Ghost 2

As most of the members here are aware, my dad in law died in April. The thing is (this is no spoof) my mother in law is now being woken up by him when she is asleep.
On Wednesday night, before midnight, she was asleep when she felt somebody rocking her. Now, she had a habit of sleeping facing Brian before he was really ill, so he could rock her and call her name to wake her if he needed anything. Anyhoo, she was woken by this rocking and heard Brian say, "Liz". Of course she got the shock of her life, she turned and saw no one there, got up, stayed up and slept on the couch a bit later. She admits she was scared and swears she was wide awake as she heard Brian say her name after she was awakened by the rocking. She is and always has been a very light sleeper.
Last night she slept facing the way she did when Brian was alive, but with her hands tucked into her armpits (a trait of hers). She feels the rocking again, and feels a hand trying to pull her hand from where it was (maybe trying to hold her hand?) She opens her eyes, sees Brian, smiles at him and watches him evaporate in front of her eyes. She wasn't scared this time, and says she was freezing, even though it was balmy, about 70% humidity.
My daughter, Amy thought she saw him standing outside our front gate about a week ago, out the corner of her eye. She looked straight at the same point, directly this time, and the figure was gone. Difficult, seeing as the gate is on a main road. Anyone else heard of this kind of thing occurring? I'm kinda open minded to this type of thing, afterlife and all that, but I was teetering on the very edge of becoming a sceptic (about everything otherworldly) until this happened.

 

Hi JOTS i'm one of the biggest sceptics, but quite a few tear ago now my wife's great aunt died and my wife was really upset about it all as her aunt had more or less brought her up from the age of about 3yr old until 17yr old, anyhoo the night after she died we were at home sadly wife too upset to talk so we went to bed early, the next day we where going shopping and just before we went out of the house i ran upstairs to to get something from the bedroom, when i came back down i said to my wife that i had gotten a smell of her aunts perfume from her side of the bed as i walked past it, my wife immediatly burst into tears, i tried to console her and she told me that through the night she had felt someone sit on her side of the bed, too frightened to open her eyes she laid completely still, then she felt a kiss on the side of her cheek and her aunts voice say " goonight darling ", she then opened her eyesand swears she seen her aunt getting up from the bed and walk into what she can only describe as a misty cloud !

My wife has always said that when a loved one dies they will only pass over when they have said goodbye to the one they loved if they never got chance just before !

 

Hi JOTS
Peoples love for one another hangs around for a long time

 

I was in the bathroom, middle of the night and my grandmother came to mind out of no where, she had passed a couple years before. I can't explain what exactly I was experiencing but it got stronger and stronger to the point I asked her, "oh god don't appear" I headed back to bed fast as I could.
The next evening my aunt called me to say my mother was sounding strange on the phone and now her line was busy. Turned out she had a stroke. My grandmother worried about her daughters especially my mother. It took me a long time to make the connection.

The house I live n now, one of our cats would not pass the door frame until I told whoever was here to please leave, the cat came right in. It would get cold in the room too. I thought that more then a coincidence being it had gone on for like a year.

It seems like more things are taking place or people are more willing to talk about it.

 

That makes perfect sense. He died alone.

 

Do some EVP's

 

Its common for your brain to manifest the image of a loved one after they have died,its your brains response to the chemical imbalance brought about by the decreased levels of hormones that were stimulated by your loved ones,serotonin,dopamine ect. the happiness and reward centres of the brain,your brain has also become used to a perceived pattern of stimulation for example people who work on production lines still perceive still objects and the world moving along causing unbalance and hallucinations as the brain has become used to the world behaving this way.

If you add that to the known confusions brought about by semi conciousness then its all very explainable without resorting to the paranormal.

 

That makes sense, Rikky, if you know the person has already passed. But what about when someone passes in the middle of the night, and you are not told until later? Days later? That is really weird, to see them, and talk to them, and then find out that that 'person' had passed away. You call it "hallucinations", nah, I think Rustyjack nailed it here:

That explains a LOT. Before you ask, no, I don't need a shrink. :-D I have had experienced these phenomenas myself, too.

Yes, JOTS, I think Rustyjack has nailed it, and everything will be OK.

