computer problem

Discussion in 'Malware Help (A Specialist Will Reply)' started by rudie, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. rudie

    rudie Private E-2

    since a few days it happens that my computer does strange things. it happens that i cannot klick on anything because my mouse seems to run on my desktop?
    someone told me that this is a tell tale sign of a hacker that is on my pc.
    what can i do to remove that a hole from my computer and prevent him from accessing my computer again
    how can i protect myself
    i have nod 32 virus software
    windows defender
    from the major geek site i downloaded spybot and spyware blaster and advanced spyware blaster and pc tools antvirus
     
  2. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Welcome to Majorgeeks!

    You should be running only one anti-virus program.
    You need to disconnect from the internet with the suspect computer and download the needed programs to a different computer and install on the infected one.

    Please follow our standard cleaning procedures which are necessary for us to provide you support. Also there are steps included for installing, running, and posting HijackThis logs as attachments.
    • Run ALL the steps in this Sticky thread READ & RUN ME FIRST Before Asking for Support
    • Make sure you check version numbers and get all updates.
    • Very Important: Make sure you tell us the results from running the tutorial...was anything found? Were you unable to complete any of the scans?...Were you unable to download any of the tools?...Did you do the on-line scans as suggested? etc.
    • After doing ALL of the above you still have a problem make sure you have booted to normal mode and run the steps in the below link to properly use HijackThis and attach a log:
    Make sure you also rename HijackThis.exe as suggested in the procedures. Use analyse.exe for the new name. This is very important due to some new infections going around.
    • When you return to make your next post, make sure you attach the following logs and that you have run these scans in the following order too:
      • CounterSpy
      • AVG Antispyware log - ONLY IF NEEDED you were not able to run CounterSpy
      • Bitdefender - from step 6
      • Panda Scan - from step 6
      • runkeys.txt - the log from GetRunKey.bat
      • newfiles.txt - the log from ShowNew.bat
      • HijackThis
    NOTE: You can only attach 3 files in a single message so it will require that you use two messages to attach all of these logs!
     
  3. rudie

    rudie Private E-2

    thank you for your answer. i really do not know anything about computers.
    so what you have writen i do not understand. me and computers just do not mix. I get highly irritated by those machines and following your advice will make that I blow my top in less than 10 sec because i will not be able to understand. I have truble enough understanding how this site/forum works
    but thanks any way for your advice. i mean that.
     
  4. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    The instructions are long (detailed), but the actual process is very easy....just do one thing at a time and you should find it easy enough.

    Try doing them with the infected computer ...if doing it from downloads to a different computer is the main obstacle.
     
  5. rudie

    rudie Private E-2

    thank you but it takes me forever to write this reply because i do not know how to get to this point. that is 1
    2. following the steps sounds easy but it is not. the steps are not clear for some one like me who knows nothing about computers or software. I have to download sure but where do I find that. and I do not find a stap 6. i do not find many of the items on the list simply because it is not clear where to look. I am a grammar school teacher and i often see that directions be it software or hardware are poorly written. steps are left out. if i were to instruct children in the same fashion the would never learn how to do anything:)
    my advice is make the steps "smaller" in other words do it like you would explain it to a 2 year old! other wise the steps are to difficult for people like me who do not know much about computers and have no help present.
    I am doing my best but i am getting nowhere. so please rewrite the steps so that everyone can understand them do never think "this is so clear i do not have to eleborate on this". you do!
    greetings
     
  6. rudie

    rudie Private E-2

    I will give an other example I do not know how to unzip things when i have downloaded them I have to unzip I do not know how to do that. so I can not work with hijjack this to name just one file that had te be unzipped.
     
  7. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    You will need a program to unzip the files. If you do not have WinRar, then I would suggest using ZipGenius.

    Now let's just do some of the simple scans. Please download Counterspy and run it. (If you have ever used it before you will not be able to use it again ---which is why we suggest running AVGAnti-spyware.

    Both will allow you to delete/quarantine all that it finds - do so. They will also allow you to save a log ...do so (as a text - to your desktop for easy access when time to attach it to your next post).

    Next ...6A: Online Virus And Trojan Scanning

    Please run the below two online scanning tools and make sure you save and attach the logs later to any request for help that you post. From step 5 you should already be in safe mode but you will need to reconnect your cable now and possibly reboot and choose Safe Mode with Networking Support. If you cannot connect in safe mode for any reason (like dial-up users), run the online scanners in normal boot mode. You will need to use Internet Explorer to run these online scans. Also MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE LATEST SUN JAVA Version installed by checking against the below link which normally has the most current version. This may help prevent some problems in trying to get these online scanners to run. Get Sun Java here: Sun Java Runtime Environment Before installing the current version, you should uninstall all previous versions first!!!!


