Display driver nvlddmkm

Discussion in 'Software' started by kravenscookiejar, Dec 22, 2011.

  1. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    Well, now that MG has helped me solve my own computer's malware issues, a new issue has cropped up... this time on my husband's computer.

    "Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has recovered."

    It started randomly. It first happens about one minute after the desktop shows. Then it happens with increasing frequency as you try to use the computer, and about five minutes later causes a blue screen crash.

    I've read multiple threads about it here and elsewhere, but I honestly couldn't follow along, as they all seemed to have different reasons for the crash.

    Any help would be awesome. The computer is unusable as is. And he just started SWTOR on my computer today, so... I need his for my Facebooking. ;)

    His PC:

    Dell Vostro 220
    Pentium Dual Core E5300 2.6 GHz
    2 gigs RAM
    GeForce 8400 GS

    I've already tried downloaded the latest Nvidia drivers and installing them. That didn't solve the problem. I've read to try other driver versions, but it literally took me an hour just to try the first one. With the screen going black every 5 - 50 seconds, it's a little difficult to browse for drivers, and I don't have any way, currently, to move files to his computer from my own.
     
  2. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    What Windows version and Service Pack is the PC at?

    In Device Manager are there any yellow ! marks by any device and if so what?

    Has any new software been installed just before this happened and if so what?

    If you can boot into Safe Mode (F8 at boot and choose Safe Mode with Networking) and is the PC working ok in Safe Mode?
     
  3. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    Ah I'm sorry, I forgot to add a pretty vital detail there, eh? He's running Windows Vista Home Basic SP2 Build 6002.

    There is a yellow mark by the onboard graphics card in the device manager list.

    As far as I know, no software was installed. He doesn't recall installing anything.

    I have not yet tried to boot into safe mode. I will try that now... Yes, it seems to be working just fine in safe mode. I putzed around on it for a good five minutes and it didn't flicker at all, or give me that message.
     
  4. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    What I would try is to re-install the Chipset Driver from HERE and reboot, its very important to reboot as this allows the Windows OS to pick up the driver correctly.

    Then install the Graphics Drivers from HERE and reboot, then try the PC in normal mode again.
     
  5. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    I followed these two steps and rebooted into normal mode. A window opened that said something about downloading drivers for new hardware (or unrecognized hardware, something like that), and a message bubble was at the lower right saying that an incompatible display driver had been disabled. I didn't get to see either message clearly, as it almost immediately went to a black screen and then did a blue screen crash.

    I have rebooted into safe mode and await further instructions. :)
     
  6. ReviverSoft

    ReviverSoft Private E-2

  7. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    In Safe Mode, open Control Panel > Add/Remove (uninstall) up and uninstall the Nvidia drivers, can also check in Device Manager also that non are listed (if they are right click and uninstall), then reboot, this should install the basic Windows driver.

    Are you sure that the graphic card is the Nvidia 8400GS as it looks as if that one didnt come as standard on the Vostro 220 as far as I'm aware or was it added later on?

    Could you run this software below as written, should work ok in safe mode also.


     
  8. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    Yes, he added the 8400 GS later. It was a vid card out of my old computer, but it was better than his onboard graphics. He plans to upgrade at a later point.

    I will hop over to his and uninstall then run the utility.
     
  9. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    Okay, after I uninstalled the Nvidia driver from the add/remove list and rebooted into safe mode, a notification appeared at the bottom right. There were two, but I didn't notice the first one (sorry!) The second one said that the Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS drivers were installed successfully.

    I attached the log. Several areas in the main UI of Speccy said "Cannot initialise dll" or something like that. I tried running as admin just in case that would make a difference, but it didn't.
     

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  10. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

  11. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Can you now boot into normal mode ok, the Windows graphic driver will likely make the screen look terrible, but just need to see if you can get into normal mode.

    What I would do is to download and install Driver Sweeper (BUT do not run it yet) boot into Safe Mode (F8 at boot) and then run Driver Sweeper to remove any Nvidia Graphics and Physx driver if listed, this should remove any errant drivers.

    That log lists a PCI nvidia 8400GS device, but just to make sure nothing else is installed, could you run the below one and attach the log as you did before.

    Download and install Everest to find this info, at times a summary log of your PC can help, to do this

    Install Everest and run
    Click Report (top menu) > Report Wizard > Next
    Choose System Summary Only > Next
    Choose Plain Text > Finish and wait for report to generate
    Click Save to File and leave the File Name as Report, then click the Save as Type dropdown and choose Report files (*txt) and click Save (n.b. Save to desktop is best as easy place to find it, use Browse to locate desktop)
     
  12. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    I apologize for the long response time.

    I cannot boot into normal mode. It does the usual... black flickering screen, with the same notification from my original post.

    I opened Driver Sweeper and it has a long list of things for Nvidia, but I didn't want to remove them yet, since I'm not able to boot up in normal... wasn't sure if you still wanted me to.

    Here is the Everest log.
     

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  13. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    I'm sorry for the even longer reply! :(

    As your chipset in that PC is not Nvidia then I would remove all the Nvidia listings, then try and boot into normal mode.

    Indeed you do have an Nvidia 8400 GS card, so dont know why the driver didnt work, so try and remove as mentioned the nvidia software and we can add the driver back later on if and when you get into normal mode.


    Do you have the recovery disks for this PC?
     