 

I am up for anything and watch things but I rather "see to believe" Also Ive been told by many doctors and read about/seen that when someone passes away it isn't weird at all to see them doing something around the house. Many times people will see them doing things they did before they died(like you said rocking her in bed) it is what they both did and when someone pass they seem to believe/think they see the same thing happening now. Same thing for people thinking they see someone doing what they always did (may it been in the chair drinking a beer all the time) and now ever so often they see him drinking a beer in the chair... they say its normal and its just how many react to losing a love one.

 

None of my family members have ever said goodbye to me when they have died,none of my family have ever mentioned a family member saying goodbye as they have died.

Has every single one of your family members supernaturally said goodbye to you before they died?If not how many have?

I'm all for an afterlife,I want it more than I can put into words but we have to be careful not to let our desire for an afterlife cloud our judgement ,if its real it's real BUT if we're deluding ourselves for emotional comfort by believing in an afterlife then life has more value than can be EVER put into words.

And at that I think I'm out.....

 

Oh, now Rikky, don't run off yet! I just happened to experience something on the same line as JOTS wife did.

Only, I talked to this person, and yeah, he said good bye. I invited him in for coffee, (he always stopped in for a cup of mud!) and he just said no, which was not like him. He said didn't have time. He had to "go". I didn't think anything of it, at the time.

Well, it was a few days LATER I found out he had died. Yeah, that was weird. I think to each his own, tho. Either you believe, or you don't. No biggie either way . You are entitled to your own ideals and beliefs, we won't bite ya

 

What you've stated makes common and logical sense, when looked at in that perspective.

However, I can give two examples which cannot relate to your above arguments, that I believe were true paranormal experiences, confirmed by a second person at the time when looking at houses and not knowing anything of their past/current residents:

1. Lovely house and colourful garden, well lit interior, its neatness was reflective of an old couple with family photos and bric a brac about...However moving around, the house seemed to heave and sigh with sadness, making me feel rather heavy of heart. On two occasions, when walking out of a room, I was surprised to see a sweet little old lady walking into a room I had earlier walked out of - she would stop briefly, give what seemed a small polite smile and nod at me before stepping out of view.
   
   Nice as the house was, it felt melancholy and I had to go outside. My companion walked out shortly after me and while I was silently thinking of how I felt, my companion, who hadn't see the old lady inside, expressed the exact feelings. I asked the Realtor who the old lady was, and to our surprise, he said the house was empty.
   
   Alarmed, the realtor went back inside and we followed after him, looking for this lady...while searching, I spied a photo of an old couple on the mantelpiece - it had the old lady I saw...(you've probably guessed it).
   
   Pointing at it, I identified the old lady to the realtor, who after staring at the couple's photo said it was of the old man selling the house, and the woman was his wife who died two weeks earlier.
   
   
2. Another day, another house. My companion tells me someone is wandering about in the front room, and not wanting to disturb the person who just stared back without responding, the room was left unchecked. I walk back to check out the room and spot an old gentleman sitting in the corner by the unlit fireplace. I apologise for disturbing him and comment that the fireplace must warm up such a cold room.
   
   Getting only a strange stare in response, I excuse myself, and while standing in the room's doorway, I quietly ask the realtor who is standing a few feet away, who the gentleman is. The realtor immediately walks past me into the room, shaking his head saying, "no one lives here." He turns back to me saying, "there's no one in here!" Looking over his shoulder at the fireplace, and around the room, I can only agree.
   
   Puzzled, I question if this is a deceased estate...it was...an old man had lived and died there alone.

Make of that what you will, but given the confirmations at the time, those sightings can only be described as "paranormal".

 

This thread gives me chills.. seriously.

Thanks.

 

Me too, have goose bumps. It is a relief that people are more open to share their experiences.

 

your experiences all seem rather benign compared to mine i have several accounts from personal/family experience:
1. several years ago (before we moved house) my dad was home alone in the week running up to christmas - everyone else was out christmas shopping. he was sat drinking a cup of coffee, in the living room when all of a sudden, the christmas tree fell over. none of the windows were open and nothing else fell over, it seemed the only explanation was that it had been pushed... but by who?

