Hardware Device For Recording Streaming Video

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by secretcodebreaker, Oct 29, 2018.

  1. secretcodebreaker

    secretcodebreaker Specialist

    Since this is not a PC issue I didn't search in Software. I searched in Hardware and didn't find a post that addressed my question.
    I receive (and view on my flat screen TV) streaming video via my Wi-Fi - Roku 1 - video input to either a 3 wire RCA or HDMI connection.
    My Internet provider charges me for my capacity usage ($/Gb).
    So, I have to pay every time I watch a streamed video from Netflix, Amazon Prime, Acorn, BritBox, etc.
    I would like to be able to record, on my DVD recorder some of these programs so I don't have to pay again to watch them again.
    Is there a hardware device (black box) that I could install that would split the video stream and send one signal to my flat panel TV and the other signal (in a format) that my DVD recorder could record on a blank DVD+R?
    I have a DirecTV (satellite) receiver/recorder that outputs to my flat panel TV and my DVD recorder so I am able to record those TV programs.
    I would like to do the same with the stream video programs.
    My understanding is that when Netflix first started streaming video, it was a simple matter to just hook-up a VCR or DVD recorder and capture the video, but (ah...the big but) since then all the video streaming services have modified the output to prevent (block) recording.
    I know there have been software "work-arounds" for PCs that address this hurdle and I'm hoping that is also the case for a hardware based solution.
    Thanks for any help, suggestions.
     
  2. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek

    The HDMI signal is protected by HDCP.
     
  3. Philipp

    Philipp Administrator Staff Member

  4. secretcodebreaker

    secretcodebreaker Specialist

    I don't know that I would need a converter. The ROKO 1 was manufactured back when HDMI was relatively new and it has to outputs. I'm using the HDMI socket output, but there is also a set of RCA 3 wire outputs on the unit.
    The issue is NOT whether the ROKU's RCA3 wire output will drive a flat panel TV.
    The issue is being able to split that output and send one side of the split to a DVD recorder, which has a RCA 3 wire input.
    I think I might try sending the ROKU RCA 3 wire to the DVD RCA 3 wire input and then connect the RCA 3 wire output to the flat panel TV which has a RCA 3 wire input set and eliminate the HTML connection altogether.
    I suspect that it won't work because Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc. have change the video stream format to accomplish what HDCP does to prevent copying.
     
  5. secretcodebreaker

    secretcodebreaker Specialist

    I tried it -
    I think I might try sending the ROKU RCA 3 wire to the DVD RCA 3 wire input and then connect the RCA 3 wire output to the flat panel TV which has a RCA 3 wire input set and eliminate the HTML connection altogether.
    I suspect that it won't work because Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc. have change the video stream format to accomplish what HDCP does to prevent copying.

    Interesting it's not the Ruko 1 that is preventing the copy. When I try to copy the stream (not the header) from Netflix. Amazon Prime, Acorn, BritBox I get an error message telling me this video can't be copied.

    When I switch to the FREE movie channels (Roku being one of them) it records the movie, no problem.

    The software (there seem to be a number of different ones for sale) for copying a stream video via your PC they seem to take the approach of copying what is "on the screen" rather than the input to the display.

    I'd like to get a "blck box" that does the same. Records what is on the flat panel TV.

    Incidentally (and I don't want to turn this thread into a discussion of "copy rights") it has been determined by the copy right adjudicators that it is permissible for an individual to make a single copy (back-up) of copy righted content for their own use (not be to sold).

    iTunes allows this (one copy) and IMO other should do that also. Just my opinion.

    Thanks to all for giving this a shot.

    Some days you get the bear and some days the bear gets you. :)
     
  6. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Back in the day, descrambler tubes were the way to go on a set top box. Either that, or a "hot" cable box.

    The only way to capture protected video (or audio) is via a descrambled output signal.
     
  7. secretcodebreaker

    secretcodebreaker Specialist

    So, I need a "black box" that has and input connection from Roku, unscrambles and produces an output signal and sends it to a recorder and then to the flat panel display.

    Another thought - Use a software package to create a copy of the video on one of my PC's hard drives and then burn a DVD+R of that file giving me a copy that I can play on my DVD player connected to the flat screen TV.

    Can anyone recommend a reliable, easy to use, software program (Win7) that I could use to create a copy of a video stream?

    Thanks,
     
  8. Just Playin

    Just Playin MajorGeek


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