Cannot run AntiVirus, HijackThis, Spybot etc

Discussion in 'Malware Help (A Specialist Will Reply)' started by VelvetWood, Mar 15, 2005.

  1. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    Please help!

    I cannot run any of the spyware assist software. When I click on anything useful (spyblaster, spybot, antivirus, CTl-alt-del for taskmanager), the startup for the relevant software appears on my screen and then disappears before I can do anything.

    Also IE vanishes when I try to visit the Spyware forum on this website (I am writing this from another PC) I can visit some websites. Email is still working. Help seems to be completely disabled.

    I have windows xp and norton antivirus both of which I keep up-to-date.

    When PC starts up it asks if I want to CSNS.exe (I think) and then svhost.exe (definitely!). This started today.

    The only software I ws able to run was Ad-adware\SE - this found several critical items including DyFuCA, IBIS Toolbar, SurfSideKickBHO, istbar which I removed only for them to reappear again.

    Any help would be much appreciated

    Velvetwood
     
  2. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Can you run any of them from Safe mode and with your internet cable disconnected.
     
  3. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    Wow - quick response chaslang - thanks!

    No even is safe mode they do not work :(

    Velvetwood
     
  4. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    DO you have HijackThis? If so, what version and does it run?
     
  5. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    Yes chaslang. I cant run it tho. Whenever I try to it flashes onto my screen and then vanishes before i can do anything.

    It is version 1.99

    Velvetwood
     
  6. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    What OS do you have?

    Can you run HJT in safe mode? Also before trying safe mode, try killing (if you can use Task Manager) all processes that you do not recognize.
     
  7. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Also can you download to another PC and then transfer files to this one.
     
  8. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    CHasLang

    I have tried running taskmanager and hijackthis is safe mode and it makes no difference, the software appears briefly on my screen and then vanishes.

    I have my laptop on the net currently (writing this) but do not have the means to transfer from one pc to another.

    Velvetwood
     
  9. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    WIndows Xp
     
  10. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Hmmm! This is not going to be easy.

    Try renaming hijackthis.exe to myhjt.com and see if it will stay open.

    Do you have floppy drives in these PC's?
    How about a CD burner in the good system?
     
  11. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    Renamed HijackThis and tried running but still didn't work.

    Have floppydrives on both PCs but not sure I have any floppy disks. Dont have CD on good PC. Well dont have it on either really because it is broken - lol.
    Living in the darkages here!

    Renamed other documents (such as preventing malware to preventing) and could then read it, so will try changing things to more obscure names.

    VelvetWood
     
  12. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Does msconfig run and stay open? It will be difficult to work on this unless you have the ability to get other programs on this PC.

    Do any programs run and stay open? Notepad, Word, any other applications not related to malware removal?

    Can you open a command prompt window and does it stay open?

    Earlier I asked:
    You only answered about safe mode. How about in safe mode with the cable to your internet physically disconnected.

    Are you on dial-up, Cable, or DSL?

    What other virus scan apps or malware type applications do you have on this PC? Name everything you have.

    Please try running Ad-Aware SE again (in safe mode) and select Perform full system scan.
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2005
  13. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    Hi Chaslang

    msconfig works
    regedit doesnt (which is pretty damn inconvenient)
    command prompt window opens but then freezes

    The above 3 are the same whether in safe mode (without internet cable) or not.

    I have spyblaster, spybot, ccleaner, hijackthis, ad-adware-se, norton antinvirus, noadware (which i dont use cos its rubbish)

    I connect via diallup

    I ran ad-adware-se (which is the only thing I can run of the above) full system scan in safe mode and it found nothing this time.

    I can run other things - I can download emails, connect to some webpages (Majorgeeks homepage for example - just not the forums). Notepad still works.

    One of the things ad-adware-se found yesterday was ibis toolbar which i tried to remove but its tricky without regedit.

    Have disabled svhost.exe and csnss.exe because whenver I start the pc I get a security message asking if I want to run them, but that has made no difference

    Thanks for your help - excuse the timelag but I am in the UK (20:52 here)
    velvetwood
     
  14. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    You could try using msconfig to disable the loading of all unnessary startups. In fact can you tell me what you see in there.