  14. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    It's quite alright. I expected longer wait times around the holidays. :)

    I ran Driver Sweeper and removed all entries for Nvidia. When the prompt appeared asking if I wanted to reboot, I let it reboot into normal mode, and here I am. It's working just fine. No error messages, no flickering, etc. Of course the screen looks awful, lol. Just like it has in safe mode, all stretched and not filling the monitor.

    I'm sure we have the recovery disks somewhere, though I really wouldn't have the first idea WHERE they are. Probably in this giant desk of his somewhere.

    Can I ask, why is it that the screen looks awful right now? When he got this computer new from Dell, it just had the integrated card and it looked normal, it just wasn't good enough for gaming. Why didn't it go back to looking how it did before the Nvidia card was installed? Or is there a physical connection missing in there now?
     
  15. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Well the screen looks terrible as the driver used in normal mode is the same as the safe mode one, so it looks blocky and nasty!

    BUT the best thing is we are in normal mode with no crashes I hope?

    Now what I would try is to install the Nvidia driver from HERE and reboot once installed and hopefully I get a cookie from the jar if its fixed ;)


    *only asked about restore disks if we maybe needed to do a re-install but this looks now unlikely.
     
  16. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    :( No cookies! lol

    I downloaded and installed the Nvidia driver you linked and restarted when prompted. When it booted up, everything on the screen was GIGANTIC. I mean... freakin' huge. I heard the dreaded "bonk!" before the screen even loaded, and had a dialog box that said:

    Then it started flickering and giving me the same nvlddmkm message.

    I'm back in safe mode now.
     
  17. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    :( on cookie, damn I was hungry too!

    I would now use the driver sweeper app and remove the nvidia driver again and reboot and see if normal mode is back to working ok, then I will have to think of a driver you could use.
     
  18. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    Done. Back in normal mode and working just fine.
     
  19. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    I guess by "just fine" its the blocky graphics again?

    Try this and run Windows Update and see if it comes up with a graphics driver for you.
     
  20. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    Yep, the same ugly stuff. lol

    Windows Update lists:

    nVidia - Display, Other hardware - NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS

    Recommended Update

    nVidia Display, Other hardware
    software update released in May, 2011

    Published: 7/6/2011

    It has already downloaded and is ready to be installed.

    Go ahead and do that and reboot into normal mode?
     
  21. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    I couldn't install the update.

    Retried three times.
     
  22. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    In Device Manager list all items with a red X or yellow ! mark as it may hold clues, this is a weird driver issue as generally the chipset and graphics driver will fix this.

    Personally I would now given the length of time troubleshooting this be inclined to save off all important data and files off that PC and re-install Windows afresh.
     
  23. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    The 8400 GS is the only thing in the list with a yellow "!".

    I would actually rather take out the Nvidia card and go back to using the integrated than wipe the computer. The Nvidia isn't exactly great, lol, and since this isn't currently being used for gaming, the integrated should be just fine. All this PC is used for right now is me browsing the internet while he hogs mine.

    What would I need to do to make this happen?
     
  24. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Just as I think we already have the nvidia drivers uninstalled is to pull out the card and reboot, the default driver should install as most tend to do, its likely the Intel GFX chip on the motherboard as the other options are 3rd party add-ons as in nvidia or ati.

    Yes the integrated gfx is perfectly fine for most tasks including surfing the web etc
     
  25. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    Okay, I yanked that sucker out and booted up. Everything's working great. :) We'll just have to upgrade the video card if he ever wants to game on this again. We needed to anyway, that one was super old and had been through three PCs, lol.

    I really appreciate your help with this. Do you know what could have caused that to just randomly start happening? I'm afraid this stuff is a little bit over my head. Was it a hardware issue or a software issue?
     
  26. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    Oh, forgot to mention... when I pulled that card out, I could barely turn the fan on it with my finger. Had to push pretty hard. It used to be smoked around pretty heavily, and I can't remember the last time this computer's "guts" were cleaned. Could that be a factor?
     
  27. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Possibly a hardware issue and the card was failing thus caused the issue, to fully test this out you would need to install a different card to test, this would rule out the GFX card or motherboard as the issue or cause.

    Software is a possible but a nightmare to troubleshoot as you would really need to do a bare bones Windows OS install to test that 3rd party software was the cause.

    EDIT: as I noted your fan comment then yes if the fan was full of dust/fluff or broken then yes it would cause a failure as it would heat up to a point it would just stop and crash the PC.
     
  28. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    Tsk tsk. Looks like I'm going to have to go back on my vow to never again clean his desk, or deal with the expense of a lot of repairs and upgrades... lol.

    Thank you again for all of your help, it is very much appreciated.
     
  29. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    You and me both on fixing PCs, for others including family its an entry to oblivion!

    But how is the PC working now? I guess the on-board driver in the Intel one is working ok? just like to check up on the weird and wonderful issues in relation to drivers, not only helps you but me also.
     
  30. kravenscookiejar

    kravenscookiejar Private E-2

    Yes, it's been working just fine. Not as good, of course, but able to run everything in normal mode and watch YouTube, Hulu, etc...

    I did have a minor issue yesterday. The screen went black in several blocky areas and I got a message that was the same as my original one here, but with a different driver name... something with a g?

    But it recovered and hasn't happened since, so I'm hoping that was an isolated incident.
     
  31. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Yeah the Intel on-board GFX on older chipsets is not great, it does OK, but no where near as good as Nvidia or Ati or for that matter Matrox.

    I would if it blocky areas did happen on a online site for video, check and install latest Flash, Java and Silverlight plugins.
     

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