Ballsy Customers

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Adrynalyne, Nov 1, 2004.

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Would You call a company for support on a pirated product?

Poll closed Nov 5, 2004.
  1. Sure, I like taking risks.

    3 vote(s)
    13.6%
  2. Nope, I fix pirated software on my own.

    19 vote(s)
    86.4%
  1. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I tell you what, we get some ballsy customers that call Microsoft.

    Today one called and he got a Windows Product Activation prompt on boot.

    If he activated, it would work fine, until he rebooted.

    If he didn't activate, it would log him back to the Welcome screen.

    Well, phone tech calls me up and can't figure out how to fix it. So I have him go to msconfig and get me a list of the third party services.

    What does my eye spy?

    Reset5.

    Call me weird, but I wouldn't risk calling a company I pirated software from for support on said pirated product.

    Would you?
     
  2. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    hahahaha That's pricless! :D Did you tell the guy that you knew he had pirated software?
     
  3. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    We aren't allowed to.

    Instead, we told him that there was nothing we could do, it was format time.

    He uh...couldn't find his CD....

    LOL.

    Ranks right up there when we have customers wilth obvious CD errors or cannot activate and we have them read us what it says on top.

    We get responses like:

    FGCKW-"insert Devilsown product key"

    "Memorex"

    "It says nothing, its all silver, and has a blue bottom"

    "Dell" (When its not a Dell computer, LOL)
     
  4. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    MS could cut down piracy by suing its own support customers LOL.
     
  5. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    hahahaha That guys hilarious! He probably doesn't own a single legit piece of software! hahaha :D
     
  6. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

    Maybe they don't know?
     
  7. ~Pyrate~

    ~Pyrate~ MajorGeek

    yea ... i had a friend who i was convinced she had bought a pirated windows copy ... well .. cause she didn't have a serial number :rolleyes: or a CD
     
  8. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest


    I refuse to believe that. Mostly because I was on the other end of the conversation and could observe their reaction when we discovered the piracy.

    Some, when they find out, are scared and want to rid themselves of any legal liability and get a legit copy.

    Many, many more suddenly have run out of time to troubleshoot on the call, but will call back...

    Of course, I get email notifications when someone reopens a case of mine, and it never happens.
     
  9. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Adryn,

    So why is it that they do not want you to confront the caller with the fact that they have a pirated program?
     
  10. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Its a company policy.

    I'm guessing its because they don't want to get sued if someone is incorrectly accused.

    That would be my guess.

    We also were not allowed to discuss legal proceedings and so forth when the Justice department was raking MS over the coals.
     
  11. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest


    Also, if customer service was doing their job, these people would never make it to the techs.

    But enough crap has been outsourced to India, that its all gone to hell.
     
  12. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

    Are you able to inform these people that they 'may have a licensing issue' or is even that going too far for the ambulance chasers?
     
  13. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Yeah we can to a degree.

    The safest way I found is to refer them to this article:

    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326904

    Thats when licensing issues are most common.

    Or if they install multiple times, we tell them that it simply will not activate to extra computers.
     
  14. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Yeah! This is a big problem everywhere. Too many jobs are being shipped off shore.
     
  15. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    That's a great alternative.
     
  16. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Bwahahaha!

    I caught 2 more people using it today!

    This is fun :D

    I'm just telling techs to format em.

    What is hapepning, is they install Sp2, and it breaks reset5 :D :D
     
  17. NeoNemesis

    NeoNemesis Moutharrhea

    Are you allowed to tell them their computer is broken, and they need to bring it to the shop for a new motherboard or hardrive, or something you make up?
     
  18. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I tell the techs to tell the customer that they have malicious software on their system and its format time :D :D
     
  19. NeoNemesis

    NeoNemesis Moutharrhea

    hehe thats good enough. then they'll ultimately end up going to the shop, buying a new copy of windows, paying the tech's to fix it. so their pretty much spending 4x as much as they normally would for a regular copy.... fools :)
     
  20. jarcher

    jarcher I can't handle a title

    I see there is no
    "I don't own any pirated software" option

    But that is pretty funny, I will give you that
    There are alot of "hand me down" or "bought from a guy, I know" computers.
    and Who knows whats on there?


    And When I bought (well my wife with my money) it did not come with a cd.
     
  21. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    You caught that eh?

    ;)
     
  22. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    MS must be pretty good at separating the BS from the simply annoying as far as Activation goes. (I'm annoying :D)

    At first, I was a bit worried since I frequently change hardware, occassionally format and start fresh, and knew I'd be reactivating multiple times. I've done it enough that automatic activation chokes, but I've never had a problem reactivating over the phone. They ask me why, and I start telling them what all I've done to the box, and they reactivate me.

    But it always amazes me that guys that will pay well over a grand for the latest & greatest hardware without even blinking choke over a hundred & something bucks for the heart & soul of the computer. I dunno. Maybe they stole the hardware too.
     
  23. Shiver Me Timbers

    Shiver Me Timbers MajorGeek

    Be honest, MS cheeses me off. Reason, I purchased software, they offered support for it for a few years and now they don't want to support it anymore. Have a second puter, bought XP, now I don't think it's right I can't use the one copy of XP on two or three computers seeing how they want to discontinue supporting my windows 98.

    I think people deserve tech support even if they did pirate it.


    Now I am truly logging out and heading to the sack.
     
  24. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    I don't think so.
     
  25. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    A few points to be made.

    1. You don't purchase software. You purchase licenses, that allow you to use the software. You have the legal right to return said software if you don't agree with the terms within. If you agreed to it, you are bound by a legal contract.

    2. Companies stop supporting older software all the time. Sooner or later, it happens. When it does, they stop supporting it. Its the nature of the business.

    3. People who pirate software stole it. They don't deserve anything.
     
  26. airwolf9090

    airwolf9090 Corporal

    i only have one pirated software and m$ does not support it nomore and they dont sale it nomore and its windows 98se and i never had a problem with it so you tell me is it pirated software if they dont sale it nomore now if they started to sale it again i would go out and buy it because i always used win98se and i dont like anyother windows system
     
  27. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    98se is still supported.

    98 RTM is not.

    You were misinformed.
     
  28. CLarKEY

    CLarKEY Private Epilepic Seizure Inducer

    I reformat a lot too, not because i install new stuff, because the less computer literate users aka my family F it up all the time and i have to fix it and sometime she's too far gone
     
  29. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Adyrn,

    The below appears to be a part of a validation process by MS. Yes/No? How does it get loaded on certain PCs? Does this now happen when you download directly from MS? I do not see it all the time. Looks like it is part of the war on piracy.

    O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=34738&clcid=0x409
     
  30. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Thats psrt of that validation check that MS started up.

    Its completely voluntary AFAIK, someone actively did it.

    Let me gt more info on it.
     
  31. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

  32. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Thanks! So I guess this does not happen automatically when downloading from Microsoft Update?
     
  33. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

  34. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I'm up to 5 people now I've caught with reset5.

    Silly rabbits.
     

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