    *** MAKE SURE YOU RUN BITDEFENDER BEFORE PANDA ACTIVE SCAN ***
    *** But if Bitdefender cannot be run then run PandaActiveScan anyway ***

    ****NOTE**** DO NOT INSTALL Bitdefender's Antivirus program. Make sure you follow the directions below and run the ONLINE SCANNER only.


    Bitdefender agree to the license and then select Scan. DO NOT CHANGE THE OPTIONS TO SHOW ALL FILES SCANNED. That will make your logs huge and we don't need to see clean files. Once Bitdefender completes the scan:

    Click-on the Detected Problems tab. Then select Click here to export the scan report

    When the window comes up to save the report, change the Save as type: box to Text (Tab Delimited) (*.txt) and then in the File name box enter change to bdscan then click save. This will save a file named bdscan.txt in whatever folder you are currently in when you save the file (take notice of where you are at so you can find it later).

    Lets do these two items first ...then we will move on.
     
  8. rudie

    rudie Private E-2

    thank you for your advice but as i said before it is just not clear to me. I understand the steps I have to take ( fist use counter spy then use bit defender) but I do not know how to work within the steps. e.g I have to download panda but where do I find panda, I have found one panda program (do not know if it is the right one) but that opens with winrar. I do have winrar but have no idea how that program works and reading the help part does not help. I just do not understand it. I can not find the things I have to click on as I should be doing according to the help. the steps are just not clear too many steps are left out or not explained (it maight be logical to someone who knows what to do but not for someone who knows nothing about the program) it is just like explaining long division to a 5 year old, that will never ever work.
    that is what I mean when I write the staps are not clear to me.
    the same goes for the next staps in the protocol, where do I find them and how do I operate them.
    like get run key where to look for it and how to operate it.
    So at this moment I am stuck at panda (where to look for it and how to work winrar)
    I can understand that my questions might drive you crazy that is not my intention.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 13, 2007
  9. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Can you download and run Counterspy?

    Can you get online and go to this link and follow these instructions?
    Bitdefender: agree to the license and then select Scan. DO NOT CHANGE THE OPTIONS TO SHOW ALL FILES SCANNED. That will make your logs huge and we don't need to see clean files. Once Bitdefender completes the scan:

    Click-on the Detected Problems tab. Then select Click here to export the scan report

    When the window comes up to save the report, change the Save as type: box to Text (Tab Delimited) (*.txt) and then in the File name box enter change to bdscan then click save. This will save a file named bdscan.txt in whatever folder you are currently in when you save the file (take notice of where you are at so you can find it later). This bdcan.txt file will actually contain HTML code that we can easily view later while reviewing your log. All we have to do is rename the file to bdscan.html.

    Bitscan link
     
  10. rudie

    rudie Private E-2

    hello,
    I do not understand much of what you are writing. I am sorry. I have tried to follow all instructions. I have run hijackthis. I have really no idea how to attach a file. I have tried which means i have pushed a few buttons and thats it. no idea if the logfile is attachted nor if it was saved the right way.
     
  11. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

  12. rudie

    rudie Private E-2

    thank you for your truble but this is just more of the same to me. I just do not understand anything about computers and computer software so this explenation? is also completely not understandeble for me.
     
  13. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Do you have problems with the English language? Do you know how to download programs? Can you double click and follow the prompts on the screen. What exactly do you not understand ---- please be specific.
     
  14. rudie

    rudie Private E-2

    it is not the english language i have trouble with.I make spelling mistakes sure but that is because i do not use the language often. It just that i simple do not understand the things written. I should have to print it because clicking forward en back does not work for me. No printer inkt because I do not understand the manual how to remove it of place it back.
    somehow what is written in a manuel does not correspond with what I see on my screen. that is true for my printer as it is for all the explanations given to me here. I have tried to send my log file. that probebly did not work perhaps this works. I just copy and paste it here.
     

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  15. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    rudie, at this point, you will need to take your computer to someone who can work on it, hands on. I understand not being able to follow the instructions due to lack of computer knowledge. At this point, i do not believe we will be able to assist you.

    This is going to cause you more stress than its worth.

    Good luck friend :)
     

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