Documentaries On Real Jedi Masters (BBC, History, Discovery Channels)

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  1. lordmaynoth

    lordmaynoth Private First Class

    Rikky,

    My apologies, I guess I took it the wrong way.

    I am not really interested at all in psychokinesis, I've never met or heard of anyone developing real mental abilities like that just out of the blue, or being born with them. Every case I've heard heard of revolved around a neigong master who had at least 20 years of daily training.

    If the explanations given by masters like Chang are to be believed what they are doing is storing and releasing a physical force not moving things with their minds. However if you want to call it pk and lump it in with that there is some research in that field also.


    The researchers used true random number generators, and true random event generators. They had participants to try influence the outcomes of many thousands of random events per second, like coin flips or averages of random numbers. What they found was statistically impressive.



    Examining psychokinesis: the interaction of human intention with random number generators--a meta-analysis.

    Bösch H, Steinkamp F, Boller E.

    Full Article: http://www.ebo.de/publikationen/pk_ma.pdf

    Abstract: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16822162

    1: Psychol Bull. 2006 Jul;132(4):497-523.Click here to read Links

    Comment in:
    Psychol Bull. 2006 Jul;132(4):524-8; discussion 533-7.
    Psychol Bull. 2006 Jul;132(4):529-32; discussion 533-7.

    Examining psychokinesis: the interaction of human intention with random number generators--a meta-analysis.
    Bösch H, Steinkamp F, Boller E.

    Department of Evaluation Research in Complementary Medicine, University Hospital Freiburg, Freiburg, Germany. holger.boesch@uniklinik-freiburg.de

    Séance-room and other large-scale psychokinetic phenomena have fascinated humankind for decades. Experimental research has reduced these phenomena to attempts to influence (a) the fall of dice and, later, (b) the output of random number generators (RNGs). The meta-analysis combined 380 studies that assessed whether RNG output correlated with human intention and found a significant but very small overall effect size. The study effect sizes were strongly and inversely related to sample size and were extremely heterogeneous. A Monte Carlo simulation revealed that the small effect size, the relation between sample size and effect size, and the extreme effect size heterogeneity found could in principle be a result of publication bias. Copyright (c) 2006 APA, all rights reserved.











    Reexamining psychokinesis: comment on Bösch, Steinkamp, and Boller (2006).

    Radin D, Nelson R, Dobyns Y, Houtkooper J.


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16822164

    1: Psychol Bull. 2006 Jul;132(4):529-32; discussion 533-7.Click here to read Links

    Comment on:
    Psychol Bull. 2006 Jul;132(4):497-523.



    Consciousness Research Laboratory, Institute of Noetic Sciences, Petaluma, CA 94952, USA. deanradin@noetic.org

    H. Bösch, F. Steinkamp, and E. Boller's review of the evidence for psychokinesis confirms many of the authors' earlier findings. The authors agree with Bösch et al. that existing studies provide statistical evidence for psychokinesis, that the evidence is generally of high methodological quality, and that effect sizes are distributed heterogeneously. Bösch et al. postulated the heterogeneity is attributable to selective reporting and thus that psychokinesis is "not proven." However, Bösch et al. assumed that effect size is entirely independent of sample size. For these experiments, this assumption is incorrect; it also guarantees heterogeneity. The authors maintain that selective reporting is an implausible explanation for the observed data and hence that these studies provide evidence for a genuine psychokinetic effect. Copyright (c) 2006 APA, all rights reserved.













    An interesting journal of published studies on micro pk.
    http://emergentmind.org/journal.htm
     
  2. lordmaynoth

    lordmaynoth Private First Class

    Seems have similar findings in Austria to what they do in Taiwan.


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11474806



    Effects of QiGong on brain function.

    1: Neurol Res. 2001 Jul;23(5):501-5.

    Litscher G, Wenzel G, Niederwieser G, Schwarz G.

    Biomedical Engineering Unit, Department of Anesthesiology and Critical Care, University of Graz, Auenbruggerplatz 29, A-8036 Graz, Austria. gerhard.litscher@kfunigraz.ac.at

    QiGong is an ancient and widely practiced Chinese meditation exercise. We studied the effects of QiGong on brain function with modern neuromonitoring tools in two subjects. In a male QiGong master (extremely trained practitioner), the technique induced reproducible changes in transcranial Doppler sonography, EEG, stimulus-induced 40 Hz oscillations, and near-infrared spectroscopy findings. Similar effects were seen after the application of multimodal stimuli and when the master concentrated on intense imagined stimuli (e.g. 22.2% increase in mean blood flow velocity (vm) in the posterior cerebral artery, and a simultaneous 23.1% decrease of vm in the middle cerebral artery). Similar effects were seen in the female subject. Neuromonitoring during QiGong appears able to objectify accompanied cerebral modulations surrounding this old Chinese meditation exercise.
     
  3. esszeeeye

    esszeeeye Private E-2

    Very interesting thread,guys,

    My 2 cents....Ok,I'm from the Uk,but have lived in Asia for 10+ years - I have no video tapes,etc to offer,but about 5 years ago ,was offered a plate of broken glass to eat,along with some other visitors of a teacher.
    No cuts, - I bit down hard and tried to chew,seemed to "melt" but....Damm !
    I broke a molar !!

    From the little I know about traditional Chinese medicine by getting sick and finding some really off-the-wall help,energy ,or "Chi" can be strengthened to the point it can leave the body,be directed - weird things happen all the time,over here,and I've seen more than a few,but the attitude is,like,
    so what ?

    BTW,many of these practitioners of Chi Gong,etc,also work as healers.
    Science is great,but experience proved to me," there are more things in heaven and earth,etc,etc,..."
    Yeah,and I still need Major geeks to fix my laptop...:major
     
  4. lordmaynoth

    lordmaynoth Private First Class

    I am a laptop guru I might be able to help what's wrong with your laptop?
     

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