2. in the same house, a few years before, my parents were in the kitchen having made tea/coffee when the spoon goes from being still in the mug, to moving around the edge several times as if it were being stirred by someone, but no one was there :confused

3. a different house, a different time, we were staying with my aunt for a couple of days and my mum felt a pressure on her back everytime she went down the stairs. My aunt said she had felt this too, a few months before (she hadn't lived there long) and that she was certain that there was a spirit of some form pushing her down the stairs. anyway, we thought nothing of it, and no one came to any harm. about a week after we left, we received a phone call from this aunt, and she was sounding rather shaken. it turns out that she had fallen down the stairs and landed on her wrist and broken it. she was certain that there was a hand on her back that caused her to fall - weird because she lives alone...

 

A family member was in bed with his wife in the dark but with enough light to see a woman standing in the room nearby watching them. He yelled "WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT?!!" and the woman turned then walked away and disappeared into nothing. He had no idea who it would be. Nothing ever happened again.

I was in a place once when suddenly I felt a very cold breeze rush by my back that moved my shirt. There is no logical reason why that would have happened. The room was warm because it was summer and the ac had been off a few minutes where the air was still. There was no way someone could have ran by or thrown something behind me because there were obstacles there and I heard no sound. It startled me and freaked me out to say the least. I told everyone else there about it and one person said it had happened to them before too.

 

You have some interesting stories...everyone has a variety of experiences, some too hard to believe. I'm happy to recount those personal ones of mine that are "benign".

Have heard of some interesting ones from friends...with witnesses to confirm events...and one particularly nasty one that took some doing to get rid of:

Years back, some friends got into séances, often using a Ouija board. Everyone thought it was a great bit of fun, and often a large group would attend at the same apartment...many as bystanders to watch only. On this particular night, it appears they attracted a rather nasty sort of "spirit" who singled out a bystander, a twin sister of a participant.

This young bystander was told by this "spirit" to remove the Cross from around her neck. Taken as a joke, she snortled and ignored the demand. Next instant, she was savagely pushed through a glass door she was leaning against and the chain ripped off her neck...all this was done by an unseen presence.

She was badly cut and shaken...taken to hospital for stiches. Next evening when I saw her and others who were at the place that evening, I had to believe the story...she and her sister both decided never to return to those gatherings.

Some die hards continued with a now reduced number...and whatever they had attracted now followed the initiator...causing all sorts of unpleasantness...

I'm yet to be convinced that Ouija board are harmless...people often don't realise that it may be just another "portal" for unknowns...and for some of the worst type.

LS

 

I heard a medium say using a Ouija board was like inviting a stranger into your home. Sounds as if that was a particularly nasty stranger LS.

 

My grandad, a spiritualist, warned all of his kids and grandkids about the dangers of ouija boards. He once said that was how Pazuzu got his starring role in The Exorcist and that should be a stark enough warning for anybody.
Now I warn my kids about them. Good as a discussion topic, though.

 

You said it.

"It" had attached itself to our friend...we worried at her stories and of her place being ransacked, things being thrown at her whenever she tried to "remove" it. Moving places made no difference, because it simply followed her. Consequently, no one wanted to live with her, because they also were being attacked.

One night at a club we all frequented, we were all in the Ladies Room, talking about our friend's experiences, when she walked in. The Room was long with a full wall of mirrors on one side above a long benchtop containing a series of sinks, which we were all away from and near the opposite wall.

While we were talking to her of possible solutions, there suddenly was furious banging sounds from the middle of the long benchtop. It was so violent, it caused items to jump off it. Our friend's face went ashen. "It" was making itself known to us.

We lost touch with our friend for some months with her constant moves...When she returned, we found her changed (in a good way), after those experiences. She finally got rid of whatever it was and refused to speak of it.

People really shouldn't mess with things they don't fully understand...it always appears like fun to begin with.

 

I quite believe your stories as actual events. It sounds like some common stories where those who have gone before us, don't like to see their loved ones upset, so it is as though they linger to help them through the mourning period. Almost a way of saying that they are still there for us.

Personally, I believe those that leave us behind, are always there looking after us, guiding us. I reckon my dad (died when I was sixteen) is always there for me, advising me at critical times, helping me towards solutions. I feel a calmness whenever this happens, as though he is right there behind me, quietly whispering in my ear. And I am grateful.