    Are you sure is is svhost.exe and not svchost.exe ?
    Also is it csnss.exe or is it csrss.exe?

    And how are you disabling these? And what is the exact wording of the security message and from whom is the message?
     
  15. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    Chaslang

    It is definitely svhost.exe and csnss.exe. I disabled them using startup tab in msconfig.

    I can't reproduce the error messages at the moment - but they are something like "this program is from an unknown publisher that we cannot verify - do you wish to run this program" - to which I reply no. I think it is due to my security settings in windows.

    The StartUp Items in my System Configuration are:
    navapw32
    DirectCD - this is for my sons mp3 player and has been on the system for several months
    E_S10IC2
    SNDMon
    csnss (twice)
    svhost (was twice earlier, now only once)
    ypager
    msnmsgr
    CTDetect
    MicroSoft Office
    SideACT! - software my husband uses for his business

    I disabled svhost and csnss (all occurrences) earlier, and rebooted, but still could not run regedit etc

    Velevetwood

    The other stuff in startup is
     
  16. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Try looking at the Services tab. And select Hide All Microsoft Services. Tell me what is left (Service name and Manufacturer too).
     
  17. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    Creative Service for CDROM Access - Creative Technology Ltd
    IMAPI CD-bruning COM service - ROXIO Inc
    Norton ANtivirus Autoprotect service - Symantec Corp
    Scriptblocking Service - Symantec Corp
    Symantec Network Drivers Service - Unknown
    SymWMI Service - Symantec Corp
     
  18. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Try opening a command prompt window and entering the below:

    sfc /scannow

    It may prompt you for your WinXP CD at some point!
     
  19. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    when i start the command window it freezes. I tried rebooting in safe mode with command prompt and it went to the command prompt, but when I started typing it chucked be back to the safe mode screen and I had to switch off and start again.

    This doesnt look good does it?

    velvetwood
     
  20. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    No it doesn't! Do you have your WinXP CD? A system repair may be the next step.

    Which vintage of WinXP are you running? XP, XP SP1, SP1a , SP2?
     
  21. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    I have it somewhere. I will have to go seek!!

    Not sure which XP we have.

    Will a system repair lose good stuff too?

    I have to go now cos I'm UK time and I have work tomorrow, so post at your leisure.

    I will let you know how I get on.

    Many thanks for all yr help so far chaslang xx

    Velvetwood
     
  22. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    It depends on what level of damage there is in your PC.

    But does it really matter right now. You cannot do to much anyway. In fact you may be looking at a reinstall. Not sure exactly what happened to your system but it is going to be next to impossible to figure out what is wrong and to fix anything if you cannot download anything to the PC and cannot run just about anything.

    A repair operation is about the only left to try before format and reinstall.
     
  23. VelvetWood

    VelvetWood Private E-2

    chaslang

    Thanks for all your help. Finally to add insult to injury having found some floppies, I tried to repair the registry on the knacked pc and cannot read the a:drive (wonderful!!). Not sure if the problem was the actual floppy but I suspect that it is down to the pc!

    Browsing around the web over the last couple of days is looks like I have a Sircam or Doom variant virus because it has affected many .exe files. Have tried renaming regedit.exe to .com, .bat, .scr but all to no avail.

    Just to let you know what my plan is:
    - I am going to get my good pc uptodate with all your good advice - remove norton, get spybot recommended virus checker etc
    - have one last attempt at running hjt or spybot or something useful from the a:drive on the pc
    - if that fails try a rebuild

    I'll let you know how it goes!

    velvetwood
     
  24. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    OK! If you think you have MyDoom, you could try some of the removal tools but that means you need a way to get the files on the PC. Try reformatting the floppies in another PC before bring them to this PC. Also write protect them before inserting them into the infected PC.

    We have some MyDoom Removal tools like: Symantec W32.Mydoom@mm Removal Tool

    Check out the stuff in the AntiVirus file directory: http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads29.html
     

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