Finding Info For Hp Pavillion For An Upgrade Has Been Impossible

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by rwrohrs, Jul 9, 2019.

  1. rwrohrs

    rwrohrs Private E-2

    I'm trying to upgrade an hp all in one pavillion model number 24-b223w running windows 10 with an m.2 ssd. It has a 7200 rpm hard drive in it. I want to migrate the operating system to it so it will run faster and I don't want to uninstall the hard drive so it can have 2 drives. The specs list an m.2 slot for it for an ssd.

    HP sales could not give me an answer, mentioned that they had an nvme but the sales person said that my model was not listed as compatible.

    Crucial insisted that none of their nvme models were compatible. They would not say on their sata III m.2s (if they have them) A friend found an almost similar model that took Sata III. Then Best Buy insisted that an nvme model would work. I think the person just looked up "hp all in one pavillion."

    The manuals at Hp are very poorly documented. Very disgusted with HP.
     
  2. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Unfortunately, all in one PCs are normally pretty much dead enders as far as upgrades go.

    Here is the link for specs of your system board:

    https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05348540

    You will have to crack it open to see which options the board has. If you only have an M.2 slot with a WiFi card already installed, there's a good chance that slot will not be compatible with an SSD. If you have a pair of M.2 slots and one is already populated with a WiFi card, then that is the one which will accept an SSD. Also, there is no guarantee that this board will be able to boot from that M.2 slot. Not every system board can.

    You would probably be better off upgrading that 7200 RPM drive to an SSD.
     
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  3. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I agree. This is because AiO PCs are basically notebook computers integrated with large desktop monitors. And notebooks are notorious for limited (if any) upgrade capabilities. :(
    I would trust Crucial on that.

    This shows the M.2 interface is used for networking.

    HP Specs does indicate there is "One M2. socket for SSD", but it also says that right above that this disclaimer: "NOTE: The configuration might vary depending on your model."

    So again, I agree with the mekanic and you are going to have to verify (likely through visual inspection) what you have. You may be out of luck here.
     
  4. risk_reversal

    risk_reversal MajorGeek

    Agreed. The easiest solution is to go for an SATA SSD which will also benefit from lower heat.

    Then use the current mechanical HDD as an external backup
     
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  5. Mister Krinkle

    Mister Krinkle Private First Class

    HP Pavilion 24-b223w All-in-One Desktop PC

    Product Specifications
    https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05492015

    Palau-UF Motherboard Specifications
    https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05348540

    • Intel 7x00T series processors
    • H170 chipset
    • Two SO-DIMM slots
    It's a mix of desktop and laptop parts on a proprietary motherboard.

    Expansion slots
    • One M.2 socket for WLAN
    • One M2. socket for SSD
    NOTE: The configuration might vary depending on your model.

    I hate HP.... The right M.2 slot is used for laptop-style WiFi card. The left slot is used for the SSD. You need to open your AiO and visually confirm that the left M.2 slot is present. I've seen pictures of this motherboard that didn't have the left slot, just the solder pad where it would be attached.


    I found this forum post in a Google search:

    My HP pavilion all-in-one a210t uses the same motherboard, Palau-UF, as above. And I have found that other products with the same motherboard HP Pavilion 27-a261ur and HP Pavilion All-in-One - 27-a259ng have SSD 128GB M2 SATA3, part number: 901161-800

    Upgrade Options for your HP Pavilion 24-b223w All-in-One Desktop
    https://www.drivesolutions.com/cgi/...&kind=hp-dt&pos=0&type=itemid&itemid=hpdt2564

    DriveSolutions says that it will take an M.2 2280 SATA III SSD. That can't be right. Most M.2 WiFi cards are 2230 (30mm long). The 2280 is 80mm long, and just from eyeballing the motherboard's picture, I can tell that the SSD slot's lock-down screw mount isn't that far from the socket. Based on the picture, I'd say that the SSD slot is sized for a 2242 drive. If you open the AiO and the left M.2 slot is present, take a ruler and measure the distance from the socket to the screw mount.

    I found several M.2 2242 SSDs on NewEgg. Most of them are off-brands that I've never heard of. This one has a recognizable brand name:

    Transcend MTS400 M.2 2242 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) TS256GMTS400
    $119.99
    https://www.newegg.com/transcend-mts400-256gb/p/N82E16820510042

    That's expensive for a mere 256 gigs. If you change to the 2.5" form factor, you can get a Crucial MX500 1TB SSD for $110.
     

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