must be to constantly insert your opinion when anyone asks you a question.
    I just asked for a good background check to use to weed out trouble, so I dont have to waste time on people who are just trouble.
    you go into areas where being married for ages has left you apparently very lonely, as you try to prop yourself up as a know it all about dating in 2013/relationships
    even more telling about your own personal life is your constant need to try to snipe at me. :zzz

    Since you have nothing to offer, as you have shown, except your generalizations/platitudes/cliches, then I'll see ya around ;)
     
  41. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

    Watchntv, I don't see a problem with a criminal background check. It could save you from someone with serious issues though you need to temper it with reason. I have no idea what insight you hope to find in a credit report, though.

    Marriage is not a business arrangement which can be evaluated via spreadsheet in order to determine a cost/benefit ratio. If that makes no sense, you should perhaps consider prostitutes, which actually is a business arrangement.

    As for prenuptial agreements, if you feel the need for one, you should reconsider marriage altogether. If you don't trust someone with your money, how can you trust that person with more important things?
     
  42. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest



    I am just conversing. Don't like it? The novel answer is don't read and don't post replies ;) Even better, stop posting and nobody will have anything to say to you that you won't like.

    You will notice a lot of negativity posted to towards you here and not just from me. Reading your replies makes it clear that you think you are fine and everyone else has a problem.

    You are a deluded mess.
     
  43. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    PEOPLE ARE NOT OBJECTS! You can't compare the two, I shouldn't have to tell you that.


    You are hilarious. You have the audacity to belittle and dismiss someone who takes the time to answer your ridiculous question because it's not *your* answer.

    Wait a minute! you mean ask questions and people answer??? oh the tragedy! omg what are you ever going to do??!



    Here's what I'm gonna do; I'm going to ignore you because I'm sick of your absurd and immature antics. Grow up.
     
  44. Goldenskull

    Goldenskull I can't follow the rules

    Totally agree i mean hell he has me on the ignore list but what ever if that is the way he wants it fine bye me.

    I never ignore any body on any game or any forum unless they really tick me off and which it is hard to do now a days.

    Only people that put others on ignore for no reason really need to grow up i agree dyamond.
     
  45. Phantom

    Phantom Brigadier Britches

    They way I see it is, he is just basically an attention whore, with no concepts of human relationships. This extends to forum threads, which are always with the same tempo. TV asks some ridiculous question; people get suckered into answering. The answers make no difference, as everyone gets ridiculed and talked down to by someone with an obvious superiority complex. I used to be a Psychiatric Nurse - seen it all before.
    Good luck, dude with your 'relationships', 'cause you're going to need it if your for real. And thanks for the laughs.;)
     
  46. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Barry you have a great insight and I agree with you and many others in this thread, Dya, Adryn, goldenskull el al

    Cannot compare cars to humans in life, a car in inanimate it has no feelings, a human is an entity that you need to form a relationship with and one shoe does not fit all, so you have to take that chance and see how things go....

    So in some things I have read in this thread, you should not be divulging financial details and if you need to do a background check on someone for financial dealings then not a great place to start from in a relationship, RUN now!

    You could do a background check via a PI and it comes out OK, then you find the person is a psycho! people are different and what one relationship had for two people, does not mean another relationship with one said person and you will not be better, it may be, it may be worse, but who would be at fault, could be the said person and could be YOU!

    Relationships we start on trust to begin with and then they develop to being great or not so great.
     
  47. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    Aaaand...I think this thread has run it's course.
